star_defense_icon2One of the big surprises to me in iPhone gaming is how much I’ve been drawn to tower defense games. I never really understood why people were so into them back when the Warcraft III tower defense maps were so popular (and don’t even get me started on Defense of the Ancients) but the iPhone quite literally is the perfect platform for these types of games. Ngmoco's Star Defense [App Store] is the latest in the series of tower defense games for the iPhone and with the Twitter challenge as well as the early review copy I was sent, I’ve managed to sink a ridiculous amount of time into this game.

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The basics of Star Defense are no different from any other tower defender, and if you’re even remotely familiar with the genre you won’t need any explaining to pick it up instantly. You place towers along a path to defend your shield wall from hordes of S’rath invaders, kill them to get credits to buy more towers or upgrade your existing ones, survive for a certain number of waves, and win. Standard stuff.

full-03What sets Star Defense apart from the other tower defense games on the iPhone is having to build your towers on 3D spheres (cubes in later levels) and constantly managing the viewport of the game using standard iPhone gestures. It’s all very intuitive and works exactly as you would expect, pinching controls zooming, a single finger swipe moves the camera, and two fingers on the screen rotates it. Handling the camera creates an effect similar to fog of war in real time strategy games, and as the path the S’rath travel down snakes all over the planet you’re defending, you’re only ever capable of seeing half of it at a time.

Included in the game are five tower types which cover the standard array of towers we’ve seen in other tower defense games. Gauss Turrets serve as the standard low-cost tower, Neo-Plasma Blasters have a damage over time effect, DX-3 Cannons slow enemies, Phase Coils do area effect damage, and Quantum Launchers do high single target damage. Naturally, each can be upgraded, and part of the strategy of Star Defense is deciding when to upgrade and when to build more, as each upgrade is progressively more expensive.

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Additionally, each tower has a damage type which may be more or less effective depending on the enemy. For example, some of the S’rath are resistant to fire, so your massive array of Neo-Plasma Blasters will be rendered ineffective. Obviously this forces you to have a variety of towers, which adds a level of complexity as some tower defense games are just a race to fill up the map with whatever the best tower is fully upgraded.

full-04In this initial offering of Star Defense players can fend off the S’rath across seven different planets, as well as playing an endless Challenge mode. Each planet can be played on three difficulty levels, and I found them to be varied enough that each one required a different strategy to complete. ngmoco previously detailed on their blog about the work that went into balancing the way Star Defense plays, and it really shows.

Playing the game on Easy is, unsurprisingly, very easy. Unless Star Defense is your first tower defense game, I’d recommend starting on Normal. I’ve found Hard to be brutal, and while I haven’t yet broken out the ol’ pad of graph paper to map out some of the levels as I did when competing in the Twitter challenge, I’m getting close to it.

Instead of achievements in Star Defense, you earn commendations. Some of them will be easy and you will earn them without even trying, but others like completing 40 waves without selling any towers or upgrading 1000 towers total will take some work.

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The included galaxy map is a great time, but the Challenge mode is where the meat of the game is going to be for hardcore players looking to compete against friends. This is exactly what we played in the Twitter challenge, so give it a try and see how you could have done against us.

Star Defense was demonstrated during the WWDC 2009 keynote, and towards the end, ngmoco's Stephanie Morgan revealed the ability to (BAM!) add a second galaxy to your pocket via microtransaction downloadable content (DLC) add-on packs. DLC has been a hot topic lately on our forums, and I’ve seen some people suggest that Star Defense is an incomplete game that simply a vehicle to sell things that should have been included in the release.

full-02As I posted in a previous story, this is an area that ngmoco seems to be taking very seriously. I asked several people at the press event what their plans were with DLC and everyone stressed that they were approaching it cautiously, being sure to provide a good value to the gamer, with no intentions to nickel and dime anyone. Morgan mentions in the keynote video that the additional galaxies add tons of gameplay, so I’m having a hard time getting worked up over them selling add-ons for the game if they do in fact substantially increase the originally included playtime. And with that said, Star Defense is certainly a complete game in its current form.

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So I suppose the inevitable question here is do I recommend Star Defense? It is more expensive than its competitors, but it does have all the fit and finish you would expect in an ngmoco game. The 3D graphics are great, the backgrounds are colorful, and I really enjoy the 3D camera management of the game. Star Defense gets incredibly hectic in later levels when multiple waves of S’rath are out at once, as all your towers need to be managed in real time. This is a welcome change from other similar games where you pause, build a few things, wait to get more money, and repeat. Star Defense brings an unexpected level of action to a genre that classically just has you building and waiting.

Because of this, I can’t help but recommend picking up Star Defense. Its classic tower defense gameplay combined with the unique 3D perspective puts Star Defense a step above my 2D tower defense favorites.

Game Details
Name: Star Defense (v1.0) Price: $5.99 [Buy]
Developer: ngmoco Size: 60.8 MB
Device: Tested on iPhone 3G
Star Defense takes the classic tower defense formula and puts a 3D spin on it. The spherical worlds the game takes place on adds a level of fast-paced action and micromanagement not seen in other tower defense games.

Ngmoco and a dozen other companies are presently sponsors of this site, but that does not affect our choice of coverage or influence our reviews.

TouchArcade Rating

  • munkee

    Overrated and overhyped game.
    If you read honest reviews in the forums you'll know it's just a mediocre TD game with gimmicky 3D planet. Big Albie's review is better and more honest than this.

  • http://deleted munkee

    Overrated and overhyped game.
    If you read honest reviews in the forums you'll know it's just a mediocre TD game with gimmicky 3D planet. Big Albie's review is better and more honest than this.

  • Alichan76

    I've got mixed feelings on SD, but on the whole find it to be a relief just to buy a game that you know won't be infested with bugs, spelling errors and so on.
    As innovation goes, the fog of war effect is new, and certainly holds my attention.
    I do wish for 2 thing:
    1) Fast Forward.
    2) An option to have the turrets on the left, as I'm left handed.

  • Alichan76

    I've got mixed feelings on SD, but on the whole find it to be a relief just to buy a game that you know won't be infested with bugs, spelling errors and so on.
    As innovation goes, the fog of war effect is new, and certainly holds my attention.
    I do wish for 2 thing:
    1) Fast Forward.
    2) An option to have the turrets on the left, as I'm left handed.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    It's too bad, but the common wisdom is just true.

    And the CW is this: it's a totally basic, bland, not-new, traditional, un-innovative take on TD with gorgeous graphics and the inability to see the entire map at one time, which is more of a negative in practice than anything else.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    It's too bad, but the common wisdom is just true.

    And the CW is this: it's a totally basic, bland, not-new, traditional, un-innovative take on TD with gorgeous graphics and the inability to see the entire map at one time, which is more of a negative in practice than anything else.

  • http://web.me.com/robertsammons rob s

    is it wrong that I'm finding easy on level 2 hard to complete :/

  • http://web.me.com/robertsammons rob s

    is it wrong that I'm finding easy on level 2 hard to complete :/

  • elbandit

    As good as it looks I still prefer field runner

  • elbandit

    As good as it looks I still prefer field runner

  • randolph

    BAM! Overpriced and gimmicky. Typical ngmoco over-hyped, over-marketed affair. Wake me when it's $.99 or for $2.99 if all the future add-ons are included instead of separate.

  • randolph

    BAM! Overpriced and gimmicky. Typical ngmoco over-hyped, over-marketed affair. Wake me when it's $.99 or for $2.99 if all the future add-ons are included instead of separate.

  • estyst

    it doesn't feel like fast-paced tower defense... it is too slow, towers are placed in strange manner (you can't cluster them), it's not even fun to watch waves of enemies being annihilated (and it's not like they not-serious-enough, see Creeps) because you can't see a thing (you can see 1/2 of them at most... on cubes 1/6...)

    better try geoDefense, Creeps or even Fieldrunners to see what tower-defense-games are all about... Star Defense would be good as child game ("wow, this is my small 3d planet which some bad guys are trying to invade")

    I've spent literally days and weeks to master geoDefense, but I have no interest in further playing Star Defense...

  • estyst

    it doesn't feel like fast-paced tower defense... it is too slow, towers are placed in strange manner (you can't cluster them), it's not even fun to watch waves of enemies being annihilated (and it's not like they not-serious-enough, see Creeps) because you can't see a thing (you can see 1/2 of them at most... on cubes 1/6...)

    better try geoDefense, Creeps or even Fieldrunners to see what tower-defense-games are all about... Star Defense would be good as child game ("wow, this is my small 3d planet which some bad guys are trying to invade")

    I've spent literally days and weeks to master geoDefense, but I have no interest in further playing Star Defense...

  • tadad1

    @randolph

    I could not agree with you more.

  • tadad1

    @randolph

    I could not agree with you more.

  • ajd90

    I actually really enjoy this game. I'm of the people who thought Star Defense could be an incomplete game but I took the plunge and really enjoy it. A slightly disappointing aspect of the game is the turrets don't change in appearance when you upgrade them. All in all a great game and a great review by Eli.

  • ajd90

    I actually really enjoy this game. I'm of the people who thought Star Defense could be an incomplete game but I took the plunge and really enjoy it. A slightly disappointing aspect of the game is the turrets don't change in appearance when you upgrade them. All in all a great game and a great review by Eli.

  • iamPro

    I'm still struggling to like this game.

    Can't help but think it's an over hype.

    I enjoyed other TD's on the iphone, but I haven't gave up on the game just yet.

    Interesting contrast between this and the very conservative review on Zenonia.

  • iamPro

    I'm still struggling to like this game.

    Can't help but think it's an over hype.

    I enjoyed other TD's on the iphone, but I haven't gave up on the game just yet.

    Interesting contrast between this and the very conservative review on Zenonia.

  • http://nodpad.com No DPad

    I'm still disappointed with Star Defense. I was really hoping it'd be a standout game because of all the hype that was generated before. It's still worth buying for TD fans, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely not a must-have.

  • http://nodpad.com No DPad

    I'm still disappointed with Star Defense. I was really hoping it'd be a standout game because of all the hype that was generated before. It's still worth buying for TD fans, don't get me wrong, but it's definitely not a must-have.

  • Web Man

    Definitely an overhyped game.

    It's strange that in most places Star Defense has been getting quite negative reviews. But on websites which have been redecorated in Star Defense artwork it has been getting glowing reviews. I'm sure it's just an odd coincidence and money has played no part. But at the same time it's hard to take a review seriously when it's got paid adverts for the same game all around it.

  • Web Man

    Definitely an overhyped game.

    It's strange that in most places Star Defense has been getting quite negative reviews. But on websites which have been redecorated in Star Defense artwork it has been getting glowing reviews. I'm sure it's just an odd coincidence and money has played no part. But at the same time it's hard to take a review seriously when it's got paid adverts for the same game all around it.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Now the ad crying starts again. Common people, grow up. Everytime the same! There are also other sites which rate that game to heaven, IGN for example.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Now the ad crying starts again. Common people, grow up. Everytime the same! There are also other sites which rate that game to heaven, IGN for example.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    And, can we please stop referring to the 3D planet as a "fog of war" effect? With fog of war you cannot see what is happening on part of the map, and that affects your strategy. But with SD, you CAN see everything, just with mad finger-flicking.

    So, in effect it's much more like a MAP WITH A BROKEN ZOOM that never goes beyond 50%, forcing you to move it around all the time to see the whole thing.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    And, can we please stop referring to the 3D planet as a "fog of war" effect? With fog of war you cannot see what is happening on part of the map, and that affects your strategy. But with SD, you CAN see everything, just with mad finger-flicking.

    So, in effect it's much more like a MAP WITH A BROKEN ZOOM that never goes beyond 50%, forcing you to move it around all the time to see the whole thing.

  • Presnter

    Hmm, I like hearing from both sides. It looks really cool, but I will wait to try out the lite version first.

  • Presnter

    Hmm, I like hearing from both sides. It looks really cool, but I will wait to try out the lite version first.

  • Alza

    Wow how predictable. Ngmoco release a top-class game, promote it, get well-deserved positive reviews, and then the haters come out.
    Reading the review, you can almost tell at the end that Eli is trying to lessen his own enthusiasm because of the inevitable backlash.
    Seriously people, if you don't enjoy ngmoco's games, that's fine, but don't go insinuating that TA has been bought out every time they get a good review.
    Go elsewhere if you don't trust the reviews here.
    I'm a fan of both TA and ngmoco, and no-one's paying me

  • Alza

    Wow how predictable. Ngmoco release a top-class game, promote it, get well-deserved positive reviews, and then the haters come out.
    Reading the review, you can almost tell at the end that Eli is trying to lessen his own enthusiasm because of the inevitable backlash.
    Seriously people, if you don't enjoy ngmoco's games, that's fine, but don't go insinuating that TA has been bought out every time they get a good review.
    Go elsewhere if you don't trust the reviews here.
    I'm a fan of both TA and ngmoco, and no-one's paying me

  • Alichan76

    @zak,
    In answer to your question...um....no! People call it a fog of war 'effect', or 'psuedo' fog of war, to distinguish it from the 'real thing'. It has a similar effect in my view, and is a welcome addition.

  • Alichan76

    @zak,
    In answer to your question...um....no! People call it a fog of war 'effect', or 'psuedo' fog of war, to distinguish it from the 'real thing'. It has a similar effect in my view, and is a welcome addition.

  • kysr

    I bought it, I played it, and I deleted it. It is a nice concept, but not so much fun. I regret that I bought it on the first day, before reading the comments...

  • kysr

    I bought it, I played it, and I deleted it. It is a nice concept, but not so much fun. I regret that I bought it on the first day, before reading the comments...

  • André

    Star Defense is a great game, but i was expecting more. I think the game is a little slow, to to "higher waves" is takes way to long, and it also doesnt have that kind of "action feeling". Also they should have put the game on sale for the release, as this price is too expensive. Overall i think it is a mustbuy for TD fans, but it isnt the best one (for me GeoDefense is way better).
    By the way, I bought an 15U$ Itunes Card to buy Star Defense, and after buying Star Defense i read some topics here and decided to try Defender Chronicles. For my surprise, this game that i had no expectations far surpassed what i expected from StarDefense. DC is an awesome TD game, fast, great visuals, balanced gameplay and a twist that in fact CHANGES de way you play (not some gimmic like StarDefense).

  • André

    Star Defense is a great game, but i was expecting more. I think the game is a little slow, to to "higher waves" is takes way to long, and it also doesnt have that kind of "action feeling". Also they should have put the game on sale for the release, as this price is too expensive. Overall i think it is a mustbuy for TD fans, but it isnt the best one (for me GeoDefense is way better).
    By the way, I bought an 15U$ Itunes Card to buy Star Defense, and after buying Star Defense i read some topics here and decided to try Defender Chronicles. For my surprise, this game that i had no expectations far surpassed what i expected from StarDefense. DC is an awesome TD game, fast, great visuals, balanced gameplay and a twist that in fact CHANGES de way you play (not some gimmic like StarDefense).

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    Alza,

    Does it not occur to you that someone can just plain not like the game?

    Don't get all dramatic about Ngmoco-haters and accusations of TouchArcade being biased because of advertising. Only one or two people brought up these issues out of many, many posts.

    Ngmoco is fine and TouchArcade is fine. StarDefense is just a big let-down, that's all. Don't make negative comments about a game more than just that: disappointment in a friggin' tower defense game (who cares?).

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    Alza,

    Does it not occur to you that someone can just plain not like the game?

    Don't get all dramatic about Ngmoco-haters and accusations of TouchArcade being biased because of advertising. Only one or two people brought up these issues out of many, many posts.

    Ngmoco is fine and TouchArcade is fine. StarDefense is just a big let-down, that's all. Don't make negative comments about a game more than just that: disappointment in a friggin' tower defense game (who cares?).

  • http://www.peitsch.de Sebastian

    Haters?

    Let's just cite the reason why this game is recommended:

    "Star Defense gets incredibly hectic in later levels when multiple waves of S’rath are out at once, as all your towers need to be managed in real time"

    That is, excuse my french, frakking crap. The game is recommendable because it becomes HECTIC? Are you freaking kidding me? The "welcome change from other TD games" is that you start having a hard time managing all the towers?

    Last time I checked the idea behind TD games was STRATEGY and an overall gameplan. A german review site, after about 30 minutes into the game, already mentioned that all you do in Star Defense is rotating the planet to simply see what's going on. I think this is the primary nack in this game - why the hell would you decide on hiding parts of the playing field from the player? The reason why this game becomes hectic is because you are permanently rolling the planets and cubes like a hamster in a wheel to only see what's going on. This is not a feature but a major design-flaw. The reason why it's not fast-paced at the beginning is because the flaw in design demanded a slower game for the player to be simply able to play. The reason why it becomes hectic in later levels is because the designflaw more and more moves into the foreground when you add more enemies, more winding paths over the planets and cubes and overall micromanagement in terms of rotating like a maniac.

    This "review" is in itself a slap into the face of every fan of toucharcade. I'll stop reading the front page and focus om the forums from now on.

  • http://www.peitsch.de Sebastian

    Haters?

    Let's just cite the reason why this game is recommended:

    "Star Defense gets incredibly hectic in later levels when multiple waves of S’rath are out at once, as all your towers need to be managed in real time"

    That is, excuse my french, frakking crap. The game is recommendable because it becomes HECTIC? Are you freaking kidding me? The "welcome change from other TD games" is that you start having a hard time managing all the towers?

    Last time I checked the idea behind TD games was STRATEGY and an overall gameplan. A german review site, after about 30 minutes into the game, already mentioned that all you do in Star Defense is rotating the planet to simply see what's going on. I think this is the primary nack in this game - why the hell would you decide on hiding parts of the playing field from the player? The reason why this game becomes hectic is because you are permanently rolling the planets and cubes like a hamster in a wheel to only see what's going on. This is not a feature but a major design-flaw. The reason why it's not fast-paced at the beginning is because the flaw in design demanded a slower game for the player to be simply able to play. The reason why it becomes hectic in later levels is because the designflaw more and more moves into the foreground when you add more enemies, more winding paths over the planets and cubes and overall micromanagement in terms of rotating like a maniac.

    This "review" is in itself a slap into the face of every fan of toucharcade. I'll stop reading the front page and focus om the forums from now on.

  • Web Man

    Alichan76 said: "Seriously people, if you don't enjoy ngmoco's games, that's fine, but don't go insinuating that TA has been bought out every time they get a good review."

    I say you're completely missing the point! The point is that people don't know whether to enjoy the game or not because review sites lose a certain amount of credibility by being seen to sing the praises of a game they are very prominently advertising at the same time. It casts doubt over how truthful the reviewer is being.

  • Web Man

    Alichan76 said: "Seriously people, if you don't enjoy ngmoco's games, that's fine, but don't go insinuating that TA has been bought out every time they get a good review."

    I say you're completely missing the point! The point is that people don't know whether to enjoy the game or not because review sites lose a certain amount of credibility by being seen to sing the praises of a game they are very prominently advertising at the same time. It casts doubt over how truthful the reviewer is being.

  • it's friday man

    Wow, you can certainly tell it's friday today :p Hard week, everyone?

    Reviewer likes the game, so writes a nice review. Some people don't like so say so. All's fair.

    Throwing stones at soft targets (advertising?) is pointless. Anyone who feels that way you may as well give up reading anything containing advertising.

    TA is a good spot for objectivism... but it's not just the front page articles but the discussion that follows. When the discussion turns into a childish tirade though, then yeah it becomes valueless.

    Don't buy just on one guy's reviews unless you've got the patience to spare for possible disappointment - taking someone else's point of view is ALWAYS a risk - read the full story. The discussion.

    Now, it's Friday so go to the pub. Or play outside. Or something...anything...just...chill.

  • it's friday man

    Wow, you can certainly tell it's friday today :p Hard week, everyone?

    Reviewer likes the game, so writes a nice review. Some people don't like so say so. All's fair.

    Throwing stones at soft targets (advertising?) is pointless. Anyone who feels that way you may as well give up reading anything containing advertising.

    TA is a good spot for objectivism... but it's not just the front page articles but the discussion that follows. When the discussion turns into a childish tirade though, then yeah it becomes valueless.

    Don't buy just on one guy's reviews unless you've got the patience to spare for possible disappointment - taking someone else's point of view is ALWAYS a risk - read the full story. The discussion.

    Now, it's Friday so go to the pub. Or play outside. Or something...anything...just...chill.

  • Alichan76

    @WebMan
    Um, no I didn't say that. Alza did. I suppose the first 2 letters of our name are same:/

  • Alichan76

    @WebMan
    Um, no I didn't say that. Alza did. I suppose the first 2 letters of our name are same:/

  • Web Man

    Yes, my apologies to you Alichan76

  • Web Man

    Yes, my apologies to you Alichan76

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Just downloaded the game because of the discussion.
    And at the moment I'm blown away. They take the TD core but present it in such another level. The music and sound alone would be worth 5 bucks! The controls are perfect, the graphic smooth and awesome. With headphones on, this experience is like watching a perfect movie. There are very few games which reach SUCH a fantastic atmosphere. Strange, in times of fieldrunners first days EVERYBODY loved it (besides some, me included), even if there was nothing but a nice presentation. Now ngmoco brings a simple yet fantastic TD experience and everybody is complaining.... strange, isn't it?

    I'm totally stunned by this game. The music on the fourth planet...makes me speechless.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Just downloaded the game because of the discussion.
    And at the moment I'm blown away. They take the TD core but present it in such another level. The music and sound alone would be worth 5 bucks! The controls are perfect, the graphic smooth and awesome. With headphones on, this experience is like watching a perfect movie. There are very few games which reach SUCH a fantastic atmosphere. Strange, in times of fieldrunners first days EVERYBODY loved it (besides some, me included), even if there was nothing but a nice presentation. Now ngmoco brings a simple yet fantastic TD experience and everybody is complaining.... strange, isn't it?

    I'm totally stunned by this game. The music on the fourth planet...makes me speechless.

  • CA_dude

    I'll buy it when it drops to $0.99. Just like Peggle.

  • CA_dude

    I'll buy it when it drops to $0.99. Just like Peggle.

  • Adams Immersive

    Whether it breaks all-new ground or is just another fun conventional TD with a single twist and great graphics, either way makes it worth having to me! $6 for a game like this is nothing. You couldn't buy a hamster leash for that! I plan to get it. I won't say it's the FIRST TD I would recommend. We'll see once I play it. I'm a real fan of 7 Cities, Dungeon Defense, ElementalMonster and geoDefense (among others). But this seems to offer plenty to earn a place in my TD collection. The iPhone is indeed the perfect platform for these!

    I've come to divide TD into groups on two axes: one is open (like Fieldrunners) vs. maze (like most others). I like both, but somehow I prefer mazes.

    The other axis is pause-play vs. arcade action. GeoDefense, TowerMadness and Star Defense all make you place towers in realtime, and it's a different, action-oriented feel. I like the conventional pause-play style better for casual pick-up-and-play, but the realtime ones can be even more rewarding and exciting.

  • Adams Immersive

    Whether it breaks all-new ground or is just another fun conventional TD with a single twist and great graphics, either way makes it worth having to me! $6 for a game like this is nothing. You couldn't buy a hamster leash for that! I plan to get it. I won't say it's the FIRST TD I would recommend. We'll see once I play it. I'm a real fan of 7 Cities, Dungeon Defense, ElementalMonster and geoDefense (among others). But this seems to offer plenty to earn a place in my TD collection. The iPhone is indeed the perfect platform for these!

    I've come to divide TD into groups on two axes: one is open (like Fieldrunners) vs. maze (like most others). I like both, but somehow I prefer mazes.

    The other axis is pause-play vs. arcade action. GeoDefense, TowerMadness and Star Defense all make you place towers in realtime, and it's a different, action-oriented feel. I like the conventional pause-play style better for casual pick-up-and-play, but the realtime ones can be even more rewarding and exciting.

  • http://aaronhalford.com Aaron

    Just came back from the forum thread. Very interesting comments there, with most people disliking the game.

    However, almost every time in the history of this site the front page review has linked to the comments (good or bad) from the forum if they exist.

    Notice this review does not link to the multi-page forum thread? Yep.

    Good game touch arcade. This is as bad as G4's X-Play and their 5/5 star review of XIII.

  • iamPro

    Played the game some more. Honestly, the game is growing on me little by little.

    Btw, I don't think any accusations of TA being bought out for any good review is fair. It's hard to dismiss the fact that TA is one of the most comprehensive and active apple game app site.

    Personally, accusations and advertisings aside, I just thought it was interesting that the review felt so much more excited over this in comparison to another game that I fell in love instantly... which is just another way of stating how people's preferences and tastes can differ. And isn't stating ones opinion what blogs and forums are for?

    So lets just chill out on any accusations based on mere thoughts.

  • http://aaronhalford.com Aaron

    Just came back from the forum thread. Very interesting comments there, with most people disliking the game.

    However, almost every time in the history of this site the front page review has linked to the comments (good or bad) from the forum if they exist.

    Notice this review does not link to the multi-page forum thread? Yep.

    Good game touch arcade. This is as bad as G4's X-Play and their 5/5 star review of XIII.

  • iamPro

    Played the game some more. Honestly, the game is growing on me little by little.

    Btw, I don't think any accusations of TA being bought out for any good review is fair. It's hard to dismiss the fact that TA is one of the most comprehensive and active apple game app site.

    Personally, accusations and advertisings aside, I just thought it was interesting that the review felt so much more excited over this in comparison to another game that I fell in love instantly... which is just another way of stating how people's preferences and tastes can differ. And isn't stating ones opinion what blogs and forums are for?

    So lets just chill out on any accusations based on mere thoughts.

  • Cornomaniac

    I gotta say, I am sorely disappointed with this game. It's simply not as fun as any other TD game out there, and the planet rotating is just a gimmick. There are also a lot of frustrations, such as not being able to cluster towers together. I would recommend any other TD game to a person who wants to get a TD game (such as 7 Cities, geoDefense, Fieldrunners, etc.)

  • Cornomaniac

    I gotta say, I am sorely disappointed with this game. It's simply not as fun as any other TD game out there, and the planet rotating is just a gimmick. There are also a lot of frustrations, such as not being able to cluster towers together. I would recommend any other TD game to a person who wants to get a TD game (such as 7 Cities, geoDefense, Fieldrunners, etc.)

  • Kollin

    I haven't bought Star Defense yet, but I have already tied from it. Star Defense on every TD page, Star Defense is here, Star Defense is there and the review places on a whole page. I think there are the other interesting games. Hmm

  • Kollin

    I haven't bought Star Defense yet, but I have already tied from it. Star Defense on every TD page, Star Defense is here, Star Defense is there and the review places on a whole page. I think there are the other interesting games. Hmm

  • PwnBunny

    Agreed; a disappointing version of TD. Also a disappointment from TouchArcade; I'll be more skeptical of their positive reviews in the future.

  • PwnBunny

    Agreed; a disappointing version of TD. Also a disappointment from TouchArcade; I'll be more skeptical of their positive reviews in the future.

  • crappy

    Yeah, I was wondering why there was no link to the forum thread included with this article, too.

    Also: "Reviewer likes the game, so writes a nice review. Some people don't like so say so. All's fair. "

    No, the problem is the reviewer either was influenced to write a positive review or has no business reviewing TD games.

  • crappy

    Yeah, I was wondering why there was no link to the forum thread included with this article, too.

    Also: "Reviewer likes the game, so writes a nice review. Some people don't like so say so. All's fair. "

    No, the problem is the reviewer either was influenced to write a positive review or has no business reviewing TD games.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    As I said, simply grow up....
    This is pure kindergarden. The game is fantastic, but perhaps not everyone's taste (as with EVERY game). But what is happening here, is just silly!

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    As I said, simply grow up....
    This is pure kindergarden. The game is fantastic, but perhaps not everyone's taste (as with EVERY game). But what is happening here, is just silly!

  • DannyV

    @CA_dude
    Completely agree lol, I'm guessing it'll be at that price in less then a month. How do I know this you ask? Do I know the future or is it just because it happens over and over? I personally like the "me knowing the future" thing but, well, we all know that's not true.

  • DannyV

    @CA_dude
    Completely agree lol, I'm guessing it'll be at that price in less then a month. How do I know this you ask? Do I know the future or is it just because it happens over and over? I personally like the "me knowing the future" thing but, well, we all know that's not true.

  • thebleeptruth

    Thought that it was overhyped as early as a couple of months ago. First of all, I don't like to idea of rotating worlds. It's not realistic. Well ya the other TD's aren't realistic too duh!, but I mean it just isn't right - the whole world thing. I mean so the planets are THAT small? Anyway sorry no plans of buying this. Even if it goes down to .99, I still might take a pass. I'm still waiting for that nice space/sci-fi themed TD. Maybe one with mechs ala front-mission or something. Or maybe a TD that adds something new and worthwhile, and not that fog of war. Don't get me wrong, Star Defense is a decent game. But it came too late. I enjoy geodefense, fieldrunners, the creeps, and 7 cities more than this. And I never realized it was made by ngmoco. Not really a big fan (Topple is another overrated game) of them.

  • thebleeptruth

    Thought that it was overhyped as early as a couple of months ago. First of all, I don't like to idea of rotating worlds. It's not realistic. Well ya the other TD's aren't realistic too duh!, but I mean it just isn't right - the whole world thing. I mean so the planets are THAT small? Anyway sorry no plans of buying this. Even if it goes down to .99, I still might take a pass. I'm still waiting for that nice space/sci-fi themed TD. Maybe one with mechs ala front-mission or something. Or maybe a TD that adds something new and worthwhile, and not that fog of war. Don't get me wrong, Star Defense is a decent game. But it came too late. I enjoy geodefense, fieldrunners, the creeps, and 7 cities more than this. And I never realized it was made by ngmoco. Not really a big fan (Topple is another overrated game) of them.

  • thebleeptruth

    By the way just wanted to say i was not at all surprised that 90% of the comments here refer to this game as overhyped/overrated.

  • thebleeptruth

    By the way just wanted to say i was not at all surprised that 90% of the comments here refer to this game as overhyped/overrated.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    @oliath Because this anti-ngmoco movement doesn't happen the first time!
    It seems just fun for a group to ride on that hater wave, right?
    Strangely, I love this game. The production value is one of the best in the whole app store and the game delivers the same basic but perfectly leveled TD challenge than fieldrunners. But the presentation is one step further....
    But as I stated, ngmoco bashing seems to be fun. One of the few companies who REALLY care about this device... And if Eli likes it, as I do? What's wrong about that? There are also other sites rating this game great, and??

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    @oliath Because this anti-ngmoco movement doesn't happen the first time!
    It seems just fun for a group to ride on that hater wave, right?
    Strangely, I love this game. The production value is one of the best in the whole app store and the game delivers the same basic but perfectly leveled TD challenge than fieldrunners. But the presentation is one step further....
    But as I stated, ngmoco bashing seems to be fun. One of the few companies who REALLY care about this device... And if Eli likes it, as I do? What's wrong about that? There are also other sites rating this game great, and??

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Same will happen to Rolando 2... then all the haters will crawl out of their holes to bash it in here...we will see ;)

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    Same will happen to Rolando 2... then all the haters will crawl out of their holes to bash it in here...we will see ;)

  • Web Man

    Your Personal Robot said: "As I said, simply grow up….
    This is pure kindergarden. The game is fantastic, but perhaps not everyone's taste (as with EVERY game). But what is happening here, is just silly!"

    You might dismiss it as silly but others will consider it to be a genuine concern. The adverts v editorial issue comes down to what TA wants to be. If it wants to be seen as a legitimate source of journalism on iPhone gaming and a reliable expert in its field then it needs to avoid any conflicts of interest. If it's happy to be seen simply as a mouthpiece for certain developers and advertisers then of course carry on running glowing reviews from companies who have blanket advertising on the site.

    In this particular case I'm not too fussed about what TA thinks of the game. I've already decided having read numerous impartial reviews that Star Defense is a mediocre game which I should avoid.

  • Web Man

    Your Personal Robot said: "As I said, simply grow up….
    This is pure kindergarden. The game is fantastic, but perhaps not everyone's taste (as with EVERY game). But what is happening here, is just silly!"

    You might dismiss it as silly but others will consider it to be a genuine concern. The adverts v editorial issue comes down to what TA wants to be. If it wants to be seen as a legitimate source of journalism on iPhone gaming and a reliable expert in its field then it needs to avoid any conflicts of interest. If it's happy to be seen simply as a mouthpiece for certain developers and advertisers then of course carry on running glowing reviews from companies who have blanket advertising on the site.

    In this particular case I'm not too fussed about what TA thinks of the game. I've already decided having read numerous impartial reviews that Star Defense is a mediocre game which I should avoid.

  • it's friday man

    I'm going to make a paint-by-numbers game based around Halo, and I don't want to hear any complaints people.

    I find it rather disappointing that so many people are anti-innovation. No wonder there's so much crap on the app store, it's because the majority are happy to pay for the same thing over and over.

    Just because it's not your flavour doesn't give you just cause to slag it off. Don't walk into a sweet shop throwing all the raspberry bubble gum off the shelves because you prefer strawberry :p

  • it's friday man

    I'm going to make a paint-by-numbers game based around Halo, and I don't want to hear any complaints people.

    I find it rather disappointing that so many people are anti-innovation. No wonder there's so much crap on the app store, it's because the majority are happy to pay for the same thing over and over.

    Just because it's not your flavour doesn't give you just cause to slag it off. Don't walk into a sweet shop throwing all the raspberry bubble gum off the shelves because you prefer strawberry :p

  • Web Man

    "There are also other sites rating this game great, and??"

    And most of them also have very prominent ngmoco advertising too.

    "Because this anti-ngmoco movement doesn't happen the first time!"

    I have no feelings whatsoever towards ngmoco. The only game of theirs I have played is Word Fu, which is very good. My opinion on Star Defense is based on the game not the developer - you seem to have a preconception of the very people you're accusing of having preconceptions!

  • Web Man

    "There are also other sites rating this game great, and??"

    And most of them also have very prominent ngmoco advertising too.

    "Because this anti-ngmoco movement doesn\'t happen the first time!"

    I have no feelings whatsoever towards ngmoco. The only game of theirs I have played is Word Fu, which is very good. My opinion on Star Defense is based on the game not the developer - you seem to have a preconception of the very people you\'re accusing of having preconceptions!

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    "I've already decided having read numerous impartial reviews that Star Defense is a mediocre game which I should avoid."
    I'm glad you know exactly about what you speak...nice :)
    If there is one day a crappy dev team advertising a really crappy game on TA and TA says "Wow, a wonder of a game"...then I would get suspicious. But this is just a general ngmoco war. Why can't Eli love the game as others do?

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    "I've already decided having read numerous impartial reviews that Star Defense is a mediocre game which I should avoid."
    I'm glad you know exactly about what you speak...nice :)
    If there is one day a crappy dev team advertising a really crappy game on TA and TA says "Wow, a wonder of a game"...then I would get suspicious. But this is just a general ngmoco war. Why can't Eli love the game as others do?

  • arn

    Hi all,

    This site accepts advertising. We are the largest iPhone gaming site around and a lot of the big title games have advertising now and in the future. Ngmoco, Chillingo, Freeverse, for example, are amongst regular advertisers.

    I am confident that our coverage is not influenced by our advertising, and Eli Hodapp (this reviewer) is a freelancer, and his compensation is uninfluenced by any advertising deals. I understand there may always be concerns about ad-influenced opinions in any review-industry, and whatever I say, I won't be able to convince those that are most suspicious. If you don't trust our reviews, I suggest you find another review site, though in my brief search just now, you'll be hard pressed to find a review site that has given this game a negative review.

    Please keep this discussion limited to the game (positive or negative) but if you want to discuss advertising issues and this site, continue that here: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=297268#post297268

    Arnold Kim
    TouchArcade.com editor

  • arn

    Hi all,

    This site accepts advertising. We are the largest iPhone gaming site around and a lot of the big title games have advertising now and in the future. Ngmoco, Chillingo, Freeverse, for example, are amongst regular advertisers.

    I am confident that our coverage is not influenced by our advertising, and Eli Hodapp (this reviewer) is a freelancer, and his compensation is uninfluenced by any advertising deals. I understand there may always be concerns about ad-influenced opinions in any review-industry, and whatever I say, I won't be able to convince those that are most suspicious. If you don't trust our reviews, I suggest you find another review site, though in my brief search just now, you'll be hard pressed to find a review site that has given this game a negative review.

    Please keep this discussion limited to the game (positive or negative) but if you want to discuss advertising issues and this site, continue that here: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=297268#post297268

    Arnold Kim
    TouchArcade.com editor

  • Web Man

    "I find it rather disappointing that so many people are anti-innovation"

    Where is the innovation in Star Defense, other than its 3D graphics? From where I'm sitting it looks more like bandwagon-jumping than innovating. Using your flavours analogy, they've come up with a new kind of raspberry bubblegum, but it's still raspberry bubblegum.

  • Web Man

    "I find it rather disappointing that so many people are anti-innovation"

    Where is the innovation in Star Defense, other than its 3D graphics? From where I'm sitting it looks more like bandwagon-jumping than innovating. Using your flavours analogy, they've come up with a new kind of raspberry bubblegum, but it's still raspberry bubblegum.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    "Using your flavours analogy, they've come up with a new kind of raspberry bubblegum, but it's still raspberry bubblegum."
    But the most delicious of all ;) Thanks arn for stopping by.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    "Using your flavours analogy, they've come up with a new kind of raspberry bubblegum, but it's still raspberry bubblegum."
    But the most delicious of all ;) Thanks arn for stopping by.

  • it's friday man

    @Webman
    "Where is the innovation in Star Defense"

    The interface.

    You only need one new element to make an enormous amount of work for yourself - that alone is a bold move for anyone making a game, I can tell you.

    There are big financial risks involved in high standards of production, and such risks deserve constructive criticism, not slagging off, because the former can lead to progress and better things, whereas the latter just goes into vacuum. Not to mention it's going to make the folk who put all this effort into their work in HOPE that you might like it (there are never guarantees, we all know that) feel like utter crap.

    It's so easy to throw insults on the web, it brings out peoples' true colours... now *that* is disappointing.

  • it's friday man

    @Webman
    "Where is the innovation in Star Defense"

    The interface.

    You only need one new element to make an enormous amount of work for yourself - that alone is a bold move for anyone making a game, I can tell you.

    There are big financial risks involved in high standards of production, and such risks deserve constructive criticism, not slagging off, because the former can lead to progress and better things, whereas the latter just goes into vacuum. Not to mention it's going to make the folk who put all this effort into their work in HOPE that you might like it (there are never guarantees, we all know that) feel like utter crap.

    It's so easy to throw insults on the web, it brings out peoples' true colours... now *that* is disappointing.

  • Web Man

    Thanks for the response AM. I have always trusted every review from TA. In fact some of my favourite games of all time have been bought after reading TA reviews. Adverts around the page are one thing, but in this case I find that having a review on a page where the entire background is an advert for the same game is just a bit too commercial.

    To It's Friday Man - I'm not aware of having signed any contract which stipulates only nice comments are allowed here in case the feelings of any game developers get hurt. I don't see how ngmoco have taken a risk or done anything bold by releasing yet another TD game into an already saturated genre, regardless of high production values. In in any case whatever risk they might take is done in the hope of making lots of money for themselves. That's why they're in the business. Let's not pretend their is any sort of a noble cause at work here. If you want constructive criticism then it would be to find an original concept instead of putting out any more TD games.

  • Web Man

    Thanks for the response AM. I have always trusted every review from TA. In fact some of my favourite games of all time have been bought after reading TA reviews. Adverts around the page are one thing, but in this case I find that having a review on a page where the entire background is an advert for the same game is just a bit too commercial.

    To It's Friday Man - I'm not aware of having signed any contract which stipulates only nice comments are allowed here in case the feelings of any game developers get hurt. I don't see how ngmoco have taken a risk or done anything bold by releasing yet another TD game into an already saturated genre, regardless of high production values. In in any case whatever risk they might take is done in the hope of making lots of money for themselves. That's why they're in the business. Let's not pretend their is any sort of a noble cause at work here. If you want constructive criticism then it would be to find an original concept instead of putting out any more TD games.

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    But everyone is jumping high, if id releases DOOM 54 :)

  • http://www.yourpersonalrobot.com your personal robot

    But everyone is jumping high, if id releases DOOM 54 :)

  • Kita

    Fun game but not worth 6 dollars compared to the competition. Imo most great games are underpriced to compete but ngmoco seems to be big on hyping and getting famous "internet celebrities" (kevin rose, ijustine) to tweet about their games.

  • Kita

    Fun game but not worth 6 dollars compared to the competition. Imo most great games are underpriced to compete but ngmoco seems to be big on hyping and getting famous "internet celebrities" (kevin rose, ijustine) to tweet about their games.

  • menom

    Hmmm. Sad to see distrust of a review here - personally I have complete faith in those who review here as they've recommended apps which turned out as good as they said

    It's true that it's concernng to have wall to wall ads around a review - but I truly believe that the reviewers here would never hype a game as they seem very intelligent - they'd have to be stupid to recommend a bad app as it's obvious that all those who bought the app on basis of review would stop coming here for reviews afterwards

    Some of the people posting here are very childish and that's why I'm posting less here than when I first discovered the place.

    Just because you don't agree with a review doesn't mean it wrong

    • jon

      "Just because you don't agree with a review doesn't mean it wrong"

      Isn't that obvious? We are talking about opinions here. There isn't a factual right and wrong, we can all agree with that. But like all opinions we can come to a consensus. If people decide they don't like the game and disagree they can say so. If enough people agree that the game is so-so then we can say the review is "off."

      That is what seems to be happening here.

  • menom

    Hmmm. Sad to see distrust of a review here - personally I have complete faith in those who review here as they've recommended apps which turned out as good as they said

    It's true that it's concernng to have wall to wall ads around a review - but I truly believe that the reviewers here would never hype a game as they seem very intelligent - they'd have to be stupid to recommend a bad app as it's obvious that all those who bought the app on basis of review would stop coming here for reviews afterwards

    Some of the people posting here are very childish and that's why I'm posting less here than when I first discovered the place.

    Just because you don't agree with a review doesn't mean it wrong

    • jon

      "Just because you don't agree with a review doesn't mean it wrong"

      Isn't that obvious? We are talking about opinions here. There isn't a factual right and wrong, we can all agree with that. But like all opinions we can come to a consensus. If people decide they don't like the game and disagree they can say so. If enough people agree that the game is so-so then we can say the review is "off."

      That is what seems to be happening here.

  • Billy

    Well said, menom.

    Like Arn said, the cynics are completely free to go to other sites if they don't like the way this site is being run. I have read many of Eli's reviews on the main page as well as in the forum section and I have found them to be informative, thoughtful, and well-written.

  • Billy

    Well said, menom.

    Like Arn said, the cynics are completely free to go to other sites if they don't like the way this site is being run. I have read many of Eli's reviews on the main page as well as in the forum section and I have found them to be informative, thoughtful, and well-written.

  • Dark NRG

    ppl REALLY need to read the Editor Arn's discussion he posted about advertising. The responses are well written criticisms about how this review was conducted. Find it here: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=297268#post297268

    AND, Star Def STILL SUX... $6 HA! BEST GRAPHICS, HA! INNOVATIVE, HA! BULL.

    • THJ

      I respectfully disagree. I got Star Defense a day before going out of town for work, and I'm hopelessly addicted. Then again, I'm a TD junkie. I also have Rolando from the same company, and it only held my attention for about 30 minutes. That doesn't mean that every positive review of the game is inaccurate, or that every reviewer that enjoyed Rolando is on the ngmoco dole, it just means that I have different tastes.

      Different people like different things.

  • Dark NRG

    ppl REALLY need to read the Editor Arn's discussion he posted about advertising. The responses are well written criticisms about how this review was conducted. Find it here: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=297268#post297268

    AND, Star Def STILL SUX... $6 HA! BEST GRAPHICS, HA! INNOVATIVE, HA! BULL.

    • THJ

      I respectfully disagree. I got Star Defense a day before going out of town for work, and I'm hopelessly addicted. Then again, I'm a TD junkie. I also have Rolando from the same company, and it only held my attention for about 30 minutes. That doesn't mean that every positive review of the game is inaccurate, or that every reviewer that enjoyed Rolando is on the ngmoco dole, it just means that I have different tastes.

      Different people like different things.

  • Kumulus

    good point with the missing link to the forum discussion which is basically part of EVER review on the front page. especially when the reactions to the game are mixed.

    highly biased review in my opinion either because ngmoco is a good "buddy" or because hodapp is just closing his eyes from the negative comments about this game...whyever.

    either way this review is definitely not balanced enough.

  • Kumulus

    good point with the missing link to the forum discussion which is basically part of EVER review on the front page. especially when the reactions to the game are mixed.

    highly biased review in my opinion either because ngmoco is a good "buddy" or because hodapp is just closing his eyes from the negative comments about this game...whyever.

    either way this review is definitely not balanced enough.

  • Frog

    "Broken Zoom" really is the best way to describe the 3D-Planet-Feature. It's a very basic Tower Defense game and the main difference is just annoying. This is no "welcome change", but a design flaw.

    You can't deny that ngmoco gets much more coverage on this site than any other developer. I already mentioned this when they did the high score competition for review sites. This is no additional value for users, it's just a way to get more coverage, more hype and positive vibes from review sites. An independent site should try to avoid being manipulated by single developers.

  • Frog

    "Broken Zoom" really is the best way to describe the 3D-Planet-Feature. It's a very basic Tower Defense game and the main difference is just annoying. This is no "welcome change", but a design flaw.

    You can't deny that ngmoco gets much more coverage on this site than any other developer. I already mentioned this when they did the high score competition for review sites. This is no additional value for users, it's just a way to get more coverage, more hype and positive vibes from review sites. An independent site should try to avoid being manipulated by single developers.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    I agree about the high score competition for SD before it was released. We as readers should care about the score TA can get in a blatant publicity stunt exactly WHY?

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    I agree about the high score competition for SD before it was released. We as readers should care about the score TA can get in a blatant publicity stunt exactly WHY?

  • Alza

    @zak
    Yes, it did occur to me that some people may just not like star defense. That's their opinion and it's fine with me!
    I was merely commenting on the criticisms that accompany every toucharcade review of an ngmoco game - suggesting bias and paid reviews.
    I can definitely accept that some people may not love the game.

  • Alza

    @zak
    Yes, it did occur to me that some people may just not like star defense. That's their opinion and it's fine with me!
    I was merely commenting on the criticisms that accompany every toucharcade review of an ngmoco game - suggesting bias and paid reviews.
    I can definitely accept that some people may not love the game.

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    Alza,

    I haven't noticed those accusations of all ngmoco games. Which is not to say they don't exist. :)

  • http://www.kotodama.net Zak

    Alza,

    I haven't noticed those accusations of all ngmoco games. Which is not to say they don't exist. :)

  • arn

    Here' the summary of opinions from the forum:

    http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=298628&postcount=22

    20 People gave Positive Reviews
    5 People gave Neutral/Undecided Reviews
    12 People gave Negative Reviews

    So the majority of people on TA forums gave Star Defense a positive review.

    • Alza

      No surprise there. It's a really good game.
      I hope Eli continues to write great reviews.

      @Zak - In the forums many users have a view that ngmoco is 'overhyped' - a view they bring to every release. In the pre-release threads, this group even usually predict the game will not be up to standard, and then claim to be correct upon release.
      Rolando was, I guess, the other big release that received a great review here that was questioned, again because of advertising that ran simultaneously.
      Again, the comments below were targeted at toucharcade with accusations of bias.
      The criticism of other ngmoco reviews has thankfully remained mainly in the threads.
      I've just noticed a trend toward sky-high expectations for ngmoco games, and feel that the writers at toucharcade seem to be bearing the brunt (unfairly) of some who dislike ngmoco simply for their strong marketing.
      Anyway, I'm up to the fourth world on normal and thoroughly enjoying SD.
      The graphics and sound really are top-notch, and make this up there with my favourite TDs.

    • Frog

      @arn: I haven't checked your numbers, but even if they are right, they show that there are things to dislike in this game. Even the positive forum reviews included some negative points.

      Shouldn't a good review include Pros and Cons? The Review is one of the longest available on this site, but the author didn't use the extra space to mention as single negative thing he experienced while playing the game. Instead he chose to defend the things some people have criticized. Everything is great, being hectic is "a welcome change", DLC will be handled fair, etc.

      • arn

        Well, I was primarily addressing the false claim that the vast majority of forum opinions were negative.

        As for the reasons why people didn't like the game based on the thread, the bulk of the reasons seemed to stem from whether or not an individual thought the 3D mechanic added something new/interesting to the TD gameplay or not, rather than any glaring technical defects. There was also at least one opinion which changed after more time was spent on the game, and a number of opinions after people had played just a couple of levels. So, I'm not sure if longer play will impact opinions more or not.

        arn

    • http://www.peitsch.de Sebastian

      And how many of those find the "hectic gameplay" to be the thing that is what makes the game interesting?

      It's just so ridiculous that this is given as a pro in the review of a TD game. I understand this might be something you'd want in a "Commandos" style game but here it all stems from being able to rotate fast enough to simply see the playing area and not giving that as a possible con in the whole review just irks me to no end, especially when the logo of the game is currently the backdrop of the website the review is on.

      It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth when a review doesn't list any cons. Every legitimate gaming review website and gaming magazine does list the negative aspects of a game. This review doesn't.

  • arn

    Here' the summary of opinions from the forum:

    http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=298628&postcount=22

    20 People gave Positive Reviews
    5 People gave Neutral/Undecided Reviews
    12 People gave Negative Reviews

    So the majority of people on TA forums gave Star Defense a positive review.

    • Alza

      No surprise there. It's a really good game.
      I hope Eli continues to write great reviews.

      @Zak - In the forums many users have a view that ngmoco is 'overhyped' - a view they bring to every release. In the pre-release threads, this group even usually predict the game will not be up to standard, and then claim to be correct upon release.
      Rolando was, I guess, the other big release that received a great review here that was questioned, again because of advertising that ran simultaneously.
      Again, the comments below were targeted at toucharcade with accusations of bias.
      The criticism of other ngmoco reviews has thankfully remained mainly in the threads.
      I've just noticed a trend toward sky-high expectations for ngmoco games, and feel that the writers at toucharcade seem to be bearing the brunt (unfairly) of some who dislike ngmoco simply for their strong marketing.
      Anyway, I'm up to the fourth world on normal and thoroughly enjoying SD.
      The graphics and sound really are top-notch, and make this up there with my favourite TDs.

    • Frog

      @arn: I haven't checked your numbers, but even if they are right, they show that there are things to dislike in this game. Even the positive forum reviews included some negative points.

      Shouldn't a good review include Pros and Cons? The Review is one of the longest available on this site, but the author didn't use the extra space to mention as single negative thing he experienced while playing the game. Instead he chose to defend the things some people have criticized. Everything is great, being hectic is "a welcome change", DLC will be handled fair, etc.

      • arn

        Well, I was primarily addressing the false claim that the vast majority of forum opinions were negative.

        As for the reasons why people didn't like the game based on the thread, the bulk of the reasons seemed to stem from whether or not an individual thought the 3D mechanic added something new/interesting to the TD gameplay or not, rather than any glaring technical defects. There was also at least one opinion which changed after more time was spent on the game, and a number of opinions after people had played just a couple of levels. So, I'm not sure if longer play will impact opinions more or not.

        arn

    • http://www.peitsch.de Sebastian

      And how many of those find the "hectic gameplay" to be the thing that is what makes the game interesting?

      It's just so ridiculous that this is given as a pro in the review of a TD game. I understand this might be something you'd want in a "Commandos" style game but here it all stems from being able to rotate fast enough to simply see the playing area and not giving that as a possible con in the whole review just irks me to no end, especially when the logo of the game is currently the backdrop of the website the review is on.

      It just leaves you with a bad taste in your mouth when a review doesn't list any cons. Every legitimate gaming review website and gaming magazine does list the negative aspects of a game. This review doesn't.

  • Ahiru

    game is a bland, pretty basic TD game. very well polished though, like all ngmoco games. but still pretty basic, ya i wanted to emphasize that...

    if the price were less steep, it would be really worth it, there are better td games for the same/less.

  • Ahiru

    game is a bland, pretty basic TD game. very well polished though, like all ngmoco games. but still pretty basic, ya i wanted to emphasize that...

    if the price were less steep, it would be really worth it, there are better td games for the same/less.

  • Carlos

    I'm enjoying the game so far. I like the 3D graphics. In resume, I agree with the reviewer. I'm more a casual gamer that don't have too much time to play and this title is perfect for me.

    As any other game it can't please everyone.

  • Carlos

    I'm enjoying the game so far. I like the 3D graphics. In resume, I agree with the reviewer. I'm more a casual gamer that don't have too much time to play and this title is perfect for me.

    As any other game it can't please everyone.

  • krikaoli

    The reviews I read about this game here and at slide were a bunch of lies... I'm very disapointed with toucharcade... this game is far away from a geo defense or fieldrunners...

    overpriced, overated...
    I'm sure ngmoco payed this site to talk good things about this trash game...
    I can't believe I spent 5,99 at this game... I would put 1 star or 2... so boring... the worst sound I have seen at a TD...

    Munkee and others said all:

    "Overrated and overhyped game.
    If you read honest reviews in the forums you'll know it's just a mediocre TD game with gimmicky 3D planet. Big Albie's review is better and more honest than this."

  • krikaoli

    The reviews I read about this game here and at slide were a bunch of lies... I'm very disapointed with toucharcade... this game is far away from a geo defense or fieldrunners...

    overpriced, overated...
    I'm sure ngmoco payed this site to talk good things about this trash game...
    I can't believe I spent 5,99 at this game... I would put 1 star or 2... so boring... the worst sound I have seen at a TD...

    Munkee and others said all:

    "Overrated and overhyped game.
    If you read honest reviews in the forums you'll know it's just a mediocre TD game with gimmicky 3D planet. Big Albie's review is better and more honest than this."

  • TD

    Would it be too much to ask for a photo or Morgan?

  • TD

    Would it be too much to ask for a photo or Morgan?

  • krikaoli

    Well, besides having diferent opinions justice must be made: toucharcade have all my respect and admiration. After reading the forum about I noted how responsible and careful they are with reviews. Shame on you krikaoli! My best regards.

  • krikaoli

    Well, besides having diferent opinions justice must be made: toucharcade have all my respect and admiration. After reading the forum about I noted how responsible and careful they are with reviews. Shame on you krikaoli! My best regards.

  • TheOne

    Look at you all, you're a like a bunch of sheep. Give it a rest, if you were thinking clearly you'd realise this was brilliant, you're obviously all TD fans- this game is choc full of innovation. The 3D Planets - a masterstroke, being able to manually start waves(someone wanted to "speed the game-up", please learn to play the "game" properly), non-linear progression, and automatic challenges....its a fantastic game.

  • TheOne

    Look at you all, you're a like a bunch of sheep. Give it a rest, if you were thinking clearly you'd realise this was brilliant, you're obviously all TD fans- this game is choc full of innovation. The 3D Planets - a masterstroke, being able to manually start waves(someone wanted to "speed the game-up", please learn to play the "game" properly), non-linear progression, and automatic challenges....its a fantastic game.