This morning in sunny San Francisco, California I lined up ridiculously early for the Apple keynote outside of Moscone. After hours and hours of waiting, we finally filed in to the convention center and up to the massive meeting room to watch Steve Jobs take the stage and officially reveal the new iPhone.

Dubbed the "iPhone 4", it comes packed with the same A4 processor found in the iPad, a new gyroscope sensor, a screen that is 4x the resolution of the existing iPhone, and plenty of other awesome features. From a gaming perspective, the additional horsepower provided by the A4 means much like the iPad, existing games will load up faster as well as have higher frame rates. New iPhone 4-enhanced games will look even better on the device, although I can't wait to see how developers tag these games as "HD" is already in use to signify an iPad game.

The iPhone 4 will debut at $199 and $299 for 16GB or 32GB models, with the iPhone 3GS taking the iPhone 3G's current spot as the $99 "entry level" iPhone. Pre-orders for the new device will begin June 15th, and Apple plans on shipping out the new handsets on June 24th.

Even bigger news is that the iPhone OS is not only officially dubbed "iOS 4", but it will also be available for free, even for iPod touch owners. (Although, unfortunately the first generation iPod touch won't be capable of running iOS4.) This should be a boon for developers, as they will no longer be pressured in to supporting ancient OS versions for the sake of compatibility if everyone can upgrade for free.

We'll be taking an in-depth look at what all of these things mean for us at TouchArcade later today. In the meantime, take a look at the Apple site for the new iPhone and be sure to watch the video.

  • http://forumninja.com Sixline

    I'm curious how the gyroscope will be used. Could make for some interesting games.

    • Sticktron

      It adds more dimensions of control.
      Combined with the other sensors, there are now six axes of control.

  • http://forumninja.com Sixline

    I'm curious how the gyroscope will be used. Could make for some interesting games.

    • Sticktron

      It adds more dimensions of control.
      Combined with the other sensors, there are now six axes of control.

  • VictorXL

    Amazing new features at that price, the Iphone 4 is going to sell like hotcakes. No wonder Apple surpassed Microsoft as the #1 Technology company in the world. They hit home runs with every release.

    • Autobott

      Where did you hear apple was the #1 technology company? I like my iPhone and all but, um, lolwut?

      • Galaxius

        Market Cap they're surpassed them is all :)

  • skamando

    Dear lord, I want one so much.

    • pixelologist

      Yeah. What you said.

  • VictorXL

    Amazing new features at that price, the Iphone 4 is going to sell like hotcakes. No wonder Apple surpassed Microsoft as the #1 Technology company in the world. They hit home runs with every release.

    • Autobott

      Where did you hear apple was the #1 technology company? I like my iPhone and all but, um, lolwut?

      • Galaxius

        Market Cap they're surpassed them is all :)

  • skamando

    Dear lord, I want one so much.

    • pixelologist

      Yeah. What you said.

  • Eric

    That white iPhone would look really good with my white PSP Go. I'd be gaming better than anyone on the go, except for people with the same setup.

    • http://www.podzilla.com.br edo

      yeah! And if the 3GS could already run PSX games with no problem, I wonder what possibilities the new iPhone brings... too bad Apple would never allow an emulator to enter the App Store... but, cydia is there for us!

      • psyc

        There are tons of games the 3GS does not run well on the PSX emu. SOME games work well, but most don't...especially with sound.

  • misfitskater6

    Did Jobs say why they weren't going to have a 64 gig, or something bigger than 32? I can't believe they aren't upping the sizes for this.

    • SalsaMD

      esp with the ability to record HD video...

    • Adams Immersive

      I’m disappointed too—I’m guessing that fitting 64 into the limited available space would have either been impossible or insanely expensive.

      I can live with 32, and what you get for the price has increaded a lot regardless. but 64 would have been great!

      • misfitskater6

        I would have figured they could do it, already having a 64 gig Touch... I guess I can hope that they'll release one sometime, or maybe next year... I don't have a good enough reason to upgrade until they have one.

    • nizy

      I think the touch 64gb has 2 x 32gb chips in it - I guess there isn't room in the iphone 4.

      • Glenn

        I reckon they ain't worried about large hard drives because its all going in the cloud soon as everything will be streaming. Although, i agree, 32 GB max is fairly limiting particularly as it was pointed out about the ability to record HD video. Next update mobile me with iTunes.com... Don't you just hate rumors!!!!

      • Cougarcat

        nizy is right. I'm sure Apple realized it's limiting, but there's nothing they could have done with 64 GB NAND prices the way they are atm. Wait a year.

  • Eric

    That white iPhone would look really good with my white PSP Go. I'd be gaming better than anyone on the go, except for people with the same setup.

    • http://www.podzilla.com.br edo

      yeah! And if the 3GS could already run PSX games with no problem, I wonder what possibilities the new iPhone brings... too bad Apple would never allow an emulator to enter the App Store... but, cydia is there for us!

      • psyc

        There are tons of games the 3GS does not run well on the PSX emu. SOME games work well, but most don't...especially with sound.

  • misfitskater6

    Did Jobs say why they weren't going to have a 64 gig, or something bigger than 32? I can't believe they aren't upping the sizes for this.

    • SalsaMD

      esp with the ability to record HD video...

    • Adams Immersive

      I’m disappointed too—I’m guessing that fitting 64 into the limited available space would have either been impossible or insanely expensive.

      I can live with 32, and what you get for the price has increaded a lot regardless. but 64 would have been great!

      • misfitskater6

        I would have figured they could do it, already having a 64 gig Touch... I guess I can hope that they'll release one sometime, or maybe next year... I don't have a good enough reason to upgrade until they have one.

    • nizy

      I think the touch 64gb has 2 x 32gb chips in it - I guess there isn't room in the iphone 4.

      • Glenn

        I reckon they ain't worried about large hard drives because its all going in the cloud soon as everything will be streaming. Although, i agree, 32 GB max is fairly limiting particularly as it was pointed out about the ability to record HD video. Next update mobile me with iTunes.com... Don't you just hate rumors!!!!

      • Cougarcat

        nizy is right. I'm sure Apple realized it's limiting, but there's nothing they could have done with 64 GB NAND prices the way they are atm. Wait a year.

  • zztfox

    Wonder when they will talk about Ipod Touch 4?

    Would love a 16 GB for $199!

    • Mediocre

      They usually do iPod touch refreshes in the fall.

      • mike

        and thats when Apple will get my credit card details ;)

  • zztfox

    Wonder when they will talk about Ipod Touch 4?

    Would love a 16 GB for $199!

    • Mediocre

      They usually do iPod touch refreshes in the fall.

      • mike

        and thats when Apple will get my credit card details ;)

  • tsharpfilm

    Woo hoo! I guess it's time to unjailbreak the iPod in preparation for iOS4. I'm excited. And I'm glad Lord Jobs isn't making us pay for the upgrade (shouldn't have made us pay the first time....)

  • tsharpfilm

    Woo hoo! I guess it's time to unjailbreak the iPod in preparation for iOS4. I'm excited. And I'm glad Lord Jobs isn't making us pay for the upgrade (shouldn't have made us pay the first time....)

  • Bone

    I say developers tag their apps "HDi".

  • Bone

    I say developers tag their apps "HDi".

  • Exile

    Loving this, but I will have to wait for the iPod touch 4. :(

  • Exile

    Loving this, but I will have to wait for the iPod touch 4. :(

  • Tkun

    ED for enhanced definition would make sense, rather than using HD.

    • swarmster

      What would make sense is for developers to start making universal apps rather than 3 different, yet functionally identical, releases.

      • Mediocre

        Bingo.

    • mike

      Well it wouldn't make sense because.... no one has any idea what ED means. Only snidey geeks whine that the iPad is technically not HD.

  • Tkun

    ED for enhanced definition would make sense, rather than using HD.

    • swarmster

      What would make sense is for developers to start making universal apps rather than 3 different, yet functionally identical, releases.

      • Mediocre

        Bingo.

    • mike

      Well it wouldn't make sense because.... no one has any idea what ED means. Only snidey geeks whine that the iPad is technically not HD.

  • http://apprelease.com RaiderRich721

    Iphone 4 here I come!!!

  • http://apprelease.com RaiderRich721

    Iphone 4 here I come!!!

  • Nicky

    So I can upgrade my iPod touch 3g right now for free? On IOS4

    • SalsaMD

      not until June 21th

  • Nicky

    So I can upgrade my iPod touch 3g right now for free? On IOS4

    • SalsaMD

      not until June 21th

  • Shadowsfall

    I don't think that 64gb of memory won't be used by many people and as said earlier, it may not fit. I'm acually excited about this with more pixels. Visuals are always a plus for me!

    I'm also happy about the new flash being built in for the camera, well... 2 cameras that is. The new visual improvements to the frame itself is outstanding, and how the antennas work.

    Also for additional crazies, "Apples custom A4 chip that’s what. A smaller version of the chip that appears in the iPad will power games capable of high texture detail and geometry that will out perform the PSP without breaking a sweat." (Nigel Wood from Touchgen.com).

    If they're creating a iPod Touch 4, i'm all in for that because I can't cancel my contract from T-Mobile (yet). Developers could get more sales if they create a iPod Touch version so that means... More games, more apps, etc. that are HD

  • Shadowsfall

    I don't think that 64gb of memory won't be used by many people and as said earlier, it may not fit. I'm acually excited about this with more pixels. Visuals are always a plus for me!

    I'm also happy about the new flash being built in for the camera, well... 2 cameras that is. The new visual improvements to the frame itself is outstanding, and how the antennas work.

    Also for additional crazies, "Apples custom A4 chip that’s what. A smaller version of the chip that appears in the iPad will power games capable of high texture detail and geometry that will out perform the PSP without breaking a sweat." (Nigel Wood from Touchgen.com).

    If they're creating a iPod Touch 4, i'm all in for that because I can't cancel my contract from T-Mobile (yet). Developers could get more sales if they create a iPod Touch version so that means... More games, more apps, etc. that are HD

  • PhagoCychotic

    This kinda sucks because I was hoping for a 64 model but my bet is that will be made available for the 2011 model. That size really limits the amount of video that can be recorded.

    Now why didn't the conference mention a Lala.com alternative?!?!?? I miss my lala....

    • Cougarcat

      iTunes.com in September. WWDC is never about music.

      • PhagoCychotic

        Oh thank you, I didn't know that. But September seems so far away and I used to play with lala.com daily. *sigh*

  • PhagoCychotic

    This kinda sucks because I was hoping for a 64 model but my bet is that will be made available for the 2011 model. That size really limits the amount of video that can be recorded.

    Now why didn't the conference mention a Lala.com alternative?!?!?? I miss my lala....

    • Cougarcat

      iTunes.com in September. WWDC is never about music.

      • PhagoCychotic

        Oh thank you, I didn't know that. But September seems so far away and I used to play with lala.com daily. *sigh*

  • postmanmanman

    Sounds great, but as I am still not rich enough to afford the contract (:v) I'll wait until an iPod Touch 4 is announced to get excited.

  • postmanmanman

    Sounds great, but as I am still not rich enough to afford the contract (:v) I'll wait until an iPod Touch 4 is announced to get excited.

  • pachi

    So dissapointed. While Android phones have bigger screens this has the same screen size.
    1. Wanted a 3.7 or higher screen size.
    2. A 64gig versio like the latest ipod touch.
    3. 512 megs of ram.

    • Cougarcat

      1. The resolution more than makes up for it. It's like reading paper.
      2. Not apple's fault. NAND prices haven't fallen, and the 64 GB chip isn't available yet in the quanitites apple would need.
      3. It has 512 MB RAM.

      • Cougarcat

        Edit: I was wrong about 512 MB RAM. We simply don't know yet, Apple hasn't given that information. If it's the same as the iPad, it's 256 MB.

    • pixelologist

      It's kind of funny. When the original iPhone came out there were quite a few folks snickering at how BIG it was. Personally, I wouldn't want the phone to get any wider/taller - at some point it'd become a chore rather than a joy to carry with you everywhere. 3.5 inch at the resolution they've got going there is perfectly fine by me.

  • Slothy

    Any talks of improved battery life?

    • swarmster

      Yes, about 40% if I'm remembering the keynote right.

      • Slothy

        Not bad, so with the new processor and higher rez it's still probably and hour or two on a 3d rich game.

      • sk8erdude50

        yes 40% is correct

      • psyc

        talk time only...check out video and music specs compared to 3gs...it's about the same

      • mike

        300 hrs standby. You guys are biggest haters I've ever seen ...

        "about the same"?

        hahahaha...

  • pachi

    So dissapointed. While Android phones have bigger screens this has the same screen size.
    1. Wanted a 3.7 or higher screen size.
    2. A 64gig versio like the latest ipod touch.
    3. 512 megs of ram.

    • Cougarcat

      1. The resolution more than makes up for it. It's like reading paper.
      2. Not apple's fault. NAND prices haven't fallen, and the 64 GB chip isn't available yet in the quanitites apple would need.
      3. It has 512 MB RAM.

      • Cougarcat

        Edit: I was wrong about 512 MB RAM. We simply don't know yet, Apple hasn't given that information. If it's the same as the iPad, it's 256 MB.

    • pixelologist

      It's kind of funny. When the original iPhone came out there were quite a few folks snickering at how BIG it was. Personally, I wouldn't want the phone to get any wider/taller - at some point it'd become a chore rather than a joy to carry with you everywhere. 3.5 inch at the resolution they've got going there is perfectly fine by me.

  • Slothy

    Any talks of improved battery life?

    • swarmster

      Yes, about 40% if I'm remembering the keynote right.

      • Slothy

        Not bad, so with the new processor and higher rez it's still probably and hour or two on a 3d rich game.

      • sk8erdude50

        yes 40% is correct

      • psyc

        talk time only...check out video and music specs compared to 3gs...it's about the same

      • mike

        300 hrs standby. You guys are biggest haters I've ever seen ...

        "about the same"?

        hahahaha...

  • Slothy

    I also wonder how games out now will look and be displayed on the new high rez screen.

    • LeeDot

      Slothy - It sounds like the screen size is that same as the current batch of iphones so games made for current gen iphones would look exactly like they do right now.

    • Diab

      If it scales well it will have no difference to what you see now, just be 2x2 on the same size screen bit like resizing on the ipad, but keeping the screen at 4 inches instead of 11 or whatever. Native iphone 4 games however will look super smooth and less jaggy.

  • Slothy

    I also wonder how games out now will look and be displayed on the new high rez screen.

    • LeeDot

      Slothy - It sounds like the screen size is that same as the current batch of iphones so games made for current gen iphones would look exactly like they do right now.

    • Diab

      If it scales well it will have no difference to what you see now, just be 2x2 on the same size screen bit like resizing on the ipad, but keeping the screen at 4 inches instead of 11 or whatever. Native iphone 4 games however will look super smooth and less jaggy.

  • Chris

    Apparently, I won't be able to get the new update cuz I have a 1st gen iTouch. In the words of Charlie Brown, "AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!"

    Why can't Apple just let me use the 3G version of the software!?!?

    • Diab

      the 1st gen touch is probably the weakest out of all the devices and also misses a few things like a bluetooth chip, might be other problems too.

      While it's harsh to people who own an old device you have had it for a good 2 or so years now, this way at least will allow newer apps to use powers more accessible to them instead of always making it for the lowest devices out there. The 3g and 2nd gen touch will be next, probably ignored next year onwards.

    • Vegemite

      I have one too and was a little disappointed (though I'll most likely upgrade in September when the new ipod touches come out)

      But it is a slow and outdated device, and it already can't handle lots of games- it's a crapshoot knowing if a new game will work or not when you buy it. It's probably for the best since developers can't be expected to test for antique hardware as well as the latest and greatest.

      So look it it this way, it will still do everything it does now. You're not actually losing anything, you're just hitting the end of the run as far as new games go.

      • Chris

        Yeah, I'll be gatting a new one soon enough, but I just hate it how Apple forces you to upgrade if you want the newest content after less than 2 years.

      • mike

        It's 2010, and I'm also on the iPod touch 1.0.

        You guys are totally crazy if you think you should keep getting software updates... do you have any idea how out of date our hardware is?? You want to try doing multitasking on a 1st Gen iPod touch. Like. WTF?? Android gets new phones every 3 months, and you guys are whining that you might have to replace a PMP from 2008... my god

      • spiffyone

        Except, Mike...ain't really much different between the 1st "gen" iPod touch and the 1st "gen" iPhone. And folks who've cracked their touches have, iirc, had limited multitasking (I could be wrong about that though). Still, if the OG iPhone can run OS4, there really isn't much reason to believe that it's impossible on the OG Touch

  • Chris

    Apparently, I won't be able to get the new update cuz I have a 1st gen iTouch. In the words of Charlie Brown, "AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!"

    Why can't Apple just let me use the 3G version of the software!?!?

    • Diab

      the 1st gen touch is probably the weakest out of all the devices and also misses a few things like a bluetooth chip, might be other problems too.

      While it's harsh to people who own an old device you have had it for a good 2 or so years now, this way at least will allow newer apps to use powers more accessible to them instead of always making it for the lowest devices out there. The 3g and 2nd gen touch will be next, probably ignored next year onwards.

    • Vegemite

      I have one too and was a little disappointed (though I'll most likely upgrade in September when the new ipod touches come out)

      But it is a slow and outdated device, and it already can't handle lots of games- it's a crapshoot knowing if a new game will work or not when you buy it. It's probably for the best since developers can't be expected to test for antique hardware as well as the latest and greatest.

      So look it it this way, it will still do everything it does now. You're not actually losing anything, you're just hitting the end of the run as far as new games go.

      • Chris

        Yeah, I'll be gatting a new one soon enough, but I just hate it how Apple forces you to upgrade if you want the newest content after less than 2 years.

      • mike

        It's 2010, and I'm also on the iPod touch 1.0.

        You guys are totally crazy if you think you should keep getting software updates... do you have any idea how out of date our hardware is?? You want to try doing multitasking on a 1st Gen iPod touch. Like. WTF?? Android gets new phones every 3 months, and you guys are whining that you might have to replace a PMP from 2008... my god

      • spiffyone

        Except, Mike...ain't really much different between the 1st "gen" iPod touch and the 1st "gen" iPhone. And folks who've cracked their touches have, iirc, had limited multitasking (I could be wrong about that though). Still, if the OG iPhone can run OS4, there really isn't much reason to believe that it's impossible on the OG Touch

  • Wes

    I'm just hoping this is released for Verizon as well as At&t becuase my upgrade is coming up around the end of the summer and this would be a reeeally nice thing to upgrade to. Considering the fact that i've already spent quite a bit of money buying apps for my ipod and if I were to get say, a droid, those apps would be useless unless i were to play my ipod again, or hope that they are released onto the android market and have topay all over again. I'm crossing my fingers!

    • Cougarcat

      Crossing them won't do any good. Verizon recently said they aren't getting the iPhone in the "immediate future." Maybe when they stop using CDMA. I don't think Apple wants to make a separate CDMA phone just for Verizon.

  • Wes

    I'm just hoping this is released for Verizon as well as At&t becuase my upgrade is coming up around the end of the summer and this would be a reeeally nice thing to upgrade to. Considering the fact that i've already spent quite a bit of money buying apps for my ipod and if I were to get say, a droid, those apps would be useless unless i were to play my ipod again, or hope that they are released onto the android market and have topay all over again. I'm crossing my fingers!

    • Cougarcat

      Crossing them won't do any good. Verizon recently said they aren't getting the iPhone in the "immediate future." Maybe when they stop using CDMA. I don't think Apple wants to make a separate CDMA phone just for Verizon.

  • mzeb75

    Being a droid user and a former iPhone user it looks neat. The gyroscope could be really interesting. I figured maybe I'd get another contract with AT&T if this phone blew me away. The video chat is cool but that's something I'll personally never use. The video editing is cool as well but again something I don't see myself using. It is a pretty phone but I just don't see any reason right now to invest in it. I use my iPod touch for my games and music. Of course i don't know all the features thus new one will bring but I don't have that " I have to have one!" feeling about this. It'll sell big time no question about it. But for now I guess I'll stick with the droid. Maybe when i see someone with one or if i can get hands on with it I'll take the leap.

  • mzeb75

    Being a droid user and a former iPhone user it looks neat. The gyroscope could be really interesting. I figured maybe I'd get another contract with AT&T if this phone blew me away. The video chat is cool but that's something I'll personally never use. The video editing is cool as well but again something I don't see myself using. It is a pretty phone but I just don't see any reason right now to invest in it. I use my iPod touch for my games and music. Of course i don't know all the features thus new one will bring but I don't have that " I have to have one!" feeling about this. It'll sell big time no question about it. But for now I guess I'll stick with the droid. Maybe when i see someone with one or if i can get hands on with it I'll take the leap.

  • mzeb75

    Forgot to mention I'm actually responding to this win my iPad. So yeah I like new gadgets. Just not blown away by the iPhone.

  • mzeb75

    Forgot to mention I'm actually responding to this win my iPad. So yeah I like new gadgets. Just not blown away by the iPhone.

  • Lord Gek

    The only thing here really grabbing me is OS4 which will soon enough be available to everyone for free!

    So, those playing with the OS4 beta, can I name the folders or am I stuck with its own wondrously "intelligent" name? I better be able to override the name as a zillion folders named "Games" won't do me any fricking good.

    • swarmster

      As demoed in the OS4 announcement, you can easily rename folders. The genre name is just the default, like "New Folder", except, well, more intelligent.

    • PhagoCychotic

      I agree that OS4 looks awesome and I'm psyched that I could still put it on my iPhone 3g (even though w/o multitasking.)

      But what about my iPod Touch 2g? Will OS4 work with that?

  • Lord Gek

    The only thing here really grabbing me is OS4 which will soon enough be available to everyone for free!

    So, those playing with the OS4 beta, can I name the folders or am I stuck with its own wondrously "intelligent" name? I better be able to override the name as a zillion folders named "Games" won't do me any fricking good.

    • swarmster

      As demoed in the OS4 announcement, you can easily rename folders. The genre name is just the default, like "New Folder", except, well, more intelligent.

    • PhagoCychotic

      I agree that OS4 looks awesome and I'm psyched that I could still put it on my iPhone 3g (even though w/o multitasking.)

      But what about my iPod Touch 2g? Will OS4 work with that?

  • http://Wisdominthemind.com adis

    These games are awesome and the graphic is awesome as well,I recently playing them days and nights!,and I definitely agrree what up floor said. I would like to play the game with updated graphics, but then again, I think they game should be "perfect" and faithful to the original. Another I gonna buy some shoes and clothes ,you guys give some advises for me about below websites at ****.Thanks

  • http://Wisdominthemind.com adis

    These games are awesome and the graphic is awesome as well,I recently playing them days and nights!,and I definitely agrree what up floor said. I would like to play the game with updated graphics, but then again, I think they game should be "perfect" and faithful to the original. Another I gonna buy some shoes and clothes ,you guys give some advises for me about below websites at ****.Thanks

  • Hmar9333

    So when's iPad OS4 releasing?

    • Cougarcat

      The 21st, I believe. 3 days before the iPhone comes out.

      • macatron

        Well, actually, it was put out during OS4.0's keynote that the iPad will not be getting the update untill this fall. Now that may have changed, but that was the last official statement that I know of.

  • Hmar9333

    So when's iPad OS4 releasing?

    • Cougarcat

      The 21st, I believe. 3 days before the iPhone comes out.

      • macatron

        Well, actually, it was put out during OS4.0's keynote that the iPad will not be getting the update untill this fall. Now that may have changed, but that was the last official statement that I know of.

  • ultimo

    The free update is only for THT day like it was last year

  • http://doesnothaveoneyet ultimo

    The free update is only for THT day like it was last year

  • Exile

    I wonder how case makers are looking at this. Invisible shield should work great with this though.

    • PhagoCychotic

      I was just looking at the Zagg website this afternoon and they're already selling Shields for iPhone 4.

      I am wondering about cases. The Apple Bumper looks generic and I'm not enamored of the colors available. But if I buy from a different seller, will it interfere with the antenna rim?

  • Exile

    I wonder how case makers are looking at this. Invisible shield should work great with this though.

    • PhagoCychotic

      I was just looking at the Zagg website this afternoon and they're already selling Shields for iPhone 4.

      I am wondering about cases. The Apple Bumper looks generic and I'm not enamored of the colors available. But if I buy from a different seller, will it interfere with the antenna rim?

  • Ultimate Zohan

    ZOHAN WANTS IPOD TOUCH 4G

  • Ultimate Zohan

    ZOHAN WANTS IPOD TOUCH 4G

  • mzeb75

    Oh nice my iPad will be getting a software upgrade?

  • mzeb75

    Oh nice my iPad will be getting a software upgrade?

  • MrMuesli

    You know, the way these phones are touted anyone would think it was the second coming. To mention one 'feature', the 5 mega pixel camera...really? Bog standard Japanese phones have been kitted out with 10 mega pixel camera with flash for quite some time now. It's a good thing for Apple that Japanese phones don't work outside of Japan...

    • MrMuesli

      don't get me wrong though, it's still a nice bit of kit.

  • MrMuesli

    You know, the way these phones are touted anyone would think it was the second coming. To mention one 'feature', the 5 mega pixel camera...really? Bog standard Japanese phones have been kitted out with 10 mega pixel camera with flash for quite some time now. It's a good thing for Apple that Japanese phones don't work outside of Japan...

    • MrMuesli

      don't get me wrong though, it's still a nice bit of kit.

  • http://www.americanelf.com James

    Is there a going to be a new ipod touch with these features? I'd like to video chat with a handheld, but I don't need a phone.

  • http://www.americanelf.com James

    Is there a going to be a new ipod touch with these features? I'd like to video chat with a handheld, but I don't need a phone.