car_jack_streets_1A few notable applications have dropped to free this weekend, while we find one developer increasing his price in response to the constant downward drop in game pricing.

Free

  • Car Jack Streets ($2.99 -> Free) - A top down Grand Theft Auto-alike that was well received back in April. The game has since seen increasing competition with Gameloft's 3D Gangstar as well as the upcoming official Grand Theft Auto from Rockstar. Still, this top-down sandbox game had its fans and is certainly worth a download.
  • Peter und Vlad ($1.99 -> Free) - Yet another line-drawing game, but this time your job is to herd your sheep to safety to avoid an out-of-control weather machine. The game is well done, though we didn't find the herding gameplay as compelling as the other line-drawing games.
  • Roadkill Cafe ($0.99 -> Free) - Can you successfully dodge traffic while picking up roadkill? A humorous game that has its fans. Pick it up for free this weekend.

494977_4$39.99

Meanwhile, Schiau Studios has taken this weekend to raise the price of their game Alchemize from $2.99 to $39.99 in protest of ongoing complaints about game pricing. The $39.99 price makes it the most expensive iPhone game in the App Store.

  • Alchemize ($2.99 -> $39.99) - A different kind of matching puzzler that we looked at in September. While the game resembles a Match-3 puzzler, the gameplay actually revolves around a progressive discovery of new elements.

The move has generated a lively discussion in our forums.

  • popejohn

    $47.99AU ?? Forget that, next please..

    • Refugee P

      Failboat just arrived.. all aboard!!

  • popejohn

    $47.99AU ?? Forget that, next please..

    • Refugee P

      Failboat just arrived.. all aboard!!

  • EatKodosDaily

    I'll be curious to see how that price jack changes their revenues.

    How many people will pick it up simply because it's the most expensive game on the app store?

    I mean, haven't most developers found they make the same revenue regardless of price? Either 1000 people will download your game at $10 or 10000 will at $1? (I don't mean all games do that, but I mean that a game of a certain quality will make the same revenue regardless of price.)

  • EatKodosDaily

    I'll be curious to see how that price jack changes their revenues.

    How many people will pick it up simply because it's the most expensive game on the app store?

    I mean, haven't most developers found they make the same revenue regardless of price? Either 1000 people will download your game at $10 or 10000 will at $1? (I don't mean all games do that, but I mean that a game of a certain quality will make the same revenue regardless of price.)

  • asolja

    What a curious way to protest about game pricing,Im not quite sure as to what they are protesting about,"is the price to low possibly".If this is the case perhaps they should pitch their price at what they think is fair and leave it to the consumer.Problem solved.In the meantime I will give this company a wide berth until they get their act together.

  • asolja

    What a curious way to protest about game pricing,Im not quite sure as to what they are protesting about,"is the price to low possibly".If this is the case perhaps they should pitch their price at what they think is fair and leave it to the consumer.Problem solved.In the meantime I will give this company a wide berth until they get their act together.

  • cosmat

    I will buy one copy of this game at this high price just to stand up also from the whiners. This is the best ideeeeeeeeaaaaaa. Thumb up for the Schiau Studios.

    • Ape lover

      so we got a winner, sucker #1. prize will be free candy via itunes

      • nerd

        perhaps he better picks up his brain from the floor

    • Goulash

      sarcasm ftw

  • cosmat

    I will buy one copy of this game at this high price just to stand up also from the whiners. This is the best ideeeeeeeeaaaaaa. Thumb up for the Schiau Studios.

    • Ape lover

      so we got a winner, sucker #1. prize will be free candy via itunes

      • nerd

        perhaps he better picks up his brain from the floor

    • Goulash

      sarcasm ftw

  • johnphone

    PLEASE TA.com let this post FIRST for the entire protest. THIS IS THE BEST POST IN YEARS. Schiau Studios should deserve an Oscar for this. They are losing sales to speak for all the indie devs out there. If you were in the US I would come and shake you hand.

    • Mike

      Like hell! They aren't speaking for me! They created their own problem with their stupid price changes. This is pathetic and will only hurt them. Bad move.

  • johnphone

    PLEASE TA.com let this post FIRST for the entire protest. THIS IS THE BEST POST IN YEARS. Schiau Studios should deserve an Oscar for this. They are losing sales to speak for all the indie devs out there. If you were in the US I would come and shake you hand.

    • Mike

      Like hell! They aren't speaking for me! They created their own problem with their stupid price changes. This is pathetic and will only hurt them. Bad move.

  • semosh

    Not only Obama should receive NOBEL... Schiau Studios can get one from my part.

  • semosh

    Not only Obama should receive NOBEL... Schiau Studios can get one from my part.

  • Warzin

    It's just a cheap way of advertising via the news vendors. And, of course, will change absolutely nothing, for them or anyone else. Why complain when you should adapt to the demands of the unique marketplace the app store has created. Cheap games that are bought on the spur of the moment. So most are pretty bad but you get a few gems. That's what sites like this are for; to find the stuff at the top of the heap.

  • Warzin

    It's just a cheap way of advertising via the news vendors. And, of course, will change absolutely nothing, for them or anyone else. Why complain when you should adapt to the demands of the unique marketplace the app store has created. Cheap games that are bought on the spur of the moment. So most are pretty bad but you get a few gems. That's what sites like this are for; to find the stuff at the top of the heap.

  • http://www.99games.in 99Games

    Whoa, that's a lot of freebies. 99Games has made their correspondence chess game 'Chess Elite' free this weekend as well. :)
    Around 350 online games in progress in our online community right now. Since it has an Elo rating system to rate the relative skills of players, things are competitive in the community.

    Chess Enthusiasts do make the best of this one time offer.

    Cheers!!!

  • http://www.99games.in 99Games

    Whoa, that's a lot of freebies. 99Games has made their correspondence chess game 'Chess Elite' free this weekend as well. :)
    Around 350 online games in progress in our online community right now. Since it has an Elo rating system to rate the relative skills of players, things are competitive in the community.

    Chess Enthusiasts do make the best of this one time offer.

    Cheers!!!

  • devile

    I lure people to take this stand as a positive one.... I am all fed up with 99c apps... tooooooooo many... please apple make a special category for the 99c apps.

    • Goulash

      they already made it, it's called search

      • jordanhooks

        search... LOL

  • devile

    I lure people to take this stand as a positive one.... I am all fed up with 99c apps... tooooooooo many... please apple make a special category for the 99c apps.

    • Goulash

      they already made it, it's called search

      • jordanhooks

        search... LOL

  • jordanhooks

    Thank you TA for this great post about Alchemize. BEST POST EVER on all the forums I've stumble upon in the last 10 years. Schiau Studios rulzzzzzzz

  • jordanhooks

    Thank you TA for this great post about Alchemize. BEST POST EVER on all the forums I've stumble upon in the last 10 years. Schiau Studios rulzzzzzzz

  • Kita

    Why does that game keep getting more attention on the front page? People have a right to their opinions about it and good developers take notice without getting mad and NOT retaliate. This is just a pathetic attempt for them to try to stay relevant and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they were astroturfing the forums praising the game....

  • Kita

    Why does that game keep getting more attention on the front page? People have a right to their opinions about it and good developers take notice without getting mad and NOT retaliate. This is just a pathetic attempt for them to try to stay relevant and I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they were astroturfing the forums praising the game....

  • dumas1000

    Just remember, you get what you pay for. Anyone who doesnt want to pay more than .99 for their games or would rather wait to poach them for free, anyone who complains about paying 2.99 for a game, or 9.99 for a game, for that matter, you get what you pay for. While PSP owner are busy playing big-boy games, you're all stuck with fart games and match-3 games, and "retro"-lesque that look like they belong on the Atari 2600 and simple geometry war clones, games with no storylines, no voice-overs, no cut-scenes, no campaign mode, games with thirty minutes of gameplay, like Galactic Gunner, or short, so-called episodic games where the other "episodes" never get made (Hysteria Project). And you can forget about ever seeing legitimate verisions of Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, Devil May Cry, Mass Effect, God of War, Gran Turismo, Call Of Duty, Midnight Club, Burnout, Metal Gear Solid (A none duck-hunt edition), etc. These are $30.00 games and there is no reason to believe that anyone would owns an idevice would pay the price it would cost for console devs to turn a profit on such high caliber games, considering the production cost of said games.

    • http://www.mentation.nl/thanatist/ Thaurin

      And still, we've seen plenty of proper ports that cost a quarter of the original's price. I'm not saying I'm on one side or the other, but saying that the iPhone does not have full games is telling a lie. True, the other platforms are ahead; surely, they should as they are more dedicated to gaming.

  • dumas1000

    Just remember, you get what you pay for. Anyone who doesnt want to pay more than .99 for their games or would rather wait to poach them for free, anyone who complains about paying 2.99 for a game, or 9.99 for a game, for that matter, you get what you pay for. While PSP owner are busy playing big-boy games, you're all stuck with fart games and match-3 games, and "retro"-lesque that look like they belong on the Atari 2600 and simple geometry war clones, games with no storylines, no voice-overs, no cut-scenes, no campaign mode, games with thirty minutes of gameplay, like Galactic Gunner, or short, so-called episodic games where the other "episodes" never get made (Hysteria Project). And you can forget about ever seeing legitimate verisions of Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, Devil May Cry, Mass Effect, God of War, Gran Turismo, Call Of Duty, Midnight Club, Burnout, Metal Gear Solid (A none duck-hunt edition), etc. These are $30.00 games and there is no reason to believe that anyone would owns an idevice would pay the price it would cost for console devs to turn a profit on such high caliber games, considering the production cost of said games.

    • http://www.mentation.nl/thanatist/ Thaurin

      And still, we've seen plenty of proper ports that cost a quarter of the original's price. I'm not saying I'm on one side or the other, but saying that the iPhone does not have full games is telling a lie. True, the other platforms are ahead; surely, they should as they are more dedicated to gaming.

  • Chad

    This is just a stupid attempt to gain publicity. The game itself is terrible (tried it before when it wasn't dumbed priced like this), and there were idiots who bought the $999 app that did NOTHING so this could just be an attempt like this.

    Indie developers who make good games are ballin (granted they need to find someone who can market the game well, otherwise they're rolling the dice that word of mouth will get out fast enough before they get buried by more fart apps). These guys are just mad that they can't rake it in with their terrible program.

    • matthhhew

      I am a developer and I salute Schiau Studios for stepping up for all of us (consumers, devs, media and even Apple)... I see that you didn't get the idea: they only wanted people not to say "lower the game price"... if you want it you buy it... if not... pass. That simple. And this is a good game. I will buy it for certain after the protest.

      The App Store price war was considered Tabu. Now it is not.

  • Chad

    This is just a stupid attempt to gain publicity. The game itself is terrible (tried it before when it wasn't dumbed priced like this), and there were idiots who bought the $999 app that did NOTHING so this could just be an attempt like this.

    Indie developers who make good games are ballin (granted they need to find someone who can market the game well, otherwise they're rolling the dice that word of mouth will get out fast enough before they get buried by more fart apps). These guys are just mad that they can't rake it in with their terrible program.

    • matthhhew

      I am a developer and I salute Schiau Studios for stepping up for all of us (consumers, devs, media and even Apple)... I see that you didn't get the idea: they only wanted people not to say "lower the game price"... if you want it you buy it... if not... pass. That simple. And this is a good game. I will buy it for certain after the protest.

      The App Store price war was considered Tabu. Now it is not.

  • Augie

    The App Store has brought gaming to a fun and affordable level. People need to stop complaining about prices so much. I personally think nintendo and psp prices are too steep for the platform. The iPhone as a gaming device has been great for getting fun games back into the hands of young kids and adults alike. I have no problem paying 10 dollars for a game like madden. While I can understand their frustration with complaints, I would not pay $39 for any game on this platform. One could simply just refuse to lower the price.

  • Augie

    The App Store has brought gaming to a fun and affordable level. People need to stop complaining about prices so much. I personally think nintendo and psp prices are too steep for the platform. The iPhone as a gaming device has been great for getting fun games back into the hands of young kids and adults alike. I have no problem paying 10 dollars for a game like madden. While I can understand their frustration with complaints, I would not pay $39 for any game on this platform. One could simply just refuse to lower the price.

  • pholly

    This is just a way to get attention. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who complained about the price are the people who bought it and found out that it was a piece of crap. If they don't like the iPhone "scene" they don't have to develop for it, I'm sure they wouldn't be missed. Both of their games are obvious ripoffs of other games. Maybe if they released something original then people wouldn't complain about the price.

    • monica

      It got you attention pholly.... :))))
      how does ifart be better then alchemize?... you are all insa*e if you pay 99c for farting sounds... and feel ripped off if a game cost above that.
      Any publicity is good publicity. One copy to my iPhone memory of Alchemize please after protest. :D xo

      • pholly

        Not really, this has made me not want to buy anything from them ever. And I've never bought a fart app, you would be stupid to do so when there are lots of free ones.

  • pholly

    This is just a way to get attention. I'd be willing to bet most of the people who complained about the price are the people who bought it and found out that it was a piece of crap. If they don't like the iPhone "scene" they don't have to develop for it, I'm sure they wouldn't be missed. Both of their games are obvious ripoffs of other games. Maybe if they released something original then people wouldn't complain about the price.

    • monica

      It got you attention pholly.... :))))
      how does ifart be better then alchemize?... you are all insa*e if you pay 99c for farting sounds... and feel ripped off if a game cost above that.
      Any publicity is good publicity. One copy to my iPhone memory of Alchemize please after protest. :D xo

      • pholly

        Not really, this has made me not want to buy anything from them ever. And I've never bought a fart app, you would be stupid to do so when there are lots of free ones.

  • http://mattplays.com/ Matt

    It seems some people don't like the idea that the market dictates the price. Either people will buy your game, or not, depending on your price. The economy the way it is don't help, either. I don't see how protesting will help, though.

  • http://mattplays.com/ Matt

    It seems some people don't like the idea that the market dictates the price. Either people will buy your game, or not, depending on your price. The economy the way it is don't help, either. I don't see how protesting will help, though.

  • BRIAN_t3

    I like that Schiau Studios responded contrary to what people expected. Why all this hike to punish them for getting in the other direction that the other 99.99(9)% devs. If they set Alchemize free it would bump up the first position on the app store like christmas. If you want to buy something you buy it or not. Do not make that fuss on price.

  • BRIAN_t3

    I like that Schiau Studios responded contrary to what people expected. Why all this hike to punish them for getting in the other direction that the other 99.99(9)% devs. If they set Alchemize free it would bump up the first position on the app store like christmas. If you want to buy something you buy it or not. Do not make that fuss on price.

  • xeno

    Much respect for Schiau Studios.

  • xeno

    Much respect for Schiau Studios.

  • johan

    Dear Schiau Studios,
    good luck with PSP.

    look, if developers dont like the fact that games generally have price points at appstoe, cheaper than say Xbox, i say.

    1) most apps are less than 1/4 gig, how much work and developement did you do. not much. judging by size compared to say 30gigs for gta 4
    2) why is it good app makeing companys dont bitch, is it because no one wants to but your app that your complaining.
    3) there is no cost for shipping or warehouse storage, are you complaining thats its too expensive to stock your product?
    4) why not compete on a different platform, like psp, and ignore the app store and iphone. is it because a 99 cent app store hit will make more profit than a 39.99 PSP hit, (volume and cost being the difference here)

    rediculous arguements intended to drive up the price, in this case, for a very substandard product.
    if your app was worth it, it would sell. you would be happy.
    if you want to raise the price, raise the price.
    if all developers raise their prices, goodbye app store. The market will not bare it and the indies will replace you outright.
    truth is, i would spend top dollar, on Xbox games, not for my cellphone.
    Schiau Studios, you just made it on my lifetime ban, i wont buy your app at any price. thats my protest against greedy SOB's
    other studios, you want to raise your price, do so, just make sure your product is up to snuff first. between 2 and 10$ is about right, too be honest, most developers, real developers like ea, people who made something in the past, are probably happier selling games like fifa at 10$ here than 60$ at the store. cheaper production, distribution advertiing etc, more profit per sale ...
    ... thats, as long as you sell, thats were Schiau Studios real problem is.

    • BRIAN_t3

      dammm... it's a statement!!!!!!
      WTF don't you understand....
      as if they care that you won't buy their games anymore... :))))))))))))
      Maybe they will release a major platinum/awarded/oscar/nobel game... even if you will buy it you won't tell... :P

      • johan

        dammm… it's a statement!!!!!!
        WTF don't you understand….

        I get it good. A second rate hack wants to tell off the community because he produced yet another copy of the most tired genre in gameing
        his statement is to try and protest by an attack on the consumer rather than make something good.

        My stament, being someone who pays ragularly to hacks like him I believe I have the right to make a statement as well, so
        ... My Statement back is if all you produce are pour copies of cheap knock offs, you dont desreve top dollar. If you want to charge more, charge more, dont use me, your consumer, as the target of some kind of vendetta. I am sorry if you think you are undervalued. Try this, get a job. Maybe then you will find out what your value really is.

        I guess that means, my response is

        dammm… it's MY Response!!!!!!
        I would pass for free on this. Not just because of the present, "statement," but
        because I dont have space or time for yet another imitation. Too many better
        versions allready exsist.
        I think the consumer should not be punished because the developer is lousey.
        I think if the app was good it would make a fortune at 0.99
        I Think all this BS, is not going to change the fact that we are talking about a
        lousey app.
        I think this type of, "statement," basically telling the community FU, is
        deserving of a lifetime ban. I may be one person, but I spent 200$ this year on apps.
        WTF don't you understand….

      • johan

        dammm… it's a statement!!!!!!
        WTF don't you understand….

        I get it good. A second rate hack wants to tell off the community because he produced yet another copy of the most tired genre in gameing
        his statement is to try and protest by an attack on the consumer rather than make something good.

        My stament, being someone who pays ragularly to hacks like him I believe I have the right to make a statement as well, so
        ... My Statement back is if all you produce are pour copies of cheap knock offs, you dont desreve top dollar. If you want to charge more, charge more, dont use me, your consumer, as the target of some kind of vendetta. I am sorry if you think you are undervalued. Try this, get a job. Maybe then you will find out what your value really is.

        I guess that means, my response is

        dammm… it's MY Response!!!!!!
        I would pass for free on this. Not just because of the present, "statement," but
        because I dont have space or time for yet another imitation. Too many better
        versions allready exsist.
        I think the consumer should not be punished because the developer is lousey.
        I think if the app was good it would make a fortune at 0.99
        I Think all this BS, is not going to change the fact that we are talking about a
        lousey app.
        I think this type of, "statement," basically telling the community FU, is
        deserving of a lifetime ban. I may be one person, but I spent 200$ this year
        on apps. Many were terrible, many were good. None deserved 39.99$
        WTF don't you understand….

  • johan

    Dear Schiau Studios,
    good luck with PSP.

    look, if developers dont like the fact that games generally have price points at appstoe, cheaper than say Xbox, i say.

    1) most apps are less than 1/4 gig, how much work and developement did you do. not much. judging by size compared to say 30gigs for gta 4
    2) why is it good app makeing companys dont bitch, is it because no one wants to but your app that your complaining.
    3) there is no cost for shipping or warehouse storage, are you complaining thats its too expensive to stock your product?
    4) why not compete on a different platform, like psp, and ignore the app store and iphone. is it because a 99 cent app store hit will make more profit than a 39.99 PSP hit, (volume and cost being the difference here)

    rediculous arguements intended to drive up the price, in this case, for a very substandard product.
    if your app was worth it, it would sell. you would be happy.
    if you want to raise the price, raise the price.
    if all developers raise their prices, goodbye app store. The market will not bare it and the indies will replace you outright.
    truth is, i would spend top dollar, on Xbox games, not for my cellphone.
    Schiau Studios, you just made it on my lifetime ban, i wont buy your app at any price. thats my protest against greedy SOB's
    other studios, you want to raise your price, do so, just make sure your product is up to snuff first. between 2 and 10$ is about right, too be honest, most developers, real developers like ea, people who made something in the past, are probably happier selling games like fifa at 10$ here than 60$ at the store. cheaper production, distribution advertiing etc, more profit per sale ...
    ... thats, as long as you sell, thats were Schiau Studios real problem is.

    • BRIAN_t3

      dammm... it's a statement!!!!!!
      WTF don't you understand....
      as if they care that you won't buy their games anymore... :))))))))))))
      Maybe they will release a major platinum/awarded/oscar/nobel game... even if you will buy it you won't tell... :P

      • johan

        dammm… it's a statement!!!!!!
        WTF don't you understand….

        I get it good. A second rate hack wants to tell off the community because he produced yet another copy of the most tired genre in gameing
        his statement is to try and protest by an attack on the consumer rather than make something good.

        My stament, being someone who pays ragularly to hacks like him I believe I have the right to make a statement as well, so
        ... My Statement back is if all you produce are pour copies of cheap knock offs, you dont desreve top dollar. If you want to charge more, charge more, dont use me, your consumer, as the target of some kind of vendetta. I am sorry if you think you are undervalued. Try this, get a job. Maybe then you will find out what your value really is.

        I guess that means, my response is

        dammm… it's MY Response!!!!!!
        I would pass for free on this. Not just because of the present, "statement," but
        because I dont have space or time for yet another imitation. Too many better
        versions allready exsist.
        I think the consumer should not be punished because the developer is lousey.
        I think if the app was good it would make a fortune at 0.99
        I Think all this BS, is not going to change the fact that we are talking about a
        lousey app.
        I think this type of, "statement," basically telling the community FU, is
        deserving of a lifetime ban. I may be one person, but I spent 200$ this year on apps.
        WTF don't you understand….

      • johan

        dammm… it's a statement!!!!!!
        WTF don't you understand….

        I get it good. A second rate hack wants to tell off the community because he produced yet another copy of the most tired genre in gameing
        his statement is to try and protest by an attack on the consumer rather than make something good.

        My stament, being someone who pays ragularly to hacks like him I believe I have the right to make a statement as well, so
        ... My Statement back is if all you produce are pour copies of cheap knock offs, you dont desreve top dollar. If you want to charge more, charge more, dont use me, your consumer, as the target of some kind of vendetta. I am sorry if you think you are undervalued. Try this, get a job. Maybe then you will find out what your value really is.

        I guess that means, my response is

        dammm… it's MY Response!!!!!!
        I would pass for free on this. Not just because of the present, "statement," but
        because I dont have space or time for yet another imitation. Too many better
        versions allready exsist.
        I think the consumer should not be punished because the developer is lousey.
        I think if the app was good it would make a fortune at 0.99
        I Think all this BS, is not going to change the fact that we are talking about a
        lousey app.
        I think this type of, "statement," basically telling the community FU, is
        deserving of a lifetime ban. I may be one person, but I spent 200$ this year
        on apps. Many were terrible, many were good. None deserved 39.99$
        WTF don't you understand….

  • http://libra.nyisztorkaroly.org Carlos

    Ok, let's see what happens. I *just* raised the price for Libra balance as well, but I do not aim that high. ;-)
    It's kind of an interesting experience, however I'm nearly sure it won't help.

  • http://libra.nyisztorkaroly.org Carlos

    Ok, let's see what happens. I *just* raised the price for Libra balance as well, but I do not aim that high. ;-)
    It's kind of an interesting experience, however I'm nearly sure it won't help.

  • Margle

    I forgot about Car Jack Streets. I wonder if a single person out there actually played it every single week for months to get to the end like the devs forced you to. That was really the stupidest idea I've seen on the iphone yet.

  • Margle

    I forgot about Car Jack Streets. I wonder if a single person out there actually played it every single week for months to get to the end like the devs forced you to. That was really the stupidest idea I've seen on the iphone yet.

  • Greg

    Oh, great, another match-3 game that they somehow think is worth anything at all when there are at least 10 free ones in the App Store now.

    Apps are priced at what the market will pay for them, if you don't like it, sell your crappy derivative shit elsewhere. Oh, nowhere else will take your app? Well then, I guess maybe it's not the users who should quit "whining".

  • Greg

    Oh, great, another match-3 game that they somehow think is worth anything at all when there are at least 10 free ones in the App Store now.

    Apps are priced at what the market will pay for them, if you don't like it, sell your crappy derivative shit elsewhere. Oh, nowhere else will take your app? Well then, I guess maybe it's not the users who should quit "whining".

  • handsome

    I think 1.99 is a better price for indie developer. 0.99 make you stuck. 1.99 allow you to drop price.

  • handsome

    I think 1.99 is a better price for indie developer. 0.99 make you stuck. 1.99 allow you to drop price.

  • yo

    ha, that shitty little app (alchemize) isn't even worth free.

    • BRIAN_t3

      Neither do you are worth even free... :)

  • yo

    ha, that shitty little app (alchemize) isn't even worth free.

    • BRIAN_t3

      Neither do you are worth even free... :)

  • Carl

    $10-15 is a better price for more premium apps... it is not as high as 39.99 but it's around what most games should be these days.

  • Carl

    $10-15 is a better price for more premium apps... it is not as high as 39.99 but it's around what most games should be these days.

  • jon

    Smart business decision. I've always found that the most successful businesses are the ones that give the finger to potential customers.

    I looked at the game. Wouldn't even download it for free.

  • jon

    Smart business decision. I've always found that the most successful businesses are the ones that give the finger to potential customers.

    I looked at the game. Wouldn't even download it for free.

  • chris

    Look out - your ignorance is showing.

    File size is not directly related to development time or effort. What if they added hours of video cutscenes, or stuck with completely uncompressed audio, and drove the size up to three gigs? Would that make it worth it in your eyes?

    I also fail to see how GTA IV could be 30 gigs, seeing as how it's available on DVD. Possibly if everything was uncompressed - but again, does not compressing something make it more of a development effort?

    The only "rediculous arguements" I see are yours.

    • johan

      A premium title, takes years to produce with an army of artist behind the scenes. Everything from voice actors, to animators to programers.
      You walk into Ubisoft, you see the armies of workers working, you see the end product, you understand why.

      Same goes for all game companies.

      After production, millions are spent in advertising, in burning DVD and game boxs, trucking the games to store arround the world. Millions more spent on bribing stores to get premium location on the floor and mention in magazines or web sights.

      Or, you can spend a few weeks, months, with a couple of people and submit it to the App store.

      Thats the difference.
      Indie developers, you are looking at this opportunity all wrong. You have a chance, at almost no cost, and with a massive market, to earn yourself a career in gameing. The cream will rise and the cream will make fortune.

      But you need to earn that right. There are more fakes and more wannabees here than anything else. This Statement, is by a wantabe who is to busy wineing and not busy enough improveing his art.
      At even 99 cents, you can make a fortune here. Dont get me wrong, up to 10$ is reasonable if you produce quality. BUT.
      Ubisfoft, Microsoft, 2K, EA etc, they are watching you developers, too see if any of you has a chance for the real big time. I know because I work for a gaming company, not listed,

      You want to be a success, you need to make good product. You make junk, you dont deserve success.
      Your worried about squeezing every penny you can get out of your market, its called HOTSHOTTING, and it always ends the same way, NO MORE MARKET. People are not stupid, they will not follow crap endlessly.

      Back to my orriginal point, make a good product, and charge what you want. Just realise the big boys on the block are happy with 6.99$ to 10$ The indies, with your cost, should be happy between 2.99$ (for a gem) to 0.99$ for a good work. But really, Indies, get noticed by producing gems, dont worry about makeing a fortune, the money will come if you make quality, then we will talk about a nice corner office and a real budget for a tripple A tittle.

      • chris

        My comment was, in particular, a response to this statement that you made:

        "1) most apps are less than 1/4 gig, how much work and developement did you do. not much. judging by size compared to say 30gigs for gta 4"

        You're measuring quality by quantity. I could buy a really huge steak for 9.99 - but if it tastes like crap, is it worth it?

        True, this may not be the best game to make their statement with - there are other indie games out there that actually come close to justifying the price tag they've placed on this one and raising the prices on these games would better validate the protest - but I think the statement needed to be made nonetheless. Honestly, I think a standardized pricing system needs to be in place to increase the health of the App store, and I don't think it should be priced by the pound (or gig)...

        I apologize if my previous comment came across as harsh - your comments struck a nerve.

        Chris

  • chris

    Look out - your ignorance is showing.

    File size is not directly related to development time or effort. What if they added hours of video cutscenes, or stuck with completely uncompressed audio, and drove the size up to three gigs? Would that make it worth it in your eyes?

    I also fail to see how GTA IV could be 30 gigs, seeing as how it\'s available on DVD. Possibly if everything was uncompressed - but again, does not compressing something make it more of a development effort?

    The only \"rediculous arguements\" I see are yours.

    • johan

      A premium title, takes years to produce with an army of artist behind the scenes. Everything from voice actors, to animators to programers.
      You walk into Ubisoft, you see the armies of workers working, you see the end product, you understand why.

      Same goes for all game companies.

      After production, millions are spent in advertising, in burning DVD and game boxs, trucking the games to store arround the world. Millions more spent on bribing stores to get premium location on the floor and mention in magazines or web sights.

      Or, you can spend a few weeks, months, with a couple of people and submit it to the App store.

      Thats the difference.
      Indie developers, you are looking at this opportunity all wrong. You have a chance, at almost no cost, and with a massive market, to earn yourself a career in gameing. The cream will rise and the cream will make fortune.

      But you need to earn that right. There are more fakes and more wannabees here than anything else. This Statement, is by a wantabe who is to busy wineing and not busy enough improveing his art.
      At even 99 cents, you can make a fortune here. Dont get me wrong, up to 10$ is reasonable if you produce quality. BUT.
      Ubisfoft, Microsoft, 2K, EA etc, they are watching you developers, too see if any of you has a chance for the real big time. I know because I work for a gaming company, not listed,

      You want to be a success, you need to make good product. You make junk, you dont deserve success.
      Your worried about squeezing every penny you can get out of your market, its called HOTSHOTTING, and it always ends the same way, NO MORE MARKET. People are not stupid, they will not follow crap endlessly.

      Back to my orriginal point, make a good product, and charge what you want. Just realise the big boys on the block are happy with 6.99$ to 10$ The indies, with your cost, should be happy between 2.99$ (for a gem) to 0.99$ for a good work. But really, Indies, get noticed by producing gems, dont worry about makeing a fortune, the money will come if you make quality, then we will talk about a nice corner office and a real budget for a tripple A tittle.

      • chris

        My comment was, in particular, a response to this statement that you made:

        "1) most apps are less than 1/4 gig, how much work and developement did you do. not much. judging by size compared to say 30gigs for gta 4"

        You're measuring quality by quantity. I could buy a really huge steak for 9.99 - but if it tastes like crap, is it worth it?

        True, this may not be the best game to make their statement with - there are other indie games out there that actually come close to justifying the price tag they've placed on this one and raising the prices on these games would better validate the protest - but I think the statement needed to be made nonetheless. Honestly, I think a standardized pricing system needs to be in place to increase the health of the App store, and I don't think it should be priced by the pound (or gig)...

        I apologize if my previous comment came across as harsh - your comments struck a nerve.

        Chris

  • Astor

    Brilliant marketing campaign for a cause like that, but in my opinion SchiauStudios did a big mistake because he did not announce the charity campaign from the very beginning. I don't mind paying even $100 for that game, if this helps that 19yr old girl. I have a daughter as well and I don't even want to imagine what is in her parents mind and heart.

    • BRIAN_t3

      if you do not mind spending $100 on a game for charity... then you can spend $39.99... $37 will go to Ioana.... if you want $100 buy 3 Alchemizes. You have all my respect.

  • Astor

    Brilliant marketing campaign for a cause like that, but in my opinion SchiauStudios did a big mistake because he did not announce the charity campaign from the very beginning. I don't mind paying even $100 for that game, if this helps that 19yr old girl. I have a daughter as well and I don't even want to imagine what is in her parents mind and heart.

    • BRIAN_t3

      if you do not mind spending $100 on a game for charity... then you can spend $39.99... $37 will go to Ioana.... if you want $100 buy 3 Alchemizes. You have all my respect.

  • dojjah

    I have been trying to download Car Jack Streets but I keep being told "The item is being modified please try back later". I hope this does not mean they are changing the price back!!

  • dojjah

    I have been trying to download Car Jack Streets but I keep being told "The item is being modified please try back later". I hope this does not mean they are changing the price back!!

  • Konstanz

    TA... you should really work on profanity on your forum threads... This is a place where kids come also... and I just checked the top thread about Alchemize... and I am sure I will ban this site for my kids... a language like that from "sonryhater" I forbid it for my kids

  • Konstanz

    TA... you should really work on profanity on your forum threads... This is a place where kids come also... and I just checked the top thread about Alchemize... and I am sure I will ban this site for my kids... a language like that from "sonryhater" I forbid it for my kids

  • Paul Osburn

    Schiau Studios has certainly struck a chord with people on this forum ... strong feelings for sure.

    I think people are looking for value. I want to play something that is fun, is of good quality for what I think is a fair price. From a developers perspective, that's all well and good until you look back at how much effort was required to create a game on the iPhone (a quality game, that is). It must be frustrating to put a lot of effort into something that gets buried on the app store because of the shear volume of games that are added each week. A quality app can be lost in the shuffle.

    In the end, if a developer want's to raise their price in protest, let them do it. If a consumer doesn't want to purchase the app at the high price, so be it. It seems like the developer's main goal is to make a statement. Judging by the passion demonstrated in this thread it seems like they've done that. Will it help change the way games are priced in the app store ... that doesn't seem likely to me.

  • Paul Osburn

    Schiau Studios has certainly struck a chord with people on this forum ... strong feelings for sure.

    I think people are looking for value. I want to play something that is fun, is of good quality for what I think is a fair price. From a developers perspective, that's all well and good until you look back at how much effort was required to create a game on the iPhone (a quality game, that is). It must be frustrating to put a lot of effort into something that gets buried on the app store because of the shear volume of games that are added each week. A quality app can be lost in the shuffle.

    In the end, if a developer want's to raise their price in protest, let them do it. If a consumer doesn't want to purchase the app at the high price, so be it. It seems like the developer's main goal is to make a statement. Judging by the passion demonstrated in this thread it seems like they've done that. Will it help change the way games are priced in the app store ... that doesn't seem likely to me.

  • GlassJoe

    Too bad I bought the app and it is buggy on my ITouch 2G OS 3.x. Giant geometric shapes blocking my play screen is no fun.

  • GlassJoe

    Too bad I bought the app and it is buggy on my ITouch 2G OS 3.x. Giant geometric shapes blocking my play screen is no fun.

  • daisssu

    i got it also on my touch 1g os 2.1.1 and it works perfect. i think people only want to trash the app. you are so silly.

  • daisssu

    i got it also on my touch 1g os 2.1.1 and it works perfect. i think people only want to trash the app. you are so silly.

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