Doom Resurrection Pricing Discussion

Discussion in 'General Game Discussion and Questions' started by florbastang, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. starjimstar

    starjimstar Well-Known Member

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    I am referring to your irrelevant comment. There is a saying: "you don't make your home any safer by breaking the lock on mine." If you must resort to minimizing your opponent's position, it is possible you don't actually have a point.

    I just tried the game a few hours ago. It is quite good even though I am not free to roam. Someone, pages back, had referred to the game as a glorified movie, and I would agree: that is what it feels like. I could compare it to Space Ace with more depth (and gore.) Or it might even be fair to note similarities shared with the auto-accelerate racers like Need for Speed. And for the cost of a movie on iTunes, replayability is not high on my list of concerns, but with multiplayer on the horizon I can actually see myself revisiting this title.

    That is what I am talking about. If you still can't convert the nonbelievers, just wait a few weeks for the $5.99 price adjustment (because, in the iDevice world, hype is worth $4) and watch DOOM rise through the ranks once again.
     
  2. Rad

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    id started out by making great games; some where along the way they forgot what made a great game. Its not the graphics. It was replayability, multi player co-op and death match, level editor, game map, and lets not forget the shareware model for distribution.


    How many of you remember the shareware version of Doom kind of like the lite version on the app store.

    You got so many levels free and if you wanted the rest you bought it.

    I think id needs to go back to this model.

    If the game is fun people will buy it through an in app purchase.

    On top of that you have only one app in the store.

    Rad
     
  3. hmm

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    It wasn't irrelevant at all. It was a direct response to this comment:

    Now, I don't know what's considered a "bunch", but I think it was to be expected that not every single review would be a positive one and that certainly some of them would express the same disappointment in the on-rails experience that we've seen here. No game gets 100% positive reviews, at least that I've seen. My point was simply that there just aren't that many complaints overall, which is contrary to what florbastang seemed to be indicating. Maybe that will change, but new reviews are being added all the time and most of them are still 5 stars, so it's not happening yet.
     
  4. LonerATO

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    I would say this is a sign of id giving back to the community.

    http://www.quakelive.com/
     
  5. Rad

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    I tried logging in once, the line to get in was endless, maybe better now?
     
  6. nizy

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    Your argument is very strange. If anything casual gamers would most likely prefer the simpler control mechanics (thats the whole point of casual games). They might complain about game length, but probably not. Would they really expect a longer game? I mean stuff like Terminater Salvation was pretty short at around 2 hour mark.

    I would expect the only complaints to come from so called "core" gamers. Of course they won't be on the app store, because many of those guys, like yourself won't buy it, so won't be able to review it!

    Of course the other caveat is the website reviews, which are ALL positive:
    IGN - 8/10
    STP - 3/4
    iPhone Games Network - 4.5/5
    TA - Positive

    If there was something so lame about this game, you'd think at least 1 of these sites would have scored it lower.
     
  7. starjimstar

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    I apologize for singling you out. I would still rather not see the discussion go down that path.
     
  8. Trotgar

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    The games on the iPhone/iPod Touch cost less because they aren't as good as DS or PSP games. They are deeper and better and therefore cost more. Plus DS' and PSP's are better for gaming, touch and accelometer alone aren't good ways of gaming (except for Wii, because you don't have to move whole screen, just the controller, With iDevices, it's the whole device.)
     
  9. Squeaker

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  10. florbastang

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    They are also dedicated gaming devices. People buy them specifically to play games. iDevices just happen to play games. Most users will buy games if they're cheap to serve as a distraction.

    Let's also not forget about manufacturing costs. Games on the App Store don't require costly factories, costly manufacturing tools and machines, costly labor force, etc. They don't have to pay for shipping crates of these discs/cartridges half way across the world and so on.

    They also make, from what I understand, 70% of sales (Apple gets 30%). I'm willing to bet that console game developers don't see a solid 70% skimmed right off of the top of the total sale price. I imagine that stores mark up the prices considerably, among other things.
     
  11. o.o

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    Apple is marketing the iDevices as gaming platforms now, and many people are buying them as game platforms. They don't just 'happen to play games', as Apple specifically made them play games. Nothing happens for no reason.

    Anyway, I hadn't heard very much about Doom when I got it, and you have almost certainly gathered I am on it's side :p However, I get this niggling doubt whether I really should have paid £6.. /cough sorry $10 for this game. Then I remembered I paid the same price for the Sims, which (Sims fans look away) successfully kept me entertained for a day and a half, and considering I bought it before going to sleep and waking up in the middle of the next night with the epiphany something like this - 'Gawsh, this is all a bit repetitive.' :eek: So using the Sims as my comparison, Doom Ressurection is holding its own rather well. That is if I don't change my mind within the next 24 hours.

    Hmm, perhaps this post is overlong seeing as I haven't been following this thread like a vicious stalker with malintentions following a victim. I suppose the thing I dislike is the amount of hate spewed by someone who hasn't even played the game.
     
  12. spiffyone

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    Actually, as much as I'm laughing as I type this (laughing at the absurdity of agreeing with him btw), flortrollbang is correct in this case.

    iTouch/Phone is a mobile platform that is a viable platform for games, but it is NOT a game system. It is not primarily focused on running one type of software above all else (in this case, games). It is a "do all" sort of device, and, in fact, the majority of the userbase doesn't buy many games. It just so happens that those that do make up a sizable amount, and they buy a ton of games.

    The market is thus more comparable to, say, the PC market for games. Not everyone who buys a PC buys it to play games. Most don't, tbqh. But there's a sizable base that does, and they buy a ton of games, making PCs a viable platform for games despite the fact that they are not game systems (again, they are not dedicated solely or primarily to gaming). And before you through "gaming PCs" at me, understand that even those gaming PCs can be used to run other types of software stock.

    That said, this is a case of a squirrel finding a nut. Floriwhatshisface was due to get something right. :p
     
  13. Eli

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    Here's something amazing-

    florbastang has made 28 posts raging about Doom Resurrection.
    Those 28 posts consists of 2,817 words and 15,493 characters.

    Just shy of 3000 words complaining about a video game.

    Think about that for a second. Let's assume an average typing speed of 50WPM. That's a few minutes short of an hour of non-stop typing to whine about Doom being on rails and costing $10. This of course isn't even taking in to account all the time spent constantly refreshing the Doom threads and thinking about the contents of his next tantrum.

    I seriously just don't even know what to say about that.
     
  14. sizzlakalonji

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    This makes me remember an old rock song (I think by Styx) goes like this: "I've got toooooo much time on my hands".
     
  15. o.o

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    Give him more fuel to burn and he'll have spent as much time complaining about it as it takes some people to complete the levels for the first time :D
     
  16. Eli

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    Hahah well I'm sure the time he's spend obsessively monitoring both Doom threads has far exceeded the playtime of the game.
     
  17. Floorbestank. Get it right.

    Trolls are remarkable in that they are self-powered. They don't need to eat, sleep or drink; they derive nourishment and energy from their uncanny ability to pick out the merest wisp of something that could be twisted and cast in a negative light -- and barring that, they can just make crap up, such as interpreting anally-derived statistics or making grandiose FUD predictions.

    Curiously, a lot of them work for Fox News.
     
  18. spiffyone

    spiffyone Well-Known Member

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    Eh...I was kinda partial to flortrollbang. ;)

    And now that disease has spread to MSNBC. Sadly unbearable to watch either nowadays. BBC World for me, with periodic CNN. At least Lou Dobbs is an equal opportunity grouch, with some logical basis to his rants, which IMHO is many steps above the trolls that pass themselves off as commentators.
     
  19. spiffyone

    spiffyone Well-Known Member

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    And why do we feed the troll?

    My reason is that he's become sort of a virtual pet now. :p
     
  20. Alichan76

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    I'm going to go out on a limb here as I feel that it's one thing to disagree with people, but I just can't get along with this whole 'Troll' thing. You may as well come out and say 'You Sir, are a right royal pr*ck!!!!'. I don't know about you, but that would be enough to send me far away from the TA forums for good. It seems people loose their manners when sitting behind the safety of their computer...
     

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