I'm going on a limb and repost what I said earlier because I haven't had anyone who wants to see more and more expensive apps give any kind of a counter argument. "Chrono Trigger, for me. Heck I'll pay the same price as FF3 if they were to release the iOS version in 3D. But that's asking too much, I reckon. But if they do release it with the same 2D sprite graphics (revamped for higher res ala SoM) at the same price of FF3, then screw it. I'm happy with my SNES (which still works after all these years, unlike iDevices which has the lifespan of a deer living close to a highway). I agree with natedogg213, and would like to remind these sell-them-higher fanboys that iPod Touch and iPhone didn't start out as a gaming platform and the platform has been embraced as one only recently. Back then, the competition is healthy, because devs are trying to figure out the best selling price for their apps as those who start the trend get to decide the general pricing trend. In two years, it has become somewhat established that the pricing of apps in the App Store is somewhere between free to $9.99 (US dollars, as I've pointed out, we who live in Australia pay higher due to the oh-so-fair Apple's currency policy). Along came big developers, we didn't invite them, did we? We were happy playing wee games for less than $5 a piece. Crappy as they may sound, some of them were quite enjoyable and some were even made to look, feel, and play like a console game, but these big devs started to push the limit of the hardware, surely Apple is more than happy to oblige which is why in later years, we see more powerful hardware and features being introduced to the iDevices. Then what comes next is you people wanting more and more big devs to come and make iPhones (initially a phone and organizer hybrid) and iPod Touch (entertainment iPod, iPhone without the phone) into a proper gaming platform. BUT! Look at the reality of things, please! Is there a way for you to keep your saved games in your iDevices? Maybe in the future, we don't know. As it is, we don't have that kind of feature and what kind of a gaming platform doesn't keep save game files? If it was a nokia organizer, thing wouldn't be the same, right? Apple got extremely lucky with iDevices and you sell-them-higher-please-oh-developers type of gamers don't realize that you're like bots sending more money to Apple and bigger devs while all of those pioneering devs who started the pricing trend on iOS a few years earlier die out and forgotten. So this is why I don't understand why people can't see that they have fallen victim to a classic case of capitalism. Some even think that capitalism is the best thing that ever been invented by humanity! Sad... I'm sad... "
This one made me laugh. You still haven't understood the nature of this thread, no? 1. Ridiculous pricing discussion from other thread is moved into this thread. 2. "Cheapskate" comes and continues discussion about the ridiculous high app prices. 3. Other members without unadjusted points of view read these posts and laugh. 4. Other members start making fun of these posts: a) CS pouts and leaves the stage or b) CS leaves more ridiculous statements and finally leaves or c) CS gets angry and leaves sooner or later or d) CS admits he was wrong (hasn't happened yet). 5. Situation calms after a while. 6. New ridiculous price discussion is moved into this thread, go to point 2. Now the simple explanation: this is a garbage thread, you can tell this by looking at the thread name alone. Most things here aren't supposed to be taken serious. Clear?
Good thing you're not American. Once I've deleted a game from my iPod, I've already gotten my money's worth out of it and played it to an amount I've seen fit for that game. What the hell do I need save files for? If you're hoping for updates, just keep the game on the iPod. Buy a f**king 64GB if you're going to give us this bullshit. Data files are the future. We won't have any use for clumsy disks and high prices for shelf space/transportation that come with the games on other devices. And um, hell yes we invited these bigger developers to the iOS. What the hell? Steve Jobs has already acknowledged that the iPod Touch is a full gaming device that markets games that can compete with those on the PSP/DS a long time ago. Christ, why don't you just go back to playing your consoles, and leave us in peace. I, for one, will be updating my device annually in September and buying all the games I want with satisfaction and no complaint about their meager prices. The bigger companies didn't ruin the competition. The race to the bottom $0.99 price point did. We haven't been affected by shit. It's you who's fallen prey to the childish mindset and entitlement that infects iOS customers like the plague. Here on TA, most of us have been vaccinated. Get your's today. Plus, are you sure know the first thing on capitalism? It sure doesn't sound like it. Yeah, imad. But f**k, umad more bro.
+1 Sigworthy, but way too big. Gaming never was cheaper than today. They just don't seem to get that all we want is: paying decent prices and more quality games in the App Store. In the end, devs need money for food and toilet paper, too.
I've got a 64gb ipad and 32gb iphone 3gs, have to split my games to both devices to fit them in. Save files need to be saved because I love games and I love to play the new ones to give them a go and sometimes I have to delete the ones I hardly touch to make room for the new ones so by the time I have the old ones back in to play them again, thanks to the current state of iOS I have to start from the beginning again. Plus I love rpg games, and sometimes you just want to keep them so that you can play through the end part or level up more after finishing the game just to kill time, so yeah, to me, it's really important. Again with the entitlement, it's like speaking to a fundamentalist with you people. Hopeless. Yeah, I know more about the idea behind capitalism and socialism, liberalism and conservatism and what not, because I study history, media, science, art, economy, and politics. Doesn't matter if you don't get my point, most people who live in the west don't. At the end of the day, you haven't given me any counter-argument. What you've been telling me in your post is your specific individual point of view.
Install a brower / manager for your iDevices on your PC. Going to the private/var/mobile/Applications folder, you will see a ton of folders that will remind you of the windows registry. Each folder contains your application and it's saves. The folder is larger than your apps. For instance, I have 2.9GB apps installed, but the folder is 3.2GB. An example: I had Enigmo installed. I had played up to level 5, so I knew I had a saved game on the phone. I copied (backupped) the entire Applications folder to my PC for easy searching. I found the Enigmo under one of those huge-named folders. 121D0BD9-etc... I removed the app from my iPhone using the iPhone, then resynced with iTunes to let it reinstall. I started the game, and my save was gone. Using WinSCP, I browsed to my PC with the save files, and then looked on the iPhone. The folder had changed to BC116506-etc... so the folder structure changed, however the folders under that were exactly the same. I simply restored the Library/Preferences folder and restarted the game (did not have to reboot my iPhone for any of this). When it restarted, I told it to resume, and my Level 5 save was there. Some games may require more files to restore, however I suspect the folder with the program name is simply the app and won't change. I can't prove this, just my assumption. However, this shows that you can restore your save games, and that they are NOT linked with iTunes. Any more complaints?
Oh crap I'm desperately looking for one of these . Can I find a program that will work on a un-jailbroken iphone 4?
Yes, Vovin, you're working under the premise that my device is jailbroken. My iPad is, but iPhone is not. It's not really a complain though, why do people always miss the point? Thanks for the tutorial, but I've tried it and for some games, this method doesn't work.
Try mobilesyncbrowser. It works for me, but what it does is only restore you save games from an earlier backup files made by iTunes.
Not jailbroken? Air Sharing (available in the AppStore) might help maybe. Another option for savegame backups without jailbreaking: To gain access to iPhone’s files, use a utility called iPhone Explorer which is available for both Mac & Windows user as freeware. Connect your iOS device over USB and launch iPhone Explorer. Navigate to Apps > [Application which you want to backup]. You should be able to see a sub-folder called Documents. Drag this folder to a backup location on your computer. Usually, a single file is enough to restore the game saves. After you have deleted and re-installed the app on an iOS device, follow the same steps to replace the save file or the full Documents folder in the case of other games. For the changes to take effect, quit the application manually using the multitasking bar and then relaunch it. Might work.
Have you actually tried this yourself? Because that was the first thing I did when I tried to restore my Chaos Rings save game files from an old backup and it didn't work. I reckon it has to do with the game having the savegame files listed on the plist file which means that even though you have copied over the necessary files the game still won't be able to register them.
errm why dont you just use appbackup if you are jailbroken, thats what i did... it works great and you can transfer your saves to a pc
What I'd like to know is... how did yongkykun manage to type so much while seemingly having no real knowledge of the App Store and the game development business other than what he likes to see as a consumer? I too, would love an endless supply of quality games at little to no cost with no consequences to Apple, the developer or myself, but it's not quite as simple as that.
No, this text was saved on my PC, got it from the internet a while ago. Haven't tried it myself, therefore I wrote: "might work" at the end. But I'll try that later. I also found this: http://www.gadgetxtreme.com/how-to-transfer-save-games-on-iphone-and-ipad-without-itunes-and-without-jailbreak/ Looks like a backup guide for non-jb devices. Now back to topic, thanks Midian.
If you're so smart, enlighten me then instead of just insulting my intelligence. Economy is not an exact science is it? You really think that the app store is fair? Even though Australians have to pay more than Americans for apps? Game dev business is just like any other business, ain't it? BTW, it's not the cost that concerns me, it's the mindset. People thinking that big devs setting higher price can actually do any good, it's just naive. Remember that smaller devs (especially the one man show ones) are the ones that set the price low, so do keep that in mind when I say that big developers like SquareEnix who sets the price higher and higher doesn't really do any good because the competitors are setting the price low and it has been so since the conception of the App Store itself. Only fans would buy them and most of those who are not familiar with the FF series will be put off because, other devs who made similar games are selling them at lower than half the price that they set. And back to my point, Apple is making the iDevices more and more powerful with each new iteration because it has become known as a gaming platform in recent years, BUT IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE ONE therefore they just don't have the features of a proper gaming console ergo not intended to have the apps priced at the same level as a proper gaming console. Features within the iOS that we have seen so far point to that very fact (i.e.: airplay, facetime, HD camera, etc.). I hope they do use cloud services for save game files in the future iOS, but that still doesn't take away the fact that the iDevice was not intended to be a gaming platform. So stop this rubbish about comparing prices between App Store apps with PSP or NDS or what have you. That is all the point that I'm trying to make!
And you're doing an incredibly poor job of it. Although I will add that this thread is a perfect place for you.
