Why Sony Sucks...

Go for it Sony. If the PS3 is hacked and pirating ensues, I'll be paying 70 or 80 bucks for games in 2 years.
It's not like Sony is going to throw you in prison or confiscate your PS3 just for going to the site... If you really did something wrong and get in trouble, it's your own fault.

Whine and whine all you want, but the PS3 is a gaming device with multimedia purposes. If you wanna run homebrew just get on your laptop. After all, if you can hack your PS3, you probably have a PC or Laptop, which is more capable for that stuff.

Just my opinion.

 

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Pirates almost ruined PC gaming and now they wanna go after consoles too? No way. Just use the system like it was designed to be used.

 

I agree with others. Why would you want to play your homemade game anyway, when there's tons of great games already!?

 

Didn't Geohot say something about hacking the PS3 but trying to prevent pirating games?

Anyway, if it's your PS3, you should hold the right to do anything you want with it. Especially if you paid £200+ for it.

 

You know those little boxes you blindly check that say

....I agree to the terms & policies of this product & it's company (paraphrasing)

Maybe that's why they have a problem with it, because jail breaking breeches it's "intended use".

Read the fine print & ask yourself if you really think a very well established company like Sony wants hacked systems on their network?

the first post in this thread is some funny sh!t....hacking opens doors to legitimate possible pirating that Sony and apple want to prevent but "that's for another time" And don't debate it or I will report you cause the main topic is a bitch fest mixed with panhandling?

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you bought your ps3 because you could jailbreak it.....assuming you even knew about it before you bought it.

Tell you what, Establish a reputable company that produces leading tech & then we can discuss consumer/product integrity.

 

Don't be naive. One of the main reasons the XBox 360 and Wii outsell the PS3 even being inferior consoles (I know that's debatable, so let's not start a flame war over that, OK? ) is that their games are easily pirated.

Being myself a PS3 player and living and having traveled to poor countries (compared to U.S. and Western Europe) I can assure you very few people have PS3s for the sole reason they won't have money to buy its games. Here in Brazil a PS3 game costs about US$75 (even in the black market) while you can copy for free and burn a Wii/Xbox360 game or pay ~US$5 for it.

Why do you think PS2 still sells so much all over the world?

That's not to say piracy is a good thing, it's not, but I wouldn't be surprised if PS3 sales get a major boost if it gets effectively pirated.

PC gaming wasn't ruined due to piracy but because now we got consoles powerful enough along with huge HD-screens that provide a better experience, not to mention most gamers nowadays look for casual experiences, not the former hardcoreness of PC games.

You can't even use the PSP as an example because DS games are also pirated. The PSP sank mainly because its games suck badly, there are hundreds of $1 games in the app store way better than its $30-40 games.

 

Not sure why you chose to quote Pyro, what he said isn't naive at all.

As for what Sony are doing... sure, go for it. I don't hack my consoles anyway. I can understand why an extremely low number of people might be interested in it for academic reasons, but they've got plenty of other things to hack. Just let this one go and use the damn console to play legally-bought games and movies.

 

So, the short answer is, DON'T F***ING JAILBREAK!!! Everything that is wrong with 360 is coming over to PS3. I'm so glad Sony is stepping up and taking Geohot down.

Yes, this is a bunch of BS with all of this jailbreaking.

You agreed to their terms when you joined PSN, they can still play their PS3's offline while jailbroken, sadly enough.

I agree with every word of this post

Are you f***ing out of your mind, they bought those more because 360 came out earlier and was way cheaper than PS3 to start out, and Wii had the awe factor which is why people bought it like crazy. Pirating has nearly nothing to do with that. PC gaming can be played on a big screen TV. Piracy is what ruined it for the most part, and console exclusives.

 

That's completly impractical. If we Geohot gets 1000 page views per day, Sony will ask for over 365,000 IP addresses. It costs 120 dollars to look up an IP address, so Sony wants the ISPs to spend 43,800,000 dollars. There is a zero percent chance that they'll get to look up all these IP addresses.

 

While it irks me that Sony is constantly releasing updates to their firmware to prevent the hacking - and that firmware is generally cracked again within a day or two - every user of a console agrees to terms and conditions somewhere along the line. Sony has every right to go after those who do not adhere to the conditions they supposedly agreed to.

 

Perhaps it's not about getting every IP, maybe it's just a temporary campaign to shake the most frequent or apparent so that the mass effect will eradicate it on a whole scale much like Napster.

 

IMO, the problem, piratic intentions aside, is that consoles are so locked down that people see it as a challenge to hack them and run their own stuff.

If consoles were released more open, able to run homebrews, that kind of thing, then there would be no excuse for hacking and jailbreaking. But companies don't want to do it, because there's just no profit involved in doing so, and it'd be a large undertaking to create a secure console that's able to be tinkered with.
Of course, you could argue that people would still hack the systems because they still wouldn't be as truly open as a hacked one.

I agree with the idea that it's your console, you should be albe to do with it what you like. But if that leads to piracy and game-breaking hacks, then the company are well within their rights to try and contain it.

er....
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/03/05/federal-magistrate-allows-sony-to-look-up-visitors-to-geohot-sit/

 

I believe Geohot started hacking the PS3 because Sony removed the Other OS feature. Geohot believes that this isn't fair to people, and I agree with him, because it's like if Apple were to advertise the App Store as a feature of iDevices then remove it in an iOS update. It's not fair to consumers. If Sony wanted to remove the Other OS feature, they should've just removed it in future PS3s.

People believe that when 'you buy something, you can do whatever you want with it', and that's true to some extent. Yes, you can modify your PS3 physically. You can open it up, smash it, Sony doesn't care. But you cannot modify their software, you didn't buy their software you bought the PS3.

 

I don't agree that you only buy the console, not the software. Sony will have put money into developing the OS, and that cost should be factored into the price of a PS3, as well as the cost of providing a firmware update service.

 

There's a big difference between geting IP addresses, and associating those IP addresses with people, which is what I'm saying.

 

They don't need to associate those IPs with people, they're not trying to prosecute every single person who hacked the console. They're just using the IPs to compile data about how many people downloaded the hack, and what state those people live in so that they can decide which state to prosecute him in.

 

1. The main reason PS3 hackers went after the system in the first place is because Sony felt they had the right to remove the OtherOS feature from the system. Does a company have the right to sell you a product and not only tell you exact how you can use it but forcibly remove whatever features whenever they so choose? It's not like you have much of a choice when it comes to upgrading since you can't access the store or certain other features without doing so.

2. Regardless of every other action taken in the lawsuit asking for IP addesses and the names of the people behind them for basically anyone that's ever remotely had interest in the jailbreak even if they've never used it or don't have a PS3 is grossly overreaching, I don't care what a court says. This is a company that has always treated it's customers like criminals (audio CD rootkit anyone?) and at some point enough is enough.

I have no strong issues on the overall lawsuit one way or the other but in this one specific element of it Sony's lawyers have overstepped in a way I can't ignore and it's sickening. I bought my first Playstation on November 12th, 1995 and since then have purchased two more PS1s, two PS2s, two PSPs and a PS3 with a PS+ account. No more, they've finally gone too damn far and they'll never see another penny from me.

 

Don't get mad because people don't want you to alter the software you chose to purchase under their guidelines which could compromise it's integrity and the others whom choose not to exploit it.


If you want to run your own stuff build your own machine and establish your own network.

Argument over.

 

Yes, because it's written in the Terms and Conditions. OSX, iOS, Windows, etc. all have the same clauses; they belong to their owners, not you.