Oh please. Now you're trying to tell us that indie games aren't unique any more? What about Flight Control, Touchgrind, Cut the Rope, Angry Birds, Tiny Wings, World of Goo and Doodle God? All big sellers, all extremely popular. If anything it's the big name games that are scared to experiment and like to stay safely within their established genres; Street Figher, Call of Duty and Need for Speed haven't done anything especially new in forever. You know how much money it takes to create a game right? Yes, indie devs probably have day jobs, but their salary is getting sucked away by the development process and putting a good quality game on the App Store is going to cost tens of thousands. That's not the kind of money people are prepared to just throw away without a fight. TouchArcade is one of the biggest indie-supporting websites on the internet. The forum in particular is packed with hundreds of developers trying to scrape a living by doing what they love and the last thing they want is to read something as ignorant and disrespectful as "screw them". What you call "real" iOS games, I call stripped down versions of their real console counterparts. If you want innovation on the App Store you need to look towards the little guys.
The very people who complain about quality are the same ones who causes lack of quality. Developers arent here to serve anyone they are here to make great games and a decent living. What I see here is making the Nintendo Chairman sound right. He said IOS people will start devaluing a developer work and you people are proving him right.
This is absurd. You are saying that the "real" iOS games are the ones made by companies that do it as an afterthought? You are wrong, iOS gaming is serious business now. There is a reason that EA is buying everything in sight. These big game devs are or should be salivating at the success of small time companies such as Rovio, who currently has a 37,000% profit with Angry Birds. Do you even know what you are complaining about?
Backtothis, thanks mate, you made a good point there, I wish I learned english sooner, because learning when you're already an adult is a real hassle. To prove my point, take a gander at these posters I've quoted below. Miss the point there again, I never did ask for higher quality game/port. I was giving examples. No, I was not being specific, so, sorry about that. I was referring to devs who use artworks from other games or movie posters and create games with little to no innovation whatsoever. Original games are plentiful in the App Store, developed by devs that we never even heard of before and they are the ones who made hits like Angry Birds, Flight Control, etc. And I WAS against porting in the previous post and still AM, SF4, CoD, NFS are the ones that fall under the category of what I call "endorsement games". And the FF games as well, though to their defence, FF3 is quiet good and they did put quiet a lot of effort in revamping the graphics for the iPad and retina display, and I love the franchise (mainly due to Nobuo Uematsu's musical genius), which brings me to another point, we can dislike ports, but there are fans of a specific franchise and chances are that is what those devs are after, as well as promoting the console version, of course.
Cool, they've added fuel to the fire!... but wait - Hey, I can't bash on him, he's a buddy from the Orions 2 thread. Bad luck, my troll career came quickly, now it went away quickly.
Yeah, I had a feeling that post would end up here ... I admit I should thank you more often for your updates on Orions 2: Electric Bugaloo, which are quite helpful, but ... ... no one really gives a sh*t about where you think the price point on an iPad card game should be.
If nobody gave a shit, price comments would remain in whatever game thread they began in. The mods care for moving it, and you care for following it here. I find it amusing how such a little comment like that is swiped up and sent here. The mods here really have too much time on their hands.
umm they move it here exactly because nobody give a shit. Nobody wants to read through 50 pages of bitching about prices when they are at a thread to read up about a game. They want to read about how it runs, how it looks, how fun it is, etc. They don't wanna hear.. 5$?!?!THAT IS WAY TOO MUCH!!! THESE DEVS ARE GREEDY! LET'S BOYCOTT!!!
If I didn't care about a messy room, why clean it up? If I didn't care about school, why go? If people didn't care about the price comments, they would ignore it and move onto the next comment. They care so they move it. And if there are 50 pages of bitching, I think the developer probably does have a pricing issue. Since I first heard you all talk about people whining about prices in the Games section, I have kept an eye out for it and have hardly noticed any complaining at all except in the MMOPRG and IAP rooms, where price can directly affect gameplay.
ummm the mods move the crap posts here so that people can ACTUALLY find posts about the game? duh? and honestly, 50 was an exaggeration for one thread unless it's massive or it's this thread, which is also massive. But the dev prolly doesn't have a pricing problem when a ton of people agree that it is well worth the money and only a select few that complain if an app A. Isn't nearly awesome enough for their tastes, or B. is priced at something that they deems is too high (which for some is higher but others can be 2.99 to 4.99 and up). Point is, people don't care for the posts complaining about prices. They want to know about the game. your analogy was terribly dumb, btw. the point is, people DO care about the FORUMS but DO NOT care about the COMPLAINING. btw, most people don't care about school but still go? IDK where you were trying to go with that?
Fresh post from the Thor game thread in the upcoming games section. It's hard to believe you don't see these posts..check out any games that aren't $0.99.. You're right, the mods care about these posts, but not about their contents. They just care about getting rid of them as fast as possible to remove the build-up of useless posts in a thread that should be about the game itself. Ouch looks like the majority doesn't think Canabalt is worth it anymore, lol.
I'm pretty sure I was only talking about you all caring so much about price comments. But it's okay, I don't mind your aimless ramblings and stating of the obvious. A couple goals for college: learn to use question marks appropriately and if you are going to act like a little kid and call something someone says "dumb," perhaps include an explanation why? Lastly, saying that people don't care about the complaining may be true in some instances (like myself) but you are here engaging every price complaint that comes your way. Ah the hypocrisy. It's obvious that you care, the real question is "why!?"
But that is not necessarily a complaint, just a useless post. Of course nobody cares about that guys personal decision to wait to buy a game at a lower price. So, send it on over here! I guess I've just seen so much bullshit in forums that I can just skip past those comments without even thinking about it. My only concern would be when a legitimate price related question comes up - is it just trashed as well? Like I've said before, the extent of my price complaint has been isolated to this thread in regard to ff3, a game I have made a strong argument against being overpriced in relation to other premiere titles. But if people complain in the FF3 game thread, should their comments be categorically dismissed and relegated to the garbage. Whether you agree or not, complaints can send a message. Take kindle e-books as an example. Some publishers are unwilling to accept that people don't want to pay the same amount for a digital book as a new release hardback. Customers realize that it doesn't make economic sense and often revolt by giving one star amazon reviews and driving down the overall score, which can be extremely detrimental. I bet the publisher may think twice next time they do that. I am not inciting people to complain, app store prices are awesome! But if square Enix thinks it can set the high price ceiling with an updated version of an antiquated game, I'll voice my opinion (which I clearly have...)
Ahaha correcting my mistakes. Please tell me that was a joke. It is clear you were not talking about me and the people trying to make others realize the invalidity of their arguments due to your mention of the mods in previous posts and talking of moving posts, since only mods can do that. And with the question marks, do you ever talk to people? Do you message people? Cause this is informal; we aren't using ?'s correctly! Ooh!! The sky is falling! Lol. I do in fact know proper grammar, but hell, who cares as long as thy understand?.... And it was dumb for many reasons. 1st analogy: throwing a nice dinner party, but the living room's a mess. You may not care about the room , but you care about the bigger picture. Same on TA. If it weren't for these price posts, Idk what else would be bad about TA. And the second... Well that would take an entire essay to say everything wrong with it. Btw, I post here occasionally if I see something completely over the top... Idek how to say it. And every one? Far from it. I have a max of 10 posts in this thread. And you? THAT is hypocrisy at it's best. P.s. I'm on an iPod. Excuse any errors. Plus, please let's keep this civilized... I've seen what has happened in this thread before. didn't mean to be a d btw, just debating
well, it all depends on what it is compared to. Only if you compared to iOS games is it overpriced. And even then, it is still rather reasonable. In fact, don't get me wrong, I love iOS prices, but many iOS games are, in fact, underpriced. Compare it to the D.S. version of lesser quality or any other game of similar quality on other devices, and it is severely underpriced. IMO, the only way to go is to compare it to your salary. At minimum wage, this should take, what, 3 hours to make, at most? And it gives you many many hours of entertainment. However, you should really only own an idevice if you are making decent money, as these are better ways to spend money if you don't. For kids, this may seem like a lot, but really? there are contests within our own forums, beta tests, and gift cards as presents or that you could earn. As a kid, you don't have to pay for anything at all really. Hell, I'll admit, I can't work quite yet, soon, but not yet, and the only giftcards I ever had handed to me were during christmas in 09. 50$ that was mostly all spent. But, hell, there are plenty of ways to get money for iOS games' cheap prices. I can't really say anything but junk apps are overpriced. Sorry about another rant.
Holy crap! What just happened in this thread? Last time I checked there were only about 1,000 posts. Damn. You really miss a lot in a week.
