Yeah, so tell me the new Wii-U isn't a response to the iPad?

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  1. TheProxy

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  2. arta

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    http://www.touchgen.net/e3-nintendos-wii-u-borrows-from-ipad-success

     
  3. TheProxy

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    Nigel Wood is god, anything he says must be true.

    A Harvard scholar, co-inventor of WiiU, Nintendo super exec., marketing analysis king, a cure to AIDS, he knows all.
     
  4. CaptainAwesome

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    The issue that will likely be addressed with future consoles is processing power and the ability to run DirectX 11. That way the level of detail, polygons, etc. can be significantly improved.

    Yeah. And depending on what kind of technology IBM is putting into those proprietary chips for the console, it could certainly do so.

    Since when could mobile devices take the entire console gaming experience? Nintendo's trying something new, I don't understand why that could be considered "overkill." You don't have to be doing all those things at once. There are certain situations where other family members may want to do something else with the TV. Instead of having to turn it off, maybe you can stream it to your device and continue playing. Why is this a bad thing?

    Somebody has forgotten that this, contrary to belief, is not a mobile device.
     
  5. injuwarrior

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    Obviously, no, nothing has not done that yet (and its not a mobile device, so it would be wrong to directly call/compare it to one). But part of the console experience is to play on a bigger screen. Mobile devices have games better tailored to the smaller screen, where I can choose from all the games stored on that device, without ever even thinking about it being streamed from somewhere. You may be right. It could appeal to a lot of people who want this sort of multitasking from the device, so they can move around the house more. But to me, its another screen that now does the same thing my bigger screen does better. Mobile devices have simplifies things, brought us down to one device for so many things, and that has been a reason for their success. It just seems that this complicates things, from the limited info we know. But who knows, the nintendo DS caught on very nicely, maybe they can bring that same appeal to this.
     
  6. B34$T

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    I see nothing that shows that the new controller is competing with the ipad. It streams media from the console and is primarily used as... a controller. I heard no mention of an internal memory for storing media nor for an appstore for the controller. The only similarities I see are web browsing is possible, it is a tablet based design, and you can make video calls.

    To be quite honest I am actually curious as to the battery life of the new controller will be.
     
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  8. Teknikal

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    I think it's a very dumb move myself I think it will need to be charged an awful lot and looks much more uncomfortable than a standard controller. I think nintendo needs to cut out their gimmicks and go back to making a no nonsense games system like the original snes.

    At the same time they will probably sell tons of them anyway.
     
  9. dumaz1000

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    They are going to encourage hardcore game development in order to entice dedicated gamers. They are going to enlist the help of a score of major, console-driven multi-platform developers, many of which would not so much as give the iPad the time of day. They are likely to sell their games for 59.99 a piece. A response to the iPad? Not really.

    However, Nintendo is obviously a very gimmicky company and I agree that these gimmicks can be distracting and can deter from the actual strength of the hardware itself. The smoke and mirrors are unneccesary if they are truly going to pursue and attract dedicated gamers.
     
  10. crex

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    It looks weird. Like I said in the E3 thread, the downfall of this console I believe is the fact that you can't bring it anywhere. The console it needs to connect to looks fat and ugly. The games that are going to release for this might sound great but it's not enough for a purchase from me.

    Looks like Sony won this year...surprisingly.
     
  11. Spamcan

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    Despite the fact that the controller is a tablet the inspiration is clearly more DS then iPad. Touch screens are superior to motion control, it totally makes sense for Nintendo to make to bring the DS' greatest feature to a console. I can't think of a better time to do this then while Sony and Microsoft are still caught up on the waving your arms around fad, I'd much rather play Minecraft or Fruit Ninja on Wii U then Kinect. I've got my fingers crossed for a kick ass Silent Scope revival.
     
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    By far the biggest shortcoming of the Wii U is that it will only support one of the new controllers. Local multiplayer will be limited to Wii Remotes combined with one Wii U controller. I suppose that makes it mostly a Wii HD, and really that's not such a bad thing, but still, I can't believe it only supports one of the new controllers. That's hugely disappointing. I'm still interested, but less so since finding that out.
     
  13. Teknikal

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    After seeing more off it I don't think it's quite as bad as I originally thought in fact the main console itself looks pretty good and judging by the bird demo they showed quite powerful.

    I doubt I'll ever buy one but I expect it will appeal to more people than the original wii and it certainly has potential. I'm still not sold on the novelty controller but at least they are using it in some interesting ways and you have alternatives.

    I'll be interested in seeing how the more adult games like Arkham etc look on it.
     
  14. CaptainAwesome

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    I only mentioned that mobile devices have not retained the console experience to elaborate the fact that it would be silly to forego this full console experience simply because the controller has a smaller screen. I wasn't trying to call it a mobile device; if you would read my posts, you'd see that is exactly the opposite of what I've been trying to say. But you're right, only time will tell as to what will happen with this console.

    Yeah, that would be quite unfortunate if they didn't address that in the next few months. Despite the fact that the controller would probably be incredibly expensive, it would be expected that we would be able to utilize more than one.

    It looks pretty much exactly like the Wii, except without the corners. I've not seen yet someone complain about the aesthetics of a console and utilize that as a point to not buy the console, even when the games that are coming would absolutely outweigh such vapid interests.

    And maybe Nintendo is just showing some brains here. If the controller were mobile, it would naturally impede on their sales of the 3DS. Plus, if the controller were able to be taken anywhere, it would have to contain all the normal amenities of a mobile device - CPU, RAM, GPU, internal memory, etc. Really expensive, and that would likely drive consumers away from purchasing what may be seen as simply a controller.
     
  15. MidianGTX

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    Are we looking at the same console here? It's only slightly larger than a CD walkman! Smaller than both the 360, PS3 and possibly even the Wii and quite smart and minimalist in its layout. White is very "in" these days too, even though I do prefer the traditional black for my electronics.
     
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    Interesting stuff:

     
  17. matthewwhatever

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    I agree that it has potential, but I don't think it'll have the same mass appeal that the Wii did. The motion controllers may have sucked for most games, but they were pretty intuitive; even without seeing them in person you could look at pictures of them and know roughly how they worked. The New Controller (I really hope they change the name) doesn't have that going for it at all, at least at this point. Maybe my impression will change once I've had time to get used to the idea of a 10" controller with a massive screen in the middle, but as of right now, I think it's just too drastic a departure from the norm for it to catch on like the Wii did.

    That said, even if the controller does start looking like something worth trying out, I think the price of the system is going to discourage impulse/curiosity buys. They may not have given an exact price yet, but:
    1) they've said that it'll be more expensive than the Wii;
    2) Nintendo's business model is to sell its hardware at a profit (compared to Sony, who treat consoles as a loss leader); and
    3) they just launched their handheld system for $250, and they can't very well turn around and launch a new console for roughly the same price.
    Based on that -- especially #1 -- I think the Wii U is going to be a lot more expensive than people are used to from Nintendo...possibly even enough to prevent really widespread adoption.
     
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    We won't know exactly how much the 8th Gen home console market will be worth until Microsoft and Sony announce their new home consoles.
     
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    haha, judging by the picture, I thought it was going to be big. My bad. :p

    But still, that doesn't matter. The fact that I can't bring it anywhere is the main reason why I won't be buying this.
     

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