Yes, and to make it more clear it helps to remember that you play the game from Daniel's perspective back in the late 1800s. And when you Spoiler read the companion notes, you are YOU, reading notes Theodor Almsten's notes written in 2012. If you read through the December notes again you'll see things that make it obvious. 12/13 he says "If the future can be altered, why not the past". 12/23 you see the items in the box... Now after reading all the notes and discovering the code to open the box you go back to walk again. But if you remember that you are walking as Daniel, well then you just opened a box that has a note on graph paper claiming to be from the future as well a newspaper article with mention of your execution. I love a good Spoiler time travel twist
I found the stone where you have to put your thumbs on it and it gives you a sequence but what do you do next?
Plus Spoiler the newspaper clipping of Daniels execution, his final words are along the lines of 'I wish I'd killed myself'. So I guess that really is that. It just the App creators hint at a really big surprise if you find certain clues. I can't believe this is the big surprise. I wonder if you open the box at a certain point in the game there might be something more?
Spoiler I don't think so. But there must be good moral to the story. What's the point in such a depressing pointless ending?
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but Spoiler in the companion notes, the one dated December 25th shows the ripped page of a calendar, so out of curiosity I checked to find out that if it was for 2012, it would be incorrect. So I went on and checked the years previously mentioned (1746, 1872, 1885, 1889, 1922, 2004 and 2013) and discovered that 1922 would be the only year that has a week in December starting with Monday 11th. Maybe it's nothing and it doesn't make a lot of sense anyway, but I wanted to share this bit of info anyway
Spoiler Yeah, that's what I thought. In the original timeline, David goes on his Year Walk, where at the end it's revealed to him that she does not love him anymore, and is going to marry someone else. In jealously and rage, he murders her, and goes to jail. However, in the future, Almstein while researching comes upon David's story, at which point the Watchers help him along. Almstein realizes that he can use the gate and his Year Walk to send the box with back in time to David, and change what happened. It seemed that Almstein thought that the only option was for David to kill himself - by that point, the Watchers would've forced things along towards the end they wanted, and unless he killed himself, ended it there...things would've happened the same, or similarly. Or maybe there just had to be a sacrifice of some sort. But here's the rub...how did David in the past know what the code to the box was? Only we knew, so we inputted it. He didn't know, so unless I'm missing something that's a plot hole. But I think someone should play through the game to different extents, then go back and open the box, to see if something different happens.
I agree Coderkid. Spoiler I've been troubled by how Daniel would know how to open the box. The game is very linear. There's not much you can deviate from. If there really is a 'big surprise' it can only happen by opening box at different time in game OR maybe walking round the church in a different route. Really love this game. Like no other.
Ditto. Spoiler Which is part of why I doubt there's a third ending, or at least one that differs much from David's killing himself. Maybe stop right at the tombstones, go back, and open it? Or the only other stuff is in the Companion app.
In regards to the ending, Spoiler Who says an ending always has to be a happy one? Daniel ventured forth on his Year Walk to see what the future held for him and Lisa. His future held murder, misery and regret. I think it was a great ending....depressing but quite fitting. We are not meant to gaze into the future. Year Walking is like a cheat code for that and Almsten confirms it in his November 22nd entry: "Daniel broke the rules and he was punished". But Almsten figured Lisa shouldn't be the one to die because Daniel broke the rules, so that's why he sacrificed his sanity to reach out to Daniel so he could amend his deadly mistake. As to how Daniel knew: Spoiler Didn't Almsten receive the code through his dreams? The watchers were communicating with him through them. I think it's safe to assume Daniel's dreams were altered after Almsten reached out through space and time to him. Instead of the original "KILL HER" dream that drove him to madness and murder, he instead had dreams of the combination to the box. Upon opening the box, he found the answer to his Year Walk as well as an alternative to change fate . I think the second ending IS the happy ending.
I opened the box early, right before I Spoiler went through the grave stone puzzle . Nothing new happened. I did notice at the end there were some initials written on the knife. It looked like S+D but it went by pretty fast.
Spoiler I do too, since I can't really imagine a happier ending with all parties appeased. But I don't think the Watchers sent him the code through his dream - it was left around his house or on him for him to find. David's vision/dream happens at the end happens at the end of the Year Walk, so as to why it would be altered before he really goes on his Year Walk is confusing, and doesn't make sense.
Same. Which makes me assume that no matter WHEN you open it, the outcome will always be the same. Spoiler Almsten reached out to Daniel through time and space ONCE. There is no way the contents can change.
Well, that's disappointing. I can't really see what options there would be to change significantly what happened. I don't think there is a third ending. Spoiler Well, how David acts on that can change, or the Watchers from the original timeline could try to stop him. But it's unlikely that Simogo stuck that in.
I think that's fair to assume. We play the game from Daniel's perspective. So if I'm Daniel Spoiler in 1894 and I open that box, how did I know the code? "I don't know how I knew it. But somehow the answer was in my head." ... Year walking does elicit visions afterall.
It probably went something like this: Spoiler At the end of his original Year Walk, the answer to his quest was "KILL HER". As he was in his cabin reluctantly contemplating Lisa's murder, he had a final dream. A vision. The code flashes right before his eyes. He walks to the box, inputs the code. Inside the box he finds the newspaper article that confirms that he indeed went through with the murder, and the regret he felt afterwards during his execution. And the note from Almsten offering an alternative to his plight. The option to sacrifice his life instead of hers. Spoiler I believe The Watchers had everything to do with it, for their own amusement. They gave Almsten the codes and said "Here, try to help him!" Almsten's first dream revealed the first symbol. The constellation Lisa pointed to. The Watchers can definitely manipulate time, space and even reality, as we can clearly observe in Year Walk. So a physical manifestation of the symbols is by no means a stretch.
