Windows Vista IE Problem

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  1. Bruno

    Bruno Well-Known Member

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    The TA site is totally weird since two days ago.

    The right bar with all the game releases, new games, etc are all over the place and it is impossible to use.

    To get the problem "fixed" I have to go to New Games section (menu bar, on top).

    Thank you,

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  2. Zincous

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    The problem is your using Interent Explorer.

    Get Firefox, Safari, or Chrome. All of which are better.
     
  3. AaronAMV

    AaronAMV Well-Known Member

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    But there is a plus to IE, Zincous... You can download Firefox with it. :D
     
  4. Zincous

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    That's about the only thing it is good for.

    Oh, and microsoft updates are forced to be done with IE :rolleyes:
     
  5. AaronAMV

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    It IS the only thing it's good for.
     
  6. wootbean

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    heheh last time I used IE was when I hadn't yet known what the Internet is and what a web browser is
     
  7. thewiirocks

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  8. Eli

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    Hey post a screenshot if you get a chance, we actually did recently make some minor changes to the front page template code a few days ago... But nothing that should have broken how anything is displayed in Internet Explorer.
     
  9. thewiirocks

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    #9 thewiirocks, Dec 31, 2009
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    Different versions of Internet Explorer have different levels of breakage. It could be an IE7 or IE8 specific problem. It's difficult to get sites to NOT break on IE while still maintaining some sense of modern features.

    IMHO, leave it broken. And throw up a banner that says, "Get a real browser". The sooner IE dies, the sooner the Internet will be a safer, faster, and more feature-rich place for everyone.

    (I know, it's still hanging around like an undead zombie. But a guy can dream, can't he? :D)

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  10. Eli

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    While I'd love to be smarmy about such things, we're much more concerned with accessibility than preaching the word of Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and other alternative browsers. ;)

    ...But don't get me wrong, I have no love for IE. Unfortunately, IE users still account for far too much traffic across the entire internet to just say nuts to making sure TA renders well for them. :p
     
  11. thewiirocks

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    #11 thewiirocks, Dec 31, 2009
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    Oh shush you. And "Alternative Browsers" is the wrong term. Has been for years. There's only broken browsers (e.g. IE) and non-broken browsers (just about everything else). Just trying to get everyone on the non-broken stuff. ;)

    To be serious for a moment, the IE numbers are massively inflated by corporations. I've been watching the trends and I've noticed that very few people use Internet Explorer at home. Yet just about everyone in Corporate settings is forced to use IE (often the uber-broken IE6 version) because it's the "Corporate Standard".

    The reason why it's the corporate standard? Because too many companies made the decision to only support IE in their tools due to its market prevalence and are now paying the price.

    A machine that surfs the web with IE is a machine that is virus and spyware infested. Not to mention horribly, horribly broken.

    That being said, I would find it interesting to know what the breakdown of browsers is for Touch Arcade. I'd be shocked if IE composed more than 30% of your traffic. If it's as low as 15%, it may make a lot of sense for you to push to eliminate IE rather than trying to support such old and broken browsers.
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  12. Eli

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    Well, the reason you don't see many popular web sites getting on board with browser evangelism is because even at 10-15%, a site that doesn't work in IE turns away a massive amount of traffic. While a small personal site might only be turning away a few people a day by not having things render properly in IE, we would be turning away thousands.

    I agree with you that IE sucks but unfortunately supporting it will be a necessary evil for high traffic web sites for years to come... Regardless how much web designers who hate IE want to kick and scream about it. ;)
     
  13. gekkota

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    Looks fine on IE7 (**blushes**) on my Vista PC (**hangs head in shame**)
    No changes at all in the appearance of TA.
    :)
     
  14. Bruno

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    Eli, here is the pic....
     

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    #15 thewiirocks, Jan 1, 2010
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    I understand the theory. In practice I run websites that get millions of hits per month and have seen no ill effects from turning away IE users. There's a peer pressure effect going on that forces these people to upgrade rather than simply leave. (I say "peer pressure" because anyone caught using IE is usually ridiculed until they change. See this thread for two examples. The original poster was strongly pressured to change while the other poster exhibits shame for even testing IE! It really is a pariah.)

    When users upgrade to a non-broken browser, they usually find the experience so much more pleasant that they then join in the peer pressuring of other users, making the movement self-feeding.

    So the only thing preventing the dam from completely breaking at this point is webmasters who don't push their users to upgrade. As soon as the users feel the pressure, they will change.

    I think the most interesting example of a website pressuring users is actually Google. If you surf their sites (including Youtube!) with IE, you will receive a message that you are out of support and that things may break. So far it doesn't seem to be costing them any business. ;)
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  16. Foozelz

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    It's Windows....what can you expect?
     
  17. gatorsxrule

    gatorsxrule Well-Known Member

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    The only thing wrong that I see in that pic is that you using IE (also tht some of the links moved)
     
  18. Devilishly Good

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    @Bruno have you turned on compatibility view for toucharcade...I have IE on vista and everything displays without any issues
     
  19. MidianGTX

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    A little less elitism, probably.
     
  20. thewiirocks

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    #20 thewiirocks, Jan 2, 2010
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    Compatibility view doesn't make any difference for TA. At least not in my testing. Compatibility view is intended for sites that rely on older, broken IE misfeatures that are overridden by the standards that Microsoft has tried so hard not to implement. TA (like most modern websites) attempts to sidestep the issue by relying on standards that work across all browsers.

    Besides, Compatibility view is an IE8 feature. That screenshot appears to be IE7. (Though I could be wrong. The two are very similar.) If you notice, there is no compatibility button next to the URL bar.

    I suspect Bruno's browser is broken in some other way. Most likely he's on a point release of IE7 that had a minor bug. (Pretty common with IE.) Or it could be that some malware is messing with the engine. Either way, installing the latest patches or upgrading to IE8 would probably resolve the issue.

    Of course, that's the painful solution. The easy solution is to go here.
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