Earlier this morning, Eli and I spent some time with Real Racing 3, which is available now in some international App Stores. As you probably already know, this is a free-to-play game and this little factoid is kinda rubbing dudes the wrong way. The fear is that EA has tuned the game to be no more than an IAP machine that forces users to pay at every corner, turn, and twist. In the interest of SCIENCE, we decided to see if this was, in fact, the case. Spoiler: it isn't.

In the following, we spend around 30 minutes in the game in a rush to hit paywall. We eventually do, but it wasn't one that felt gross. You'll see what we mean, if you take a look. Check it out:

  • Scott Wilkerson

    No 720p?

    • arn

      It's processing

  • JCman7

    It might not force you to pay but it forces you to wait which is annoying. I've played about 30 mins and now I have to wait 6 hours to use my car again. Not using my coins yet though. Will watch this video a little later to hear your point of view.

    • jamarohn

      If you're a good driver to the point of minimizing damage to your car, wouldn't that affect how long you have to wait? In other words isn't the IAP model an incentive to take time to master driving skills? I haven't tried it myself so all I'm saying is based on assumptions...

      • Platyrrhine

        The worst of the waiting is because of getting your car "serviced," which will happen often pretty much no matter what.

      • JCman7

        Not really the AI is pretty aggressive and the slightest bump causes lights to break etc.. And just by racing a few races you need to change oil etc.. So good driving skills has no impact on those. Those services also take a long time to finish compared to the car damage repairs. Also you have to wait for upgrades and buying new cars.

      • jamarohn

        Sounds horrible. How unfortunate... :(

      • Pete Morris

        Yep, the waiting time quickly overtakes playing time. I've got about 1 hour and 15 minutes play out of it so far. Waiting time about 3 hours!

      • McCREE

        No. In addition to fixing your broken car, you'll have to deal with maintenance. Oil changes, engine tuning, etc. All of these are independent of actual physical damage, and are also what take up the bulk of the wait time. Physical damage has to be paid for or waited on as well, but driving cleanly won't prevent you for falling into this trap. Garbage.

      • MidianGTX

        The AI also completely ignores the player. You'll notice this very quickly on the oval track when you find yourself being crushed against the outside wall by a whole line of cars that are -still- trying to turn in your direction. Minimizing damage isn't gonna be easy.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shubhan.mint Shubhan Mint

      Or you can repair your car one part at a time, playing and then repairing. And also damage doesn't really even affect performance that much unless you basically run straight into a wall at 120 mph, in which case it is apparent you don't understand physics and how racing works

      • REALdisappointed

        Or you can download and install one of the many available RR3 hacks and get unlimited gold and currency. I was so excited to buy this as a premium game but now they won't get a cent from me and I'll play the shit out of this game like I have been for the last 2 hours and laugh the whole time as I think about how going the IAP route was supposed to workaround piracy. It's a fun game but I couldn't imagine it without the hacks. Once you get far into the game the IAPs/wait times only get way more expensive and way longer. It's absolutely insane. Play the game in airplane mode and don't update it ever and you'll be playing hacked RR3 till you drop. Or until they convert it to a premium game. I don't feel bad at all about this either. Do what I did: download it, leave 1 star review, hack it for unlimited money and gold, play the sh*t out of it.

      • REALdisappointed

        BTW, these hacks DO NOT require jailbreak. It's easier with a jailbreak but not by much. It's easy regardless.

      • Illuminerdy

        Oh, look at the badass. So sexy this one.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Marek-Rabas/100000267513808 Marek Rabas

        So you downloaded, gave them one start review, hack it and playing it. I hope you are really proud of you..

      • REALdisappointed

        That is exactly what I did. I have never pirated an app in my life until this RR3 hack. And an argument can be made that iOS piracy is what drove Firemint to this businessss model. But you really have no idea how much of a cash dump this game is. Do you know that I spent over 400 gold coins in a 3 hour playing session? Of course I was playing it in the same way I would've played RR2 with absolutely no wait times and keeping my car in tip top shape. But that was damn near $40 worth of gold to play this game like a hardcore gamer would for 3 hours! So no I don't feel bad at all. Hell, for the money it takes to play RR3, you could setup and maintain an iRacing account on the PC and race with real professional racecar drivers from around the world! Has anyone noticed that the game doesn't have replay functionality nor does it have time trials? I'm a hot lap junkie myself and held many world records in RR1&RR2 so this really sucks. Time trials are also a good way to get aqainted with a track! Now you have to learn a track while racing and tearing your car up the whole time. Oh and try to win a 3 lap race while starting at the very end of a 22 car grid without driving like a madman and causing tons of damage to your car....If you support this game model: you're either Payed by EA to do so (like TA apparently) or you're a communist...

      • kyrill

        Wait... A Communist??

      • REALdisappointed

        Lol yeah sounded right at the time. Maybe not a communist, but very very rich?

    • Pete Morris

      I was trying not to use my coins too, but found that to get the last engine upgrade for my car cost 4 coins instead of $s. So they're going to get those coins out of you eventually whether you like it or not.

      Incidentally, my car is still too slow to compete, so it was a waste...

      • 1Fcm

        Wait till you try and pick up the ultra high end vehicles... some will cost you $100 real dollars.... or you could grind for years to build up the stingy premium currency.

    • http://www.facebook.com/xavier.milnic Xavier Milnič

      What is really bad is no support on appletv like on RR2. Look at youtube and watch?v=QAReiSzqdCo

  • Ajstadel

    My concern about the freemium elements is that it allows people to use tools that allow for "cracking" in-app purchases, pretty much breaking the game for everyone else who doesn't spend inordinate amounts of money on it. Is there anything to address this?

    • .Asa

      Crack the IAPs and get in on the fun!

      • LearnIIBurn

        There's no place like 127.0.0.1

  • magicplums

    Ah, but is there a way to circumvent the waiting time.

    I'll let you think about that one ;)

    • McCREE

      Too bad there's no way of circumventing the fact that this game is a cash-grab and nothing more. Another franchise chewed up and spit out by EA.

      • magicplums

        This is true. However, by circumventing the waiting times you would in theory never have to put any money in Electronic conARTists pockets.

        And i can confirm it is possible.

      • themostunclean

        I just confirmed this as well. Must be in airplane mode for it to work but completely eliminates wait times.

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        This. Download it, play it in airplane mode and never update it, because **** cash grab, They could have just had a 1 time fee without all this waiting and had separate IAPs instead and I'd be fine with that, but this waiting crap ain't good for my nerves.

      • pauldavidmerritt

        Yep, you may be right--BUT this kind of crap makes a person grow old quick (let alone grow tired with the waiting games).

      • http://twitter.com/iseptimus Paul

        Moving the time back and forward gets old also.

      • Benegesserit

        I blame Firemint for selling out. They knew what EA would do to the franchise. They just wanted their lump sum and retire.

    • Nick

      Because there's a way to break the system that's in place doesn't remove that system. If possible, they'll fix it.

      I would SO rather just give them a lot of my money and not have have to worry that because I hit a wall and have to wait longer. All it does is make the gameplay stressful. I am not very good initially, but I get much better in time, but that requires a lot of restarts on my end. Because of that, this game would end up being nothing but frustrating..

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        Don't update it and EA's greedy palms won't ever touch it. I'm pretty sure they will throw in some huge incentives later on to update the game, but by that time I'll probably be tired of this game anyways (I'll grow tired even faster with the wait time) and moved onto something else.

  • Wikilix

    Using iAPFree, glad that I don't have to be bothered by these crazy iAP's EA Setup. Wish i could actually pay for this game so Firemonkey gets some money

    • kyrill

      What's IAPFree?

      • .Asa

        Lets you get IAPs for free. Jailbreak only.

    • magicplums

      Oh, they will be getting money alright, thats the issue.

      It does really annoy me that a game we have all been really looking forward to has ended up this way. Its nothing like RR2, that game i played to death, i dont think ill be saying the same about 3. It just stinks of EA mobile games.

    • McCREE

      Firemonkeys is EA. They are one in the same. EA bought Firemint, renamed them Firemonkeys and now they're just another division of EA. Firemonkeys won't see a dime of profit outside of whatever contract they signed when they decided selling out and cashing in is more important than integrity. For what it's worth, I would have done the same. But the guys that made this game won't be rewarded the same way they were with RR2. You can bet EA is going to make a boatload, though. Firemonkeys will probably have to hit some kind of target number to get a bonus or something, but they aren't getting paid per unit, no way.

    • Nick

      Nice knowing you. Really, proudly admitting you're a pirate here of all places? Let us know how the banhammer tastes.

      • LearnIIBurn

        I think it's more of a movement against a corrupt system than piracy. Everyone here feels pretty offended by IAP heavy games. EA's stand on micro transactions is quite aggressive, and their CEO has made it very clear to investors that more games in the future will have heavy micro transactions. Including many of their PC/PS/Xbox franchises.

        The funny thing is though, if they don't want to charge a face price on an app but rely on IAP only for revenue, then "piracy" will just shift with it.

        Get used to it. People don't want to pay for crap. Especially if its to "speed up" a repair job on a stupid digital car.

      • Nick

        Eh? I'm just telling the dude above me that professing his love for pirating IAP is going to get him banned.

        Disagree with ea all you want. Don't download the game. Or do and give it a 1 star review. But don't STEAL from them using an illegal method. That's just unacceptable, and does nothing to further anyone's point.

      • http://profiles.google.com/fleshman1992 Laszlo Tuss

        Stealing from thiefes is not actually stealing.
        And iAP currency is not a real product, but an endless miney well, you cant pay enough.

      • LearnIIBurn

        I'm not saying I'm against you for being

      • LearnIIBurn

        Sorry I hit reply too fast.

        I totally hear you that there are sites where it is more appropriate to talk about piracy and illegal iOS activity. The "banhammer" could drop on you for discussing that here, which is fine. But it doesn't stop the fact that its going to happen.

        I'm sure people get banned faster for talking trash about TA getting paid off for reviews than they do for talking about real issues like morality in jailbreaking and its hacks.

        Either way I like to come here for occasional news and if I get banned for comments (like I have on Gawker sites) then so be it. I am silenced. And on to the next one.

        I know what the banhammer doesn't taste like, money.

      • DEFMAD

        Micro transactions are easier on the AppStore because developers have a more direct route to people's credit cards. I don't believe they would be as successful outside of the AppStore (well, I hope not).

        Also, I'm disgusted (but not surprised) EA would do that.

  • Jonas

    Game doesn't look bad but there seems to be a lack of actual live multiplayer. Something that existed in the predecessor. TSM is cool but to me it doesn't beat actual live multiplayer. That set RR2 ahead of the pack.

  • fransoccer

    Yea best looking game and ruined by stupid IAP EA you guys suck so much

  • http://twitter.com/dtstro Stro

    If EA would just release a separate fully paid premium version, everyone would be happy.

    It's just so hard to stomach one of my favorite iOS titles of ALL TIME, has sold it's soul (literally) and turned into a waitware or pay me gold machine.

    /Rant I DON'T WANT TO WAIT TO PLAY! /RantOver

    • Jacob007

      You sir deserve an award.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shubhan.mint Shubhan Mint

      It hasn't if you actually play the damn thing properly

      • Nick

        No, you're right. Make sure you never get hit, at all. And if there's a magic way to never have to perform maintenance on your vehicle, let everyone know. Otherwise it is a wait to play system not long after you start the game.

      • LearnIIBurn

        That sucks to hear. Was really looking forward to this game.

      • REALdisappointed

        Have you played the game dude? For more than 10-15 minutes? There's no FN way that you have.

    • http://twitter.com/bjorn Bjorn Larsen

      LITERALLY.

  • kyle_mccall

    I'd rather pay $10 than have to mess with the IAP crap. This is going to hurt this game if it hasn't already.

    • arn

      Certainly understand people not liking IAP... But this will certainly make them more money than doing the normal pay-once.

      It's not going to "hurt" them financially.

      • kyle_mccall

        You're right. Can't blame them really, just stinks for iOS gamers.

  • TouchieArcader

    Liked the review, definitely made up my mind to have a go when it is available my end. Seemed a reasonable model when seen in action, if you want to spend extended time on this surely Gran Turismo or Forza on console would be a better option.

  • http://twitter.com/dezign999 François

    That koolaid must taste pretty good... #imjustsayin

  • troyster

    I won't even download it, EA is the worst

    • http://twitter.com/dtstro Stro

      Oh, I will...I just won't be playing it as much as I'd like. I'd be playing a SOLID iOS 'Premium game' like Heroes and Castles in between waiting...

  • rabidnz

    The goddamn touch controls are the problem. Perhaps with a controller it would be better, or if you could fix the button positions. At this stage the game is unplayable to any who cant stand gimmicky tilt controls and childish auto-everything. Very dissapointing after all the hype. Looks ok on my ipad2.

    • JCman7

      You can select what controls you want and you can turn off the auto braking etc.

    • debewley

      What's wrong with the tilt controls ? I think it's awesome using your device as a steering wheel lol

      • rabidnz

        How can you drive with the whole field of view lurching side to side at every minor steering adjustment? I have turned all auto everything off, but the goddamn buttons move so when you move your thumb up to brake you get a new accelerator position and careen off into the dirty bits.... The iap isnt a worry, iap heavy games get dealt to...

  • CharlesDayton

    Another great franchise gets EA'd.

    • McCREE

      Love it. Totally stealing "EA'd"

      I'll give credit where credit is due.

    • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

      Actually, it's another franchise getting Zynga'd...EA hasn't had an original idea in years, lets not give them credit where none is owed. (Not that Zynga is innovative either really)

  • pauldavidmerritt

    I agree. EA? Way to go! This game blows chunks. RR2 was made to be a real game, not some iAP, eye-candy and money-grabbing hogshwartz crap. RR2 is boss. Will not by it.

    I sit, and I watch for REAL mobile games to buy and invest in.

  • http://twitter.com/Arce_game Arce_game

    No apple tv support , sad :/

    • __M__

      What?? Ok last straw for me then. Multiplayer on Apple TV was epic. Not having this feature is crap.

      • http://www.facebook.com/xavier.milnic Xavier Milnič

        Just mirroring look on youtube: QAReiSzqdCo

  • Silverfist

    I don't care what the evidence and actual facts say, I WILL BELIEVE WHAT I WANT TO BELIEVE. This is TOTAL BS!!!!

    *sigh*

    .

  • Garbagemaster

    This is a bunch of garbage. I suspect EA is making a huge advertising purchase on TouchArcade.

    • http://www.toucharcade.com Eric Ford

      Believe it or not, it's possible to have differing opinions on the same subject without resorting to ridiculous accusations against the other side. Why yours and other comments have to be so binary is mind-boggling.

      • McCREE

        Really? Your mind is boggled? You can't wrap your head around why people are upset with the route EA has taken this franchise?

      • http://www.toucharcade.com Eric Ford

        How about you read the post that I was replying to and see what my comment was addressing?

      • MidianGTX

        Now I'm just wondering if you're the guy writing the review and you're worried we won't like all the praise you're giving it... so are you?

      • http://www.toucharcade.com Eric Ford

        I think most folks that have read my previous reviews know that I don't really worry about reader comments. Differing views are awesome and I think it's great to encourage debate. I just don't think it's particularly conducive to throw out the "payoff" card simply because someone doesn't agree with a post.

      • McCREE

        I certainly don't agree that TA was "paid off" to not spend the afternoon slamming this game into the ground the way it's members have been all day, but I find it pretty hard to believe there isn't just a little politicking going on here. Anyone with a iota of integrity and nothing to lose is going to call this debacle exactly what it is. I'd imagine those of you that are professionally affiliated with TA will have some reservations about pissing on the EA Machine, and that is to be expected. Disappointing, because anyone with a voice in this industry should help shoulder the responsibility of maintaining some degree of integrity, both personally and for the industry as a whole, but expected none the less. It's a shame you guys don't use the little bit of clout that you have for some good, rather than pandering to a bunch of executives hellbent on homogenizing an entire industry into an annual cut-and-paste with the occasional roster update.

      • http://twitter.com/JaredTA Jared Nelson

        What in the actual f**k are you talking about? Like, re-read your comment and tell me if that sounds like a reasonable, coherent response. We just got this game today, we haven't even formulated any opinions on it beyond the very first 30 minutes, which is what this video shows. Pissing on the EA machine? What does that even mean? What planet are you on? Seriously, the past few days have been excruciating on my brain listening to some of the weird shit people come up with.

      • Rdkjr11

        Pretty much hes saying that you are going to "kiss up to EA" and give the game a good review so it sells more.
        Since when was this about hating on Toucharcade guys? They have been straight forward and honest so far in their articles, telling us how the iap's work and providing videos so that we can see the game. No matter how much you hate the freemium app style on this game (and it looks bad so far, but i'll find out for myself on the 28th), its not their fault for it.
        Also, Toucharcade doesn't have really any power to increase or decrease sales. No matter what they say about the app when the review comes out, this game is just too big. It will be a hit one way or another.

      • http://twitter.com/JaredTA Jared Nelson

        Oh I see. Yeah, that's pretty insulting.

        But yeah we HAVE tried to be straight forward in all our coverage. I've been pleading with people for rationality and civility all day but a lot of people are mistaking it for me defending the game. I honestly couldn't care less who likes this game or not. The more I play it, the less I'm liking the timer thing too. But holy god at least I am playing the game to decide for myself rather than flying off the handle at the first mention of freemium.

      • Illuminerdy

        This GTX guy is the breaks.

  • McCREE

    How about you stop presuming I don't know how to read. I appreciate that some people may not have a problem with the F2P system employed by this game, but that isn't going to stop me from expressing my opinion. Apparently I'm not the only one, as you've so eloquently pointed out. This is a polarizing topic. People are going to have opinions and they are going to remain steadfast, regardless of what the "other side" may be saying. That's a fact, and its on display for everyone to see, right here in these comments if you doubt me. So again, are you having a difficult time wrapping your head around this? Is it really that "mind-boggling"?

    • Guest

      Ok, I'm going to make this easy for you.

      1. Person makes comment implying that coverage of this game is somehow based on advertising.

      2. I reply to person stating that it's mind-bogglign

      • mikeg1234

        You didn't respond to the person from #1 implying coverage is based on advertising. You responded to Eric Ford who stated it was mind-boggling that the sole reason someone would like the game is because they were paid off. Maybe, just maybe, TA wasn't paid off -- they probably weren't. Go back and read it again.

      • McCREE

        I know who I responded to. I responded to the guy who said our comments are binary. It's becoming clearer to me that I don't know what that means. Either way, I take sweeping generalizations personally, because I find that I am invested in this drama for some unknown reason, and when the guy made mention of other comments, above and beyond the advertising payoff (which I don't believe for a second), I felt my words were being put on trial as well.

    • http://www.toucharcade.com Eric Ford

      I'm going to make this easy for you:

      1. Person makes some assumption that the coverage is based on advertising.
      2. I call out person and state that it's mindboggling to immediately resort to such conclusions simply because they don't agree with the opposing view.
      3. You pop in and immediately assume my comment has to do with the whole free-to-play angle of the game and throw a fit.

      So, like I said, read what I'm replying to before resorting to conclusions. And with that, I'm done with this stupid argument.

      • McCREE

        Maybe I've misunderstood. You stated that you couldn't figure out why all of these comments are so binary. I'm not versed in this usage of the word binary in this context, but using my awesome powers of deduction, I gathered it meant something along the lines of polarizing. Something along the lines of 2 powerful lines of thought that do not intersect in a happy place. If my awesome powers of deduction have failed me, I apologize. If, however, I'm kinda close here, than I'm still wondering why you find it confusing that there are two distinct and emotionally charged trains of thought with regards to this pricing structure.

      • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

        Next time, maybe you should just Google dat sh*t.

      • McCREE

        I tried. Everything that came up had to do with coding. Thanks for the tip, though ;)

      • jamarohn

        His comment had nothing to do with the pricing model or EA or how the pay model sucks donkey balls. He was only reacting to the accusation that this posting was advertorial. That somehow TA was being paid by EA for this posting. That's what he was reacting to.

  • debewley

    I think this is bloody nonsense. a real smack in the face to the fans who have supported the game. fifa 13 is premium and is made by ea , so why has the legendary real racing turned into this crap ? I guess us "real" fans will be sticking to real racing 2 .... Bravo ea bloody bravo!

  • JordanC07

    This game sucks. The control sucks. RR2 is way better! Also, no option to use gas pedal? Come on, i want more control in my video games please.

    • McCREE

      Jesus. Of course there are control options in the menus. Come on.

  • err404

    Keep in mind that that 30 min play session was supported by $4 worth of IAP gold (20 free starter coins). That's really quite steep. The next time you pick up the game that gold won't be there. Also expect the time to upgrade and repair to go up after you finish the tutorial section.
    Nobody expects a good game for free. And that's really the problem; they are forcing a free game on those who want to pay. The game could have been amazing.

    • Scape3d

      You hit the goddamn nail on head.

    • Illuminerdy

      I had that many starting out too, you dunce.

    • Illuminerdy

      Seriously, 27+ upvotes for a false accusation. Fucking lemmings, the lot of you.

      • Pete Morris

        Can I ask what is false about what err404 said?

        Willing to admit I might have missed something, but I thought he had a point.

        You start off the game with 20 coins. If it takes 30 minutes to spend them all, it's going to cost 20 coins for every 30 minutes of play.

        It doesn't give out coins very often for free, so you'll have to buy them - that's going to be expensive.

      • Illuminerdy

        He is suggesting Brad and Eli had already purchased iAP to get around timers. This despite the fact that it was the first time they fired up the game. All players start with the 20g as far as I can tell. Their play through was truthful.

      • http://twitter.com/iseptimus Paul

        No he wasn't. He pointed out that at the start you get some free coins. You can use them in the first service and 10 races. After that, wait or pay.

      • black forest

        You are wrong..

      • MrSpud

        It's not like me to insult other people but since you have insulted, well, everybody, I have to say... My god you're dumb!!! You're the only one who doesn't get it, somehow, how can you not?! Are you sniffing glue?

      • Crzychkn

        I didn't see any suggestion of them purchasing coins. He clearly stated $4 of IAP (20 free starter coins). I think somehow you missed the part in parenthesis that all us other lemmings caught. ;)

      • Illuminerdy

        Fair enough. I admit I was wrong. Sorry, ya'll.

      • black forest

        Cool thx :)

  • debewley

    Where is the god damn loyalty to the fans who put the game where it is! And although I haven't played it yet , I can already tell I'm not going to like it because of the waiting times , and there's no way I'm jail breaking my beautiful device !!

  • islesfan

    From the comments here, it looks like I'll be sticking with RR2 and Most Wanted for my driving fix. I'd have been willing to pay $10 ONCE for a full version of RR3, but I'm not paying here, waiting there...

  • Cory Gillmore

    I honestly don't know what's more frustrating: this horrible game model or you two morons with your glass half full mentality fawning over it. You were able to play a lot longer than you should have but notice how you weren't competitive anymore after just a few races? That's because your car was messed up. In order to stay competitive you're gonna have to spend/wait a lot more than you did.

    I'm highly upset at this decision by Firemonkeys. Because playing the game, you can tell how awesome it could've been.

    • debewley

      Well your a moron for letting some comments between two people get at you.... An I missing something ?

      • McCREE

        *you're

      • debewley

        Aye ill give you that lol. One nill haha !

    • McCREE

      This is all EA. Firemonkeys is EA. Anyone that has a problem with this situation should take it up with EA.

      • debewley

        Firemint sold its soul. Can't you see why us true fans are so pissed??? It's nuts! Imagine call of duty doing this stunt. We would never hear the end of it!!

      • McCREE

        I don't think using CoD as a paradigm of decency in the digital media world is going to help you're cause, but I completely understand what your saying and I agree 100%.

      • debewley

        same principle right ? it feels like my touch is slowly dying because of this ios freemium crap. Very few heavy weight games are coming out. Love or hate gameloft at least modern combat 4 is a solid game ... Maybe the last :(

      • McCREE

        Did you see what I did there with the you're/your? I was giving you a chance to get on the scoreboard. Even take the lead. Oh well. Another missed opportunity. Seems like a trend with this thread.

      • debewley

        Dough!! Lol

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        Dude Aslphalt 7 is decent too. I paid the initial 1.99 and haven't needed to buy any IAPs, because they don't force it down your throat.

      • DEFMAD

        *your & *you're (respectively)

        No offence, couldn't help myself :)

        edit: Dang, just read your comment about doing it on purpose. Got me there! :D

      • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

        Crytek already said all of their games after Crysis 3 are going to be free to play, so, yeah, it's not that far in the future for all games to be that way.

    • McCREE

      Also, good call on the competitive aspect of the video. Totally on point.

  • err404

    It needs iCloud support. Any game with grinding plays better when I can pick up from any device.

  • http://twitter.com/QWERTYtheBold Brandon

    Oh good... Bumper damage... You know, I've always dreamed of my racing games having bumper damage. The realism is astounding.

  • ConceptNormal

    So I can get my feet wet for 30 mins and then it's up to me if my wallet is also wearing its bathing suit? I'd like to crash my car into FireMonkeys Ea studio... Unfortunately it will cost me money to play that "driving game" as well... Smh

  • Nick

    Waiting in a freemium building game is one thing.

    But waiting in a racing game is just a complete and utter joke.

    As if consumable IAP wasn't bad enough, having to wait for maintenance, wait for repairs. Wait for who know what else, just no.

    There are some things I'll put up with. Hell, put in a way to skip levels or skip waiting to buy a better car. But to have timers in situations like this, that's just stupid.

    I don't know what game you were playing, but I see a lot more clear comments about how it REALLY works after the initial first run.

    To make a better analogy, I didn't buy a freaking RCA Car with a 30 minute run time and a 4 hour recharge time.

    Man, while I still like Mass Effect, EA has effectively neutered gaming for the world. They have set a precedent that says it is okay to force people into a wait or pay system.

    • debewley

      In terms of gameplay how does it stack up the RR2 ?

  • Jason

    A 2 minute wait to buy your car after the first race? I'd use that time to delete the app. What a joke.

    • McCREE

      lolololol

    • http://www.facebook.com/inverse.chia Inverse Chia

      Thank god you can pay to remove the timer!

  • quitjoshin

    Eli, you know you can change your Game Center name, right? lol

  • Tonight@11

    The whole game is designed to punish you constantly both in game with AI ramming you to cause damage so you have to pony up $$$ to repair and with the ridiculous wait times for things like "car repair", "car delivery" "oil change". Absolute BS! It's more a chore to play this than fun.

  • GSport

    I am deeply saddened by these turn of events. I would prefer to pay full console game price for this instead of settling for the freemium version.

  • GSport

    This negative backlash is going to cause a lot of harm. They, EA, would be wise to offer both options.

    • quitjoshin

      I don't understand why they don't. What could it hurt? Give me the option of free to play or something like 6.99 for the game we were expecting and I would choose the paid version over free for sure. I honestly don't see why it has to be one or the other.

      • Maniacfive

        Because as it is, with free to play, you'd pay way more than £6.99 that's why they aren't giving both options.

        Unfortunately, there will no doubt be 'whales' who happily blow through 100s of dollars on this driving it right to the top of the charts and there will be back slaps and trebles all round at the EA offices.

  • debewley

    Well I'm going to go to bed and curl up and sulk . Can't believe a game Iv been looking forward to for so long has turned to this! Mr angel of death hand me the noose I'm over the edge ! Jokes*

    • debewley

      it was a JOKE! you should learn bloody English humor !

  • GSport

    I strongly urge everyone on this form to stop playing the game immediately! Tell anyone you know who has already downloaded RR3 to cease playing. 2 weeks of silence on their servers would really communicate how displeased the fans are. We need to stand together and teach these money grubbers a lesson!

    • Tonight@11

      Well I can do that easily as it will be getting uninstalled from my iPad once I've run out of the intro coins.

    • Yourplague

      Lol lets end world hunger and live in a world of peace while where at it... You act like only people who are on touch arcade play this game. And even though ea might have ruined RR3 in your eyes, I doubt they care about your opinion at all, there still going to make bank off of all the other people in this world who do like the game even if TA decides not to touch the game again.

    • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

      No skin off of EA's back. If the game tanks, you can say good bye to Firemonkey as did we with Westwood and the numerous other studios before it.

  • black forest

    This game sucks period! I won't spend any money on it. I also think people from this site got something from EA to write about this "great" game or this is just kiss EA ass for some love.Yes i'm gonna download game only to give this game 1 star and very very bad review.Shame on you EA and touch arcade.

    • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

      Well, as luck would have it, the game is actually FREE...you aren't being forced to spend any money at all to play it. Whether you do or don't play it is irrelevant to it's success. Their decision to go ftp will put the game into millions of more hands than it would have for 10 bucks, and of those millions of people, it only takes a dollar or two from a small percentage of them to make the game a financial success. You may not like it, or believe it, but it's a smart business decision on their part...after all, contrary to what the self-righteous people around here think, the games market doesn't actually revolve around you, or the TA community.

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        It revolves around how many stars it gets in the store. The less stars it gets the less people would download it even if it is free. From what I heard, it is already going down that road.

      • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

        I have no doubt that, in this case, Free trumps butthurt in the ratings, but if it makes you feel better, by all means, express yourself on there and watch it get swallowed up by millions of people who will download this because it is FREE, and because it looks incredible.

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        That is your opinion. There are plenty of games on the app store that looks great and got very low star ratings, because it doesn't play great, which means within a month, you couldn't even find it in the store if you tried.

      • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

        That isn't going to be the case here. I really doubt the IAP is going to diminish the fact that it is an amazing game on the platform, despite all the whining and posturing you people are doing.

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        All the whining and posturing is because we care about this game and don't want to see it get destroyed by a crappy freemium model. Not all freemium models are bad, don't get me wrong... but the one implemented here is amongst the worst.

      • http://twitter.com/try2bcool69 Jay G

        AH-HAH! So you admit to whining and posturing! ;-)

      • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

        It's out of love, besides EA just patched it for the worse once again.

      • Shellcore

        No, it revolves around you. How dare he for voicing his displeasure!

  • denisvjcr

    So long I wait for this game and now this crap.

    -5 star rating .

  • GSport

    This message is for the creators of Real Racing 3, FireMonkey. I have not had a chance to play the game yet but it looks like a lot of time and effort went into making this game. It was, up until this point, the most highly anticipated game on my list.

    It saddens me to see that EA has chosen to go the freemium route. Just judging by the gameplay video I would consider paying $20.00 for a full version of this game. There should be an option to buy the game.

    I will download this when it comes out here in the States. I want to see how it plays. One thing I will not do is buy iap's.

    Please realize that you are currently alienating your core fans.

    I would hate to see all of your efforts to create what may be the best racing game on the mobile platforms go to waste because some ignorant EA executives made a poor choice.

    Good luck, FireMonkeys!

    Wake up, EA...

  • http://twitter.com/dezign999 François

    I'll just leave this here...

  • diaskeaus

    I have little to no interest in playing a racing game that forces you to pay in or out of game currency for repairs the game forces on you.

    Real money in freemium should ALWAYS be about vanity and customization. Different models of the same car, special paint, cool sponsors (heck, sponsors could even award you in-game coins if they were represented well enough in-game if you won races with them).

    Paying real money could even unlock special races where you could race the same track but with only people who paid for that league. Same awards, just a totally different set of racers.

    But paying real money just so you can play more in a freemium game? That kind of defeats the ethical purpose, and knowingly imposes a pay/time rather than a pay/product. That kind of design then becomes focused in the end-game on awards which capitalize on addictive-style gameplay rather than fun-style gameplay. It may start out with roses, but ends in frustration.

  • RepublicanAxel

    Ha. My comment to the other RR post was deleted. It didn't cross any line. It simply wasn't a positive comment. Sad. I will never return.

  • http://twitter.com/Weegie_Mac James

    During that review, when you upgraded the engine, you wrongly said you could continue racing while the upgrades took place. You paid the 2 gold coins to get the upgrade immediately, so there was no waiting and the upgrade was complete, hence why you could race straight away. Nothing was being done while you raced.

    • http://normalkid.com Arnold Kim

      not sure which part in the video you are talking about, but you can definitely keep racing while waiting for upgrades.

    • Illuminerdy

      You can wait, which is why Brad got a notification after a race. He didn't spend gold coins on it. You are just seeing what you want to see to support your claims.

      For the record, I have grown to hate the timers and constant service needs, so I am on your side. Watch more carefully next time.

  • tarek

    What a terrible model. I just tried to play this on the train to/from work today. Having to wait around 3mins for even 2-3mins of gameplay ruins any continuity. I ended up reading a comic book and ignored the notification when it told me my car was ready. "Go F yourself." I thought. This will get a 1 star out of protest, even though the gameplay albeit brief, is enjoyable.

  • Monteirri

    Hack it that's all you gotta do! Oh and hey it's still free haha!

  • buzzbydj

    EA have messed up big time with this game, there greed is ridiculous, they wont be getting a penny off me. The iap is daylight robbery. Wanna buy a bugatti veyron? That will cost u £100 real money cos i seriously doubt u can earn anuf credits playing the game to actually buy a decent car. The fact that u can use iapfree to boost ur credits makes the game unplayable to anyone who hasn't took a loan out to purchase some credits. I really hope this game flops and makes a example of the greedy iap system. EA voted the most hated company in the world, living upto there name here.

  • Furtin

    Fact is: we, the commenters on an internet website about iOS games, are the minority.

    Most purchases will come from the huge masses that either just don't care or don't know better.

    This game will "sell" like hot cookies, if we like it or not. The freemium model is already taking over and all big IPs are following that route. Nobody is going to stop them.

    Even if we aren't downloading those freemium Apps, there will be a shitton out there that does. We live in dark, greedy times and gaming business has nothing to do with fun but with earning hard cash. Yes, I also would love to throw 15$ for this game to the developers. Seems they think it's not enough. Hey its free, you can always wait to play our games, they say.

    Truth is, it hurts as a gamer.

    • Pete Morris

      Yes, it's a massive middle finger to the existing RR fan base. But as you say, they couldn't give a rats ass about us any more - Apple have shown them a much bigger and much more lucrative market to suck on.

      That said, I can't understand why they can't offer a $20 option to unlock the whole thing. I doubt casual gamers would go for it, and it would keep us loyal fans happy.

      OK, I'll go and throw my rose tinted glasses in the trash...

    • DEFMAD

      Man, you've put into words what I've been feeling for a while now, as a long time gamer, it really does hurt.

      I've followed the AppStore since its infancy and watched with horror, the ever rising popularity of the freemium model. I couldn't believe some people were willing to spend so much money on a "game". Wasn't as hard to believe that most developers encouraged it.

      I wish I could enjoy more games on the AppStore, but as long as there are twats out there willing to fork over hundreds of dollars to greedy developers, freemium will never go away.

  • waynemagic

    Sad

  • http://twitter.com/AhiruDuck Ahiru Nakamura

    funny thing that the game's currency is the same as in Brazilian Real (R$)

  • nomster

    Hey Brad & Eli,

    I'd like to think I'm not one of the more whiny gamers and I am one who likes to pay for stuff to support good developers - but both of you showed a disturbing desire to find the game-mechanic pay-mechanic in this as justifiable.

    It's almost as if you don't know what the game publishers are up to with this freemium / paymium stuff.

    Of course your initial experiences weren't too bad - that's how they design these things - they're not stupid enough to spend months / years designing a free game and then have the player (often a younger, impatient person) get stymied from playing early on.

    It's like drug dealers - they'll give out enough of the good stuff for free -just long enough to get people hooked - and that's when the clever coding comes to the fore as it very gradually and increasingly makes the player feel they really have to upgrade a bit more than they can afford to get more fun from the experience.

    We all know gaming can be addictive - it's been the downside video gaming since it began - but now mobile gaming gives never ending access to young people's wallets - that's a dream come true for the more sordid developers out there.

    What is truly sad is you just know that they had to have spent as much time and ingenuity designing the insidious pay to play mechanic as they did the racing elements of the game.

    I agree that this will be a massive success.

    It's a truly sad day for mobile gaming.

    • http://twitter.com/iseptimus Paul

      Well said.

    • PureRumble

      God i love ur comparison of the freemium industry to drug dealers! Spot on!

  • Shellcore

    From my viewpoint, I can see it making money, but losing the fans who gave it success in the first place. I am disappointed. I will try the game out, but racing games should never involve waiting, as y'know being quick is kind of the point. Needless to say, I hope this doesn't become the norm.

  • Pete Morris

    Yes, I played for 30 minutes uninterrupted this morning. But it gets a lot worse.

    In all, I've played 55 minutes and waited for 60 minutes.

    By my calculations, to play uninterrupted at the current rate of upgrades/repairs is going to cost $6 an hour - I just don't see what is reasonable about that.

    That's not to mention that my car is upgraded all the way, and it's still too slow to compete.

    I think you should spend a bit longer with the game before making judgements like this...

  • http://twitter.com/PSNHotwire Hot-Wire

    How is that not gross? If you run into a paywell in 30 minutes and this paywell is the endless kind, you'll run into it basically every 30 minutes. I've spent many hours playing real racing 2. Days even. If I did the same in Real Racing 3, I'd might as well give up hopes on buying food and other necessities.

  • http://pinoyteens.net/ PinoyTeens.Net

    I remember a few hotheads bashing Asphalt 7 for its Freemium appeal with a price tag.... (I never felt hitting a paywall in Asphalt 7)

    If you thought Asphalt 7's IAP was bad (which again it wasn't), I don't know how you'd label the IAP in this game.

    Evil. Just plain evil. And greedy, and geez, it sucks. Big time.

  • http://pinoyteens.net/ PinoyTeens.Net

    I can already imagine FIFA14 and other upcoming EA titles where you have to wait in order to play a game! We are all doomed.

    • debewley

      I bloody hope not ! Fifa 13 is fantastic , best app along with RR2 and MC4 by a long shot! I don't think ea sports would dare try and piss off the fifa community , it would almost certainly be digging its own grave!

    • worldcitizen1919

      Ha ha. Fifa 14 will definitely make you buy the team you want to play. Then if your team runs out of stamina you'll probably have to buy them some cool aid or wait a day fir recovery. The skies the limit. I anticipate all top games being destroyed by greed.

  • Mat Valent

    @Toucharcade : A "pay or wait" game , how do you call this ? for me it's like a paywall , maybe even worse , because a paywall, you pay sometimes once, and you can play after , here, timers are worsening and except having 10 cars , or liking to play by sessions : it kills all enjoyment.

    I really hope you'll give this game a bad review for the sake of premium games... (i'll not talk about EA... >_> )

  • Tim Cant

    It's clear TA are trying to make the best of this, but the reality is that non-causal gamers are gonna have a bad time with this title, and it could have been amazing. Need for Speed: Most Wanted is 69p... why spend crazy cash playing this cynical, if incredible looking drivel? I guess the next NFS will be freemium too :(

  • MarkFromBitmenStudios

    At least appspy gave it an 3/5 (average) because of the high maintenance costs.

  • Madison

    Goodbye iPad. There was a time when you were becoming a real alternative to console and portable gaming. That was well before the App Store became the iApp greed store. I am on my way to buy a Wii U right now, Have fun on eBay Apple iPad.

  • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

    Congratulations, you just lost all credibility. Defending this kind of bullshit is downright shocking ("the paywall isn't that bad, I mean, it's only a 6 hour wait to service your car") I'm surprised you didn't tell everyone to go buy some coins in order to support EA... umm, FireMonkeys/Mint/Whatever.

    I guess now we know why FF:ATB got such a low score; Square-Enix didn't pay as much as EA.

  • Illuminerdy

    One thing the TA Plays and commenters in this thread seemed to have totally ignored is the fact that the repairs have stat detriments to your car's speed and handling. This is a unique sim-like, RPG component for a racing game, but this is also PAY2WIN without any remorse. In a game where I am supposedly playing time shifted multiplayer, a buff to my engine and overall speed is huge. Imagine you have unlocked everything without spending more than you feel is reasonable—you want to edge out someone in a race. You need the repairs, you need the upgrades, and you will wait 6+ hours unless you pay for the boost.

    I fail to see how this is not a gross PAY2WIN mechanic if you legit want to best someone's time in a timely fashion.

  • Th3R3n3gad3

    I can't wait until EA realizes that this f2p isn't going to work after they have 100,000+ 1 star reviews.

  • Edward Vaillancourt

    At higher levels, you can drive like an ace (no damage) and you will still need to "service" your cars which can start to take hours of waiting. After several hours of playing, I've heard of wait times of 6+ hours after a single race. I have respect for Touch Arcade, but I can't believe you guys are actually trying to make this game seem like a fair and justified offering from EA.

    • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

      Yup, it's pretty sickening to watch that video and see Eli and Brad just flippantly wave off complaints about the paywall. This site has sunk in my estimation.

      • http://pinoyteens.net/ PinoyTeens.Net

        Sad that not only the quality of iOS games has drowned in this freemium mess, but some Review Sites, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/piguet Lionel Piguet

    I am totally against IAP and even if I loved RR1 and 2, I am not gonna play that game, I would rather pay 5 or 6 dollars to have the whole game without IAP

  • black forest

    People please download game,play it for 30 min while is free and then delete game.Also don't forget to rate this game with 1 star.Trash this game in talk with family,friends,God's anyone you know.Also please don't spend any dollar in this game.

  • Henryduk

    A six hour service a day keeps the doctor away

  • jamarohn

    What worries me is how this might set a precedence to future titles. Imagine Bastion or Field Runners having a pay-or-wait mechanic. What about PC titles? A similar model can be applied to SimCity. Gross...

  • http://twitter.com/iseptimus Paul

    The AI and handling is a downgrade in this it seems to me when playing.

    The other racers have no clue you are there and make no adjustment and slam into you. Damage isn't always your fault, yet you get penalised for it. Like real life, which is not what I play a game for!

  • debewley

    has EA even climbed out of its lair and apologized ? or explained why they felt it was the right decision to sh*t all over RR core fans ? anyone who plays fifa ? Do you remember 12 and 13 on the vita ? they were Identical . I think it's about time the gaming community strikes back at EA , for ripping us off. WE NEED A BOYCOTT !!

    • Illuminerdy

      They won't apologize.

  • http://www.facebook.com/piguet Lionel Piguet

    I'll download it right now to give it a one star for this stupid IAP

  • Edward Vaillancourt

    RR3 = Real Ripoff³

  • dmarcoot

    I too would rather have paid for full game than have to wait for anything. i play most of my games while i waiting for stuff in real world. Now i have to wait on my games too? Idiocy.

    Also i want to thank all of you game pirates for making this possible.

    • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

      Bullshit, this has nothing to do with piracy. Stop being a puppet.

      • debewley

        yeah but on a side not I hate hackers they are just cheats who mess the game up. MC3 comes to mind here.

      • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

        Those are the ones you have to watch out for, people hacking multiplayer games. I have absolutely NOTHING against people using hacks in SP, let them play how they want, but online gaming? That's sacred and shouldn't be messed wtih.

      • dmarcoot

        Your the one full of it. Pirates have made premium games an unsustainable business model. I guess your not a puppet because you wont pay for a game or is it simply because you prefer crippled games that require IAP?

      • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

        Pirates have done no such thing, greed has made freemium the model of choice. RR2 is $10 and that's all you ever pay. RR3 is free but with insanely expensive and restrictive and routinely required IAP that will earn scum like EA significantly more than $10 per game. $4 only gets you enough coins to mitigate a single service wait - so imagine how much money is required to service an entire garage of cars. Constantly. Then the ever-increasing wait times for ANY action you undertake in the game. Still think freemium isn't a cash cow and sole reason for adopting this model? You're a fool.

        So yes, knee-jerk reaction and blaming piracy paints you as a gutless spineless puppet of EA and other whining "piracy is killing us, psst we earned eleventy billion dollars last year" scumbag publishers.

        Oh! One last thing -- that piracy you're so quick to blame as the downfall of gaming? They're the only ones NOT affected by freemium :P Pirates will just use IAP cracking apps and get everything for free -- including the base game too. Pirates lose nothing, legitimate customers lose everything. This is what you vote for each time you blame piracy instead of greedy sickening publishers.

      • http://pinoyteens.net/ PinoyTeens.Net

        Spot on. I just had to jailbreak my iPod touch again and use IAPfree and mess with this games IAPs.

        Good luck to whoever meets my TSM ghost - if it's not just another gimmick. (I installed the game on my old touch 4th gen, with no WIFI) and it still got me some names for TSM. I wonder how they did that.

      • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

        Hehe, yeah, same here --- good luck trying to catch up to my ghost if you can even see him in the distance ^______^

  • fransoccer

    This game is going to be like dungeon hunter it was a great franchise and now turning into crap

  • http://twitter.com/Ju5stin justin

    So did Toucharcade even play the same game?

    "The fear is that EA has tuned the game to be no more than an IAP machine that forces users to pay at every corner, turn, and twist. In the interest of SCIENCE, we decided to see if this was, in fact, the case. Spoiler: it isn't."

    Seems Its OK from their point of view, yet the comments below suggest otherwise.

    • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

      Their own video shows how utterly unfair the IAP stuff is, showing off a six hour "service" wait time despite only racing for less than 30 minutes. Of course they use gold coins to eliminate that wait time, so of course it's "not bad" to them, but when the gold coins run out? Let's see how "fair" it is then.

  • AbsolutePhenom

    I can't believe the amount of cry baby's here. I can't wait for this game!

    • randy gash smasher

      Too true

    • black forest

      You have issue or money ..

    • blackbear219

      I'm looking forward to trying it. If I don't like it, I didn't lose anything. Given its a mobile game that ill only play for a few minutes at a time, I don't expect the waits to bother me much if at all.

    • PureRumble

      Where's the f*cking dislike button in TA app?!?

  • http://twitter.com/iseptimus Paul

    Another thing this misses - any money you put into this game is gone as soon as you delete it. You may do this to free up space, or worse your phone is broken. Cloud save may keep the cars, everything else is lost.

    You will be paying for this game until RR4 if you choose to play it (freudian slip initially had me hold shift down to long and got RR$. Very appropriate!)

  • mudd

    I can maybe wait 2 minutes between races, but what happens when you unlock the top tier cars? Will repairs take 40 minutes? Free to plays tend to make end game quote a chore.

    • mudd

      *quite a chore

    • AbsolutePhenom

      Well when you unlock the top tier cars that means you've already unlocked a whole bunch of other cars too. So go back and play some different races.

      • mudd

        Ah, I was under the impression that tournaments were locked to certain cars, therefore boxing you into IAP. (I don't have the game yet)

      • http://pinoyteens.net/ PinoyTeens.Net

        Tournaments are indeed locked to certain cars.

      • http://twitter.com/sabin1981 Sabin Figaro

        They are. You can't join certain events unless you own certain cars -- oh and yeah, wait until you get some of the later cars, the repair and service times will have you LOLing. 48++++ hours :D

  • http://www.facebook.com/mantanz Karl Burnett

    Beginning to distrust TA reviews more and more. RR3 has been ruined. I deleted it after having to wait for SIX FECKING HOURS to fix my engine. The franchise is ruined and sites like this, who clearly get advertising revenue from companies such as EA aren't ever going to be honest.

  • Illuminerdy

    The podcast is going to be real interesting this week.

  • worldcitizen1919

    A real tragedy for gaming! Great games are being ruined by waiting times imposed with one intention - to blackmail the gamer to fork out more and more $$$$. This is not reasonable, fair or just. Soon restaurants will be charging customers for cutting vegetables and boiling water and electricity use. This has gone beyond ridiculous spurred on by insatiable greed. The world's economy must be on the verge of total collapse for this kind of desperation.

  • kyle_mccall

    Gave it a little spin. It's fun. The drag racing is a nice addition. Haven't put in enough to see if the IAP is going to kill the experience.

  • Cameron Fenton

    They did this because almost no one will pay $20+ for an app. Plain and simple. People want games like this, but they only want to pay .99 cents and that is completely unsustainable. Maybe this will ruin the game for you, but apparently this is what they have to do to make money. It sucks, but I don't see what else developers can do if people aren't willing to pay a reasonable amount for complex games. This way they will get lots of people to spend five or ten dollars, and a fair number who will spend way more than that. I do wish they had the option to pay a large sum ($20-$30) to just remove all of the IAP stuff and make it like the older games, but I guess they think they can make more money this way. We will just have to wait and see if this even bothers the mainstream players. If not, I'm sure their future games will all be like this.

    • Ben Kim

      Square Enix made out relatively well with those Final Fantasy ports and the Chaos RIngs series. So, there IS a market for premium games. I don't mind reasonable IAPs (Anipang on Kakao, Temple Run 1/2) but watching that 30-minute playthrough makes me sick. Gameloft started this ridiculous paywall with Let's Golf 3 back two years ago, then came others like CSR Racing, but this simply takes the cake.

      It will cost more money to unlock all the cars in any reasonable length of time than it would be to buy Forza Horizon with all the DLC. And I'm sorry, Forza Horizon is the better game on a CONSOLE.

      I strongly urge everyone to vote with their wallets and not give a DIME to EA.

      • Cameron Fenton

        That depends on what you mean by 'relatively well'. I've never seen any of those games at #1 or even consistently in the top 10. FFIV was in the top 100 briefly, but it doesn't seem to be now and it's not that old. Most of those games are also ports. I'm sure it costs much more to make RR3 than it does to bring a DS game to the iPad. I don't think IAPs are good for the players, but people have to understand that all EA cares about is the money. You can criticize them for that, but as long as people buy into this stuff it's not going to go away.

      • apolloa

        They could easily charge £7 for the game, even £10 and because of the game that it is it would still be in the top 10, and I have seen those Final Fantasy games in the top 10 or top 20 on the app store before.

  • Errolex

    Fricken ridiculous, had one race at lowest level, servicing my car is gonna take 6...yes SIX hours. Lol, game deleted!

  • apolloa

    It's ironic on this site that some people are blaming the piracy in Android for this freemium model, and the developers blamed piracy in general. Yet people on this site are now gloating how they are using cracks etc on their iOS device to have unlimited gold and these hacks n cracks are being widely used... yeah stop blaming the Android community, and EA stop making BS excuses.

    • johnnyv

      no one likes android.

  • DCver3

    Damn...no battlefield because of Origin and now no more RR series. I hate EA.

  • MarkFromBitmenStudios

    EA has toned down the IAP madness according to Gamasutra acter user backlash. All the 1 star ratings have done their job. Looks the soft launch was there for a reason.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Willy.Chong.Zhi.Wei Chong Zhi Wei

    Hmmm I dorve my Lamborghini Jr Sports Coupe and got my damaged during the race, the repair time was zero and service time was a little more than 5 minutes, I raced with my Nissan GT Jr Coupe and after that race, my Lamborghini was ready to race again. Sure the spray paint uses gold is annoying but so far, I've yet to encounter a dreadful demand pay more real money after I get the pro-dealer package, yeah if you start from free, u guess you have to wait a little bit, but its kinda fun even if you loss bitterly, I have yet to get significant amount of gold medal, and the reward was given to everyone, even for losers. And the service and repair cost is more of a novelty than a complete annoyance once you get two cars above.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Willy.Chong.Zhi.Wei Chong Zhi Wei

    Maybe I got the International launch, which makes the game entirely different from what is initially was, its free to play but I guess there is a catch for it, the reward is kinda stingy, but the reward goes up and not making you burn your wallet form damaging the car. I enjoy the game and so far have not being bog down by all sorts of annoyance previously well known for. I guess all the complaint really make EA and FireMoneky toned down the game to make it playable. Cause I enjoy it so far!

  • http://www.facebook.com/lawrence.monro Lawrence Monro

    Well all your points are vaild, however if you dont play for 2hrs straight youll be fine, cuz i have play 60hrs and havent spent any real money, and you dont have to get all the cars to have fun. Real Racing is an awesome game. Well done EA