Agreed. No worries. I hate when people just come on here and start saying that us users don't know anything. If we did not know anything then why are we on TA? And why have we joined TA before them. If they knew more than us they would have joined this site a long long time ago.
I need to point out that when I posted those comments in this thread, I was in defensive mode because I thought that kids who are buying apps with their allowance and not with their hard earned cash were the ones that I was going to have to argue with. Reading your post, I realise that you're not one of them and I apologize, but I need some things clarified: 1. Do you read the app store terms and condition (which they change quiet frequently, I might add)? Because I don't and it might shed some light as to how Apple does its business. 2. You said it! On a slightly different topic, I hate those debates between faith vs science or theism vs atheism, because as bright as the speakers might be, they're dumb and blind enough not to have seen the very fact that humans are basically animals. As smart as we can be, the reptilian part of our brain kicks in most of the time. 3. No, what I meant to say is, your earlier post sounded as though you are putting me in the same lot as those who doesn't want to pay money for apps. The last bit, I agree with most of it apart from the bit when you say "When you want quality, you gonna have to pay a decent price for it. That's how it works. Forget everything else." To me, price does not necessarily equal to quality. Final Fantasy 1 is a poor game if we were to be honest with ourselves, but I still bought it because I'm a big fan and never actually played the game before. But graphic and gameplay-wise, the game is poor compared to across age, zenonia, and what have you which are sold cheaper. FF2 is basically the same but it has a very fascinating story, and it has somewhat eliminated FF1's big problem (play it now, leave it for a month, and you won't know where you need to go the next time you play it). So please explain your way of thinking that putting a price tag of $15 can guarantee a good game, because I've seen great ones but the devs decided to sell them for around $5 for some reason (and we can speculate why). Though I do agree that devs shouldn't put themselves in the position where they feel enclined to sell their apps for a dollar simply because they want recognition.
The App Store terms & conditions say nothing about how it's economics work... Apple don't seem to know how to control that aspect anyway. Hence the mess. Hence developers releasing perfectly good games that instantly get lost and become forgotten. Hence two developers releasing $0.99 games of similar quality, one becoming a millionaire and the other becoming backrupt.
Okaaaay. When we are all dumb idiots and you're so smart, why is such a garbage thread in existence? Do you know what the most stupid thing about this whole "price discussion" is? Simple: the "discussion" itself. I never understood why there is a discussion. Dp you go to the cinema and discuss the ticket prices? Do you go into the bakery and discuss the ridiculous high cake prices? Or an even better example: do you start a political and economical discussion at your gas station when the oil and gas prices are raising? I doubt it. So, who are we that we dare discussing the prices which the devs are setting for their apps? And when Midian, the Duke, backtothis, all others and me are all just trolls, why do the people tend to agree with us instead of you? I give a shit about all your economical nonsense - all I need is some common sense and a bit sense of fairness. You're lacking this. We have a lot of nice devs here and had a lot of good discussions a while ago, we're their customers and I care about them, at least a bit. And all these whiners and complainers are doing nothing than repeadly insulting them. If respect, fairness and a common sense means that I am a troll - I love to be a troll. And all those you named got the balls to raise their voices against the BS you are spreading. Every one of them adds more to this thread with just a single post than you with all your postings together. Go, learn some respect. You might need it sometimes.
This is rather humorous actually. First of all, no one is trolling around here - it is an open thread that anyone is free to read and contribute to. Just because you agree or disagree with a point does or does not make you a troll. Laughable. Second of all, price "discussion" is not a legitimate issue in the least. Devs set it. Consumers pay it or not. Whiners whine. A "discussion" dumping zone thread is not going to change the powers that be within an developer's head. And if you think it will you need to think again. Or you think you are much more powerful than you are - cuz you are a blip on the App Store consumer graph. One user. One user that will not make or break any app. Third, I have seen no one "marginalize" your view or gang up on you. The members that you mention are the ones trying to get you to understand that you are not the App Store CFO setting all the prices. They are trying to get YOU to see the reality of the situation. Apparently you are so stubborn you will stick to you ideas no matter how wrong they are and will argue just to argue. The only shill I see is you. What are you trying to prove? What point are you trying to make? You are looking foolish. The thread takes random posts from legit threads and dumps them here rather than deleting them and that makes you think that MOST of TA wants lower prices and consider it a legitimate issue? Because of this one thread? Did you NOT get the point made by countless others to you? If you can't understand this thread then you certainly won't understand why a game CAN be more than 99 cents. Can I interest you in an Android - their apps are pretty much all free.
When did I refer to economics? You are really losing track of the discussion Now you are just rambling and speaking in broad generalizations. You sound so rattled, it's very unbecoming.
Me so sorry, me just dumb Oxford English troll and not understand and not cannot express better. Me only speak simple. U mad now? Me now go back to cave and eat raw t-bone steak. But me like to remind that you called names.
As horrible as this thread is, I'm overjoyed that we've managed to detain price arguments to a single thread. Now that people who incessantly need to post 1000+ word diatribes on the value of 99¢ games have an outlet, individual game threads are so much more pleasant to read. All we need now is a "A game I want is out in New Zealand and I'm really excited and have nothing to say!" thread and we'll really be making headway to readable game threads.
The fun thing is that people meanwhile noticed that all their price complaints are landing here. I noticed that the complaints are getting rare lately, not much additions to this thread lately. We are working really hard to keep this thread visible for everyone! The .99$ complainers are starting to die out. It seems as if this thread was a major success for you.
So you enter an "iOS pricing discussion" having already determined that it isn't a legitimate issue? Makes sense Thanks for the obvious remarks. Problem is, I don't recall ever intending to change the system, just voiced my opinion on the high cost of FF3. No, the only point all of you are trying to get us to understand is that questioning prices is not tolerable to you. That's cool, but at least have a substantive argument. Again, more generalizations not applicable to my previous comments in this thread. You are clearly lumping me in with every single person who has posted here. I made my point quite awhile ago, try reading up if you didn't grasp it. Right now I am only commenting on the fact that a group of you are sitting around here waiting to argue with anyone who gets tossed into this price discussion garbage bin. Since you don't consider price a legitimate discussion topic, I have nothing more to talk to you about. Um, no. I have an Android phone and they are not all free. They are generally inferior to the iphone versions and are overpriced. I think Doodle Jump cost $3 last time I looked. But don't dare question the price!!
Do juvenile detention centers really have internet access? That might not be too bad of a deal if so.
Good points, NEG. Only like to add that all these price discussions just have the reason that some people want the bread buttered on both sides and also jam on it. All these discussions because of greed. Cheap apps mean you can buy more. And some people never get enough.
In Germany, yes. It's more like hotels today. TV, Radio, Consoles like X-Box and stuff, Training Rooms, Internet rooms, everything. Keeping them entertained means they don't make shit. Here, look, found an cool American center: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/courts/jdr/jdc/jdc08phototour.htm
