I dunno if anyone's noticed, but both of those are correct. The sky is blue and tomatoes are red. Since you're both right, how about you put it down to the fact you have different priorities on what makes a good game? Right now it's not even a discussion over price, it's just an argument over how good the game is, yet surely someone as intelligent as yourself would know that different people have different tastes and opinions... right?
I did notice, hence my illustrative example. Doesn't make them related, though, hence, my illustrative example See, that's the bizarre part, it never was a discussion over price except in the abstract, so I am particularly amused it all got dumped in this trash bin thread. When the only point I was ever trying to get across in this whole kerfuffle is that it was valid to critique the game for lack of endgame content even as soon as a week after launch because of the style and cost of the game and then backed up the assertion with supporting evidence, I don't even begin to understand how it became an issue. ----- At any rate, I opened up a slot in the Touch Arcade guild for someone more aligned with the powers that be since I'm obviously not the best fit.
Well, it's official, TouchArcade is a real guild. We've had our first forum drama rage quit, we're bonafide.
It's great that all the self-annoited "experts" on App Store pricing and the "worth" of games always end up at this point. Every time. They are the experts ... they know what true value is ... and, in their near-infinite grace, they will help us, if only we would just listen! Gosh darn it to heck!
This isn't a rage quit, just a "sigh, I give up" quit. Figured someone might appreciate the notice there was a slot available. Really, if you think it's a rage quit or I'm some sort of self appointed expert on value that doesn't get what you're so clued in on, you never even bothered reading my posts; just entertained yourself poking fun by deliberately not listening to someone else.
Believe me, I read your posts. We've seen the same bullshit around here enough times in the past few years. There's a reason we shoot it down immediately. We've heard it all before. It's not like your argument only applies to MMORPGs. Plenty of people have come and gone through TA.
Canabalt is a flash game with minimal content. I think it's missing the point entirely to argue whether something like that is worth $3 or only $1. There is a far bigger picture to deal with here. Like games that take a 1.5 years to develop, and yet stand virtually no chance of reembursing fairly the dev for the incredible amount of time, and possibly money, he has invested into the project. Virtually all indie games are more or less like Canabalt for this very reason. It's the only way indie devs can turn a profit. Make cheap games and sell cheap games cheap. It's all a bunch of crap, as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't download those games for free, much less pay the .99c that most of them sell for. I understand why devs do it though. What other choice do they have? My impression is that, in terms of mainstream sells, Aralon and Mission Europa didn't do so well.
I'm pretty sure you just said all indie games are a bunch of crap, which would kinda make you the #1 enemy of the entire forum.
So, do people post here or are all of these posts came from some other threads? I'm beginning to think that this thread is a glorified version of recycle bin. Anway, not complaining. I can rant when I want all I want.
Now it's getting really, really ridiculous here and this dumaz post was serious trolling. Yeah, I understood him in the same way. Funny, that games like Legendary Wars, Dungeon Raid, Infinity Control, PathPix and dozens of other high class titles are suddenly marked as crap, not even worth the download. Enemy #1 would fit. I just wonder why dumaz1000 fell on his head so hard and hasn't visited a doctor asap.
I'm actually quite new to this forum, being active only since the last month (thanks to Mission Europa ). Can someone fill me up on this rage quit drama? Just contributing to the discussion: I personally wouldn't think that Canabalt is worth its current price based solely on the fact that there are equal, if not better alternatives available to fit my tastes. The point I'm making here is that games always have their own target audiences, and people should equally decide if the game is in their opinion, worth the price.
Kudos! I just hope that none of our indie devs are reading this. Embarrassing. It just got more and more stupid with this confused Hannum dude... until dumaz1000 placed the crown of idiocy on this threads head.
Really? Because I think you didn't actually comprehend my posts, because if you had and you were still dumping on me as much as you are then you must agree with the following statement (the negation of my points): My position was not a general argument, it's not even applicable to anything except whether it's valid to critique Order & Chaos. Heck, it's not even a critique of Order & Chaos itself, merely a defense of the ability to genuinely critique it for the limited state it launched in because of the specific facts about the game, the genre, and its particular development. So, no, you haven't heard this before over the past few years because the game hasn't even been out two weeks.
Short version: Someone critiqued Order & Chaos for the basic level of its content and lack of endgame content. I defended that it was a valid critique of the game. Some posters insisted it was not a valid critique of the game solely because it was on iOS. I layed out with specific counter examples why it was indeed a valid critique, iOS or not. No one posting understood my posts, I made unsuccessful attempts to clarify why it was a valid critique, no one posting understood my posts... Site admin and a few old timers decided without basis that I was making some sort of whining post about the cost of the game, moved all the discussion to the trashbin thread and proceeded to tell me they know what I said better than myself. Since these people are the guild leaders, didn't feel like I wanted to be working with people who would treat me like that, so I decided I'd free up the slot for someone who did want to work with them. No rage, no real drama, just a bunch of people so convinced they know it all that they'll treat a grown man like it's the 9th grade locker room because they think it makes them look better.
