No, no, you've made your point by belittling mine. I understand. You want to pay more for iOS games without the justification for the increase in price, not because you're stupid, but because you want to win the argument by just having the last word. I'm not trying to start a fight, just prove me wrong, not with " your 15 " , but with relevant correlations and analogies that create intelligent discussion and thought. If an intelligent discussion about marketing (not gaming) pisses you off the same way telling a Democrat that Obama lied pisses them off, then understand that all the opposition is more concerned with "WHO's" right rather than "WHAT's" right. I have been nothing but purely analytical about this topic, and have even expressed-- in long freaking detail-- my views so that they would not be interpreted incorrectly by individuals with poor reading comprehension. But once again I have only received intelligent, yet biased responses by maybe only 2 people. All other responses have been purely critical of me, not "WHAT" i'm actually saying. It is very interesting to be confronted by someone that adds nothing to the discussion other than side-line criticisms equivalent to that of an Obese, reckless, drunk yelling at Kobe Bryant how shitty he is at defense. It gives these commenters a sense of importance in what is otherwise a useless existence.
I don't want to continue the discussion or the hate going on, but I'll post one more time here for the sake of it. I'm not offering anything new, but just going to reflect on what people are saying and your response. I told you yesterday that we should wait and see how the game did before coming to any conclusions. The game is currently at number 23, and still climbing the charts. It's number 4 under top grossing. This would lead me to believe that people are willing to pay the $15.99 without complaints for a game of such caliber. What's more is that the game's success isn't fueled primarily by nostalgic gamers. If you take time to read through some of the comments, you'll see that most of the buyers are playing their first Final Fantasy game..people know quality when they see it. Yes it's ancient now in the gaming world, but does that really affect what should be charged? The game uses new technology, fresh lines of coding, and plenty of work to port over to the iOS. It's a great makeover if you've played it. Your next point..see here's what we don't really know...you can assume Gameloft and EA will follow suit with prices that are much higher than they are now, but you don't know that. No one does. What I do know though, is that people aren't asking for higher prices for the heck of it, but in hopes of attracting the big name companies from other consoles over to the iOS with their "AAA" titles. The theory that this will be successful is just like your theory of EA and Gameloft..hard to say. Your next point..about developers and profit. Do you really think the reason why well-known gaming corporations haven't ported over their games is because they can't due to hardware limitations? The thing is, the quality of iOS games can increase at an exponential rates if proven companies would find some reason to come over to this platform. What kind of reason? Money, undoubtedly. If Blizzard truly saw the iOS as a place where they could sell, lets say, even the FIRST Diablo game for $19.99 successfully, they'd get to work right away. That's what we're arguing for. That's what many, many gamers want. You know very well that the iOS is looked down upon due to the limited number of what people consider "console quality" games. That's because the people making these games aren't here. I appreciate indie developers as much as the next guy and shell out the money to buy every new worthwhile game they offer, but face it, they don't have the resources. They just don't. They don't have access to the graphics engines we're all dying to see on the iOS, and they don't have the manpower to code, design, and market new games at a rate that anyone could even call slow. We're not trying to make it harder on people with limited budgets to spend on entertainment. We're just hoping for the best for a platform that's really grown on us. At the very least, we don't need to fight the free market. The suppliers base everything off of demand, price being at the top of the list. If people truly find that prices grow too high, they would stop buying the games with these prices. Just let it play out. Haha, either way, I hope you took the time to read that through weehoo. I don't want to assert that I'm right, but it's just my belief based on being a very observing customer since the AppStore began and a strong economic background. Thanks for not flaming me in your response to this post.
How ironic that somebody calls me stupid while inferring that they are not a singular existence. You are a WOMAN not a WOMEN. My girlfriend is very smart and I give much credit to the accomplishments that women have achieved. However, it has always occurred to me that women do not use common sense in their arguments. This theory is supported strictly by the stereo-types that comedians, TV, movies, magazines and scientific peer-reviewed articles display about the subject. If you do not want to be generalized, leave the emotion at home and bring forth your opinion on marketing, not my apparently, arrogant mouth.
Wow, I guess I don't have your GPA to understand right. It's a misspelling...big deal. Now QFT. Last question and I'll leave the thread. How old are you woohee or weehoo?
Not free, but not set for premium gaming. You can make an honest living being a "good" developer. If you think that raising the prices means raising your standard of living, you're in for a big surprise. Apple lowered the cost of all their devices/computers, and now (according to Forbes) are the largest profitable company in the world next to Exxon/Mobile. I'm also surprised that people think I'm soooo cheap. That's ultimately hilarious if you only knew me. In college we are taught to observe and analyze any fluctuation in a market with the utmost scrutiny. What we want to believe and what is real are very different. I informed people of the start of something potentially ominous (like USA national health care bill), and received the typical response I learned a long time ago in sociology; denial and disbelief by ignorance. Yeah i know people took various sociology classes, and (C-) their way through it. Don't be recalcitrant because you don't like me. ********** I feel like Ron Paul, protecting the integrity of the app-store and pointing out a potential threat, while the people who will benefit from my view and reasoning blatantly attack me without understanding the full implications of their actions. **********
Okay enlighten us. 1. What big games have you made yourself for the App Store? 2. What did you do as far as pricing to make customers happy? 3. What actions are you currently taking to ensure the App store prices remain reasonable?
It's not the GPA that will help. It's your willingness to learn. You won't learn. You will continue to have an opinion based on knowing nothing. -------"Those who do not read, will base their decisions, arguments, and beliefs on what they "KNEW", not what is "KNOWN."--------- This debate was here before you were. Please don't jump in. As I said before, if you don't provide any substance to the argument, then just observe.
I this a joke thread? Come on guys- fess up and stop messing with us; whose alt is Weehoo anyway? Nobody can actually be that much of a self-righteous d-bag, can they? Anyway- it certainly seems that FFIII is doing well, sales-wise, doesn't it? The existence of triple-A titles on the app store is definitely a good sign of its growing acceptance amongst high-profile developers. It's funny, though- a lot of people are long-term fans of Square Enix games, and even amongst the real hardcore, they still acknowledge the 'Square Enix tax', whereby S-E games DO tend to cost more than those of other companies. IS it corporate greed? Who knows, but there is definitely a significant audience willing to put the cash down on their games.
That's like asking a voter to not care about taxes because: "What policies have you written?" "What votes did you get?" "What programs are you creating to help people?" What they're "REALLY SAYING"-----more money more money more money. ---------Stop listening to 50cnt and start listening to Mozart. That's the job of the developer, not the customer. There always needs to be a check/balances for anything. That includes gaming markets.
So what's your excuse for still being here? You don't provide substance, just an understanding that apparently no one agrees with. I'm happy you got a college education. Good for you. Unfortunately you lack experience. It's just sad when you see kids that come from some "ivy league" thinking that just cause they have education, then they have it made. While people may understand what you're saying, (and yes we do understand, we are not as stupid as you think) we don't, or I don't agree with your way of thinking. Here in America we are able to have an opinion. I don't know where you get off? Just cause someone doesn't want to "debate" with you, it doesn't mean that we can't offer a valuable argument. It just means that their is no use arguing with you. Hence...beat a dead horse! And I don't have to observe just because you don't like me here. I don't like you here...and yet here you are!
WTF does 50 Cent have to do with anything? See what I didn't do, correct your spelling...what am I saying...yes I did. Cent would be a name...which means what? Yes proper names start with a Capital!
Gonna say it again - it is an open forum, anyone can comment whenever they want. Threads have been resurrected from the dead months after anyone posted just because someone had an opinion. Who are you to choose who can and can't argue in this thread? And not only are you anti-American, now we can add sexist to the list too. Women can't do this, women can't do that, women won't learn, women are emotional, women can't spell. Coming from someone who still didn't admit misspelling your for you're. Surely you were not raised to be respectful to adults (add: I see no respect from you to anyone actually). I feel sorry for your parents.
Also to factor in much larger companies face much larger cost just to operate. 99 cents in nothing when you include tax and apples cut developers barely get half. You guys see a few millionares and assume developers are rich. What you guys need to do is look at the overall picture. There are always high quality and low quality. Higher quality materials cost more then low quality materials. Most developers are poor trying to live a normal lifestyle. Yes there are greedy developers , but thats the exception not the rule. Most developers could make longer , deeper games if they had thier bills payed for longer periods of time.
It was a reference to the influence of desiring unattainable amounts of money. You realize that this thread is a debate about iOS marketing right. All you have to do is read. Did you think this was the doodle jump thread?
Stop the fighting already! Geezus! With the 50 cent and womens rights and the GPA and mozart and the random bablling. Just close this thread already before it gets out of hand.
Signs of a troll 1) boasting 2) use of large unnecessary words 3) correcting spelling And I agree....... U MAD.
