Link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/williams-pinball/id1406370101 Williams™ Pinball ZEN Studios Williams™ Pinball ushers in a new era of mobile pinball excellence, uniting pinball players around the globe with new mu… Free Buy Now Watch Media DetailsWilliams™ Pinball ushers in a new era of mobile pinball excellence, uniting pinball players around the globe with new multiplayer features! Experience a dazzling collection of classic premium pinball tables such as Fish Tales™, Medieval Madness™, Attack from Mars™, Junk Yard™, The Party Zone™, Black Rose™ and The Getaway High Speed II™ with more tables on the way! Play head-to-head against players for real money and cash prizes, powered by Skillz! Each table is playable in its original form or in a remastered version featuring newly created 3D interactive characters, side wall art and more, bringing these classic tables to life like never before! Zen’s Pro Physics simulation provides the most authentic pinball experience available. From the makers of Zen Pinball, Marvel Pinball, Star Wars™ Pinball, Aliens vs. Pinball, Bethesda® Pinball and more! FEATURES: - Multiplayer matchups powered by Skillz provide endless competitive play and the chance to win real money and cash prizes in select countries - Daily challenges and competitions - Pro Physics delivers the most realistic mobile pinball experience available - New tables added frequently - Global leaderboards - Single-player challenges - Table customizations PRESS QUOTES Destructoid "The Bally/Williams licence and Zen Studios are truly a match made in heaven" The Sixth Axis "Each of the tables is perfectly recreated here and it’s simply astonishing the level of detail that Zen Studios have achieved" Digitally Downloaded "As with all Zen Studios titles, the physics are spot-on" ZTGD "Any fan of pinball of any skill level should add this to their collection" Universal Monsters © 1992-2019 Universal City Studios LLC. All Rights Reserved. Created and distributed under license from Williams Electronics Games Inc. Bally™ is a trademark of Caesar’s License Company, LLC. Monster Bash™ and Williams™ are trademarks of Williams Electronics Games Inc. Portions © 1992, 1998, 2019 Williams Electronics Games Inc. All rights reserved. Game code © 2018-2019 Zen Studios Ltd. All rights reserved. Information Seller:ZEN Studios Genre:Arcade, Simulation Release:Jan 28, 2019 Updated:Sep 14, 2022 Version:1.6.2 Size:162.9 MB TouchArcade Rating:Unrated User Rating:Unrated Your Rating:unrated Compatibility:HD Universal psj2710 Member Feb 1, 2019 20 16 3 Male #2 psj2710, Feb 1, 2019 Urregh. Disappointing. Just want to buy the tables like the normal Zen apps but there’s a crazy freemium currency and you win ‘parts’ of other tables etc. Wish it was back on Pinball Arcade Shimm5 and RedThumb like this. GordLacey Well-Known Member Nov 18, 2009 125 6 18 #3 GordLacey, Feb 1, 2019 You can "own" the tables, you just have to buy the Zen coins (using real money), to unlock them. Once unlocked you can play the table like any other Zen Pinball table. Unfortunately the cost to buy the tables is quite high. The tables themselves play better than anything FarSight released with Pinball Arcade. Shimm5 likes this. psj2710 Member Feb 1, 2019 20 16 3 Male #4 psj2710, Feb 1, 2019 Last edited: Feb 1, 2019 Yeah the one I played played well. I’ll see how much each table is Can you just buy any table without trying to get the ‘parts’ then ? Edit / each table seems to need 250 coins. There’s an IAP for 9.99 for 350 coins Think I’ll pass if they’re that price Shimm5 likes this. LordGek Well-Known Member Staff Member Patreon Silver Patreon Gold Patreon Bronze Feb 19, 2009 12,282 141 63 Software QA Engineer Saratoga, CA, USA #5 LordGek, Feb 6, 2019 The cheesiest aspect, unless missing something, if you end up buying these tables via this Freemium currency, you won't be able to restore/transfer the purchase of these tables to any other device you might have with the same Apple ID account. RedThumb Well-Known Member Mar 10, 2016 84 7 8 #6 RedThumb, Feb 7, 2019 This is a total disgrace. I bought every table in Zen Pinball, but I will not sink a cent into this. The should be ashamed of themselves. Shimm5 likes this. Igoo Well-Known Member Dec 14, 2008 586 1 18 #7 Igoo, Feb 7, 2019 I don’t understand the monetization for this app. Can I actually unlock and play all of these tables for free? Can someone explain please? LordGek Well-Known Member Staff Member Patreon Silver Patreon Gold Patreon Bronze Feb 19, 2009 12,282 141 63 Software QA Engineer Saratoga, CA, USA #8 LordGek, Feb 7, 2019 Sure, get ready for the PAIN! When you install the game you'll get to choose any 1 table as your sort of hub. You can play that 1 table unlimited for FREE, yeah! But to get access to any of the other 6 tables you'll need to navigate through a freemium triple currency Hellscape. Through play of your 1 game your "Mastery" level will rise and each time you gain a new level you'll get a tiny loot crate with limited use cosmetics and pieces of other tables. Besides just relying on the loot crates at level up you can also take on challenges for any tables you at least have earned basic access to for a chance at these same little loot crates if you successfully complete the challenge objectives. Even if a real trooper, playing your 1 table non-stop to level yourself and successfully completing each challenge it would take you WEEKS of grinding to even gain the most basic access to another table in the collection. You can, of course, bypass much of this grinding with CASH, but even then it can be tricky as they've made unlocking the tables a very weird mix of 3 currencies, so just trying to get basic access to all of the tables is tricky. There is 1 premium currency which you can bypass ALL of the nonsense and gain full access to all of the tables, but unless my math is off, it would cost you $45 to gain full access to all of the current tables and, as a final tip of the hat to scumminess, as you'd be buying these tables via the game's consumable currency, these purchases would not be restorable or transferable to any of your other linked devices. So if you spent the $45 bucks to get them all on your iPhone, you'll need to spend another $45 to get them on your new iPhone or iPad even if linked to the same Apple ID. psj2710, RedThumb and Igoo like this. Infinite Zero Well-Known Member Sep 13, 2013 103 5 18 #9 Infinite Zero, Feb 7, 2019 Wow, I would have paid at least $20 for the tables in a heartbeat. Not getting a dime of my money this way though. Wrath likes this. islesfan Well-Known Member Jul 25, 2012 319 3 18 Male Teacher Nevada #10 islesfan, Feb 7, 2019 I am so glad I own all these tables on Pinball Arcade. That has always been the superior platform anyway, but there you just purchase the tables up front. It really shows the difference in a company just out for cash maximization (Zen) and one where the developers truly love pinball (Farsight). Wrath likes this. Igoo Well-Known Member Dec 14, 2008 586 1 18 #11 Igoo, Feb 7, 2019 That's seriously brutal. I paid to unlock everything in the Farsight app before they removed the Williams license. I'll just keep playing there. Thanks for the painful clarification. psj2710 Member Feb 1, 2019 20 16 3 Male #12 psj2710, Feb 7, 2019 I used to like both Zen and Pinball arcade. Some people criticise Pinball Arcade as its not always 'realistic' but i personally thought it was fine, think it might be more the hardcore players. Bought a fair few in Zen as i really liked the star wars ones but this latest app is appalling. Never thought a pinball game would go down the crazy freemium/3 currency/earn parts route. Cant believe the customer signed off on this when they saw prototypes etc. Shame Pinball Arcade hasnt had any new tables for a while but glad i bought all of them when i did. islesfan and jkluk23 like this. anthony78 Well-Known Member Nov 13, 2015 3,125 703 113 #13 anthony78, Feb 7, 2019 So you do get to play one table for free unlimited? Might download it just for that and ignore all the other BS. Igoo Well-Known Member Dec 14, 2008 586 1 18 #14 Igoo, Feb 7, 2019 Yes, but which table? Gamer1st1 New Member May 29, 2018 4 0 1 Male #15 Gamer1st1, Feb 7, 2019 Whichever one you choose. I picked AFM since I’ve played the real one a lot and own RFM now. Their engine in this game is excellent. Unfortunately there’s too much crap layered on top of that engine to enjoy it. I want to buy and play the tables, not get bent over one. metalcasket Moderator Staff Member Patreon Silver Patreon Gold Patreon Bronze May 24, 2010 11,065 1,342 113 Deepest Circle, Hel #16 metalcasket, Feb 7, 2019 Is the Zen Pinball app still free of the additional freemium-type stuff that was added to the latter standalone apps? I mean, the South Park, Walking Dead, etc. ones. If so, I SERIOUSLY hope they're considering adding the Williams Pinball tables as a category in the Zen Pinball app. I won't touch this with a 10 foot pole. Gamer1st1 New Member May 29, 2018 4 0 1 Male #17 Gamer1st1, Feb 7, 2019 Last edited: Feb 7, 2019 They’re on the PS4/X1 versions. Fish Tales is free there with AFM, BR, and PZ for 9.99 with Getaway, JY, and Midievel Madness also at 9.99. I don’t know about the iOS versions situation though. EDIT... Just checked and the other app directs you to the new separate Williams for iOS. So not available in their other game sadly. GordLacey Well-Known Member Nov 18, 2009 125 6 18 #18 GordLacey, Feb 7, 2019 This isn't correct. Your progress transfers through your Apple ID, so you can bounce between playing on your iPad and iPhone and it'll be the same on either place; same tables, tickets, Zen coins, everything. If you spend $45 to unlock the tables, it'll be for all your devices. My advice to you guys is to contact Zen and let them know what you think (constructive criticism is the best). This is a departure for them compared to Zen Pinball, so it's good for them to receive feedback on this shift in the way the game is structured. I do really, really like the game itself. I also like the daily challenges, I just want to be able to pay an actual amount of money to "own" the tables themselves. Ideally I'd like to own the tables, but also be able to play the daily challenges to earn coins to buy the flippers and ball trails and ball skins. I don't dislike those things, they just have no monetary value to me. Gamer1st1 New Member May 29, 2018 4 0 1 Male #19 Gamer1st1, Feb 7, 2019 Basically what I told them in my review. Love the engine, not the rest. Igoo Well-Known Member Dec 14, 2008 586 1 18 #20 Igoo, Feb 10, 2019 I take back what I said before. You can hate the monetization for this app, but the graphics and physics are so good I can’t even play TPA anymore. As of now, I would say this is the best recreation of pinball on the platform. 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Urregh. Disappointing. Just want to buy the tables like the normal Zen apps but there’s a crazy freemium currency and you win ‘parts’ of other tables etc. Wish it was back on Pinball Arcade
You can "own" the tables, you just have to buy the Zen coins (using real money), to unlock them. Once unlocked you can play the table like any other Zen Pinball table. Unfortunately the cost to buy the tables is quite high. The tables themselves play better than anything FarSight released with Pinball Arcade.
Yeah the one I played played well. I’ll see how much each table is Can you just buy any table without trying to get the ‘parts’ then ? Edit / each table seems to need 250 coins. There’s an IAP for 9.99 for 350 coins Think I’ll pass if they’re that price
The cheesiest aspect, unless missing something, if you end up buying these tables via this Freemium currency, you won't be able to restore/transfer the purchase of these tables to any other device you might have with the same Apple ID account.
This is a total disgrace. I bought every table in Zen Pinball, but I will not sink a cent into this. The should be ashamed of themselves.
I don’t understand the monetization for this app. Can I actually unlock and play all of these tables for free? Can someone explain please?
Sure, get ready for the PAIN! When you install the game you'll get to choose any 1 table as your sort of hub. You can play that 1 table unlimited for FREE, yeah! But to get access to any of the other 6 tables you'll need to navigate through a freemium triple currency Hellscape. Through play of your 1 game your "Mastery" level will rise and each time you gain a new level you'll get a tiny loot crate with limited use cosmetics and pieces of other tables. Besides just relying on the loot crates at level up you can also take on challenges for any tables you at least have earned basic access to for a chance at these same little loot crates if you successfully complete the challenge objectives. Even if a real trooper, playing your 1 table non-stop to level yourself and successfully completing each challenge it would take you WEEKS of grinding to even gain the most basic access to another table in the collection. You can, of course, bypass much of this grinding with CASH, but even then it can be tricky as they've made unlocking the tables a very weird mix of 3 currencies, so just trying to get basic access to all of the tables is tricky. There is 1 premium currency which you can bypass ALL of the nonsense and gain full access to all of the tables, but unless my math is off, it would cost you $45 to gain full access to all of the current tables and, as a final tip of the hat to scumminess, as you'd be buying these tables via the game's consumable currency, these purchases would not be restorable or transferable to any of your other linked devices. So if you spent the $45 bucks to get them all on your iPhone, you'll need to spend another $45 to get them on your new iPhone or iPad even if linked to the same Apple ID.
Wow, I would have paid at least $20 for the tables in a heartbeat. Not getting a dime of my money this way though.
I am so glad I own all these tables on Pinball Arcade. That has always been the superior platform anyway, but there you just purchase the tables up front. It really shows the difference in a company just out for cash maximization (Zen) and one where the developers truly love pinball (Farsight).
That's seriously brutal. I paid to unlock everything in the Farsight app before they removed the Williams license. I'll just keep playing there. Thanks for the painful clarification.
I used to like both Zen and Pinball arcade. Some people criticise Pinball Arcade as its not always 'realistic' but i personally thought it was fine, think it might be more the hardcore players. Bought a fair few in Zen as i really liked the star wars ones but this latest app is appalling. Never thought a pinball game would go down the crazy freemium/3 currency/earn parts route. Cant believe the customer signed off on this when they saw prototypes etc. Shame Pinball Arcade hasnt had any new tables for a while but glad i bought all of them when i did.
So you do get to play one table for free unlimited? Might download it just for that and ignore all the other BS.
Whichever one you choose. I picked AFM since I’ve played the real one a lot and own RFM now. Their engine in this game is excellent. Unfortunately there’s too much crap layered on top of that engine to enjoy it. I want to buy and play the tables, not get bent over one.
Is the Zen Pinball app still free of the additional freemium-type stuff that was added to the latter standalone apps? I mean, the South Park, Walking Dead, etc. ones. If so, I SERIOUSLY hope they're considering adding the Williams Pinball tables as a category in the Zen Pinball app. I won't touch this with a 10 foot pole.
They’re on the PS4/X1 versions. Fish Tales is free there with AFM, BR, and PZ for 9.99 with Getaway, JY, and Midievel Madness also at 9.99. I don’t know about the iOS versions situation though. EDIT... Just checked and the other app directs you to the new separate Williams for iOS. So not available in their other game sadly.
This isn't correct. Your progress transfers through your Apple ID, so you can bounce between playing on your iPad and iPhone and it'll be the same on either place; same tables, tickets, Zen coins, everything. If you spend $45 to unlock the tables, it'll be for all your devices. My advice to you guys is to contact Zen and let them know what you think (constructive criticism is the best). This is a departure for them compared to Zen Pinball, so it's good for them to receive feedback on this shift in the way the game is structured. I do really, really like the game itself. I also like the daily challenges, I just want to be able to pay an actual amount of money to "own" the tables themselves. Ideally I'd like to own the tables, but also be able to play the daily challenges to earn coins to buy the flippers and ball trails and ball skins. I don't dislike those things, they just have no monetary value to me.
I take back what I said before. You can hate the monetization for this app, but the graphics and physics are so good I can’t even play TPA anymore. As of now, I would say this is the best recreation of pinball on the platform. And just I hope Zen reconsiders the way they charge for their fantastic work.
