We're mad as hell about iOS games that cost money, have ads, and/or any IAP at all.

Hold up, so you are trying to prove your point by making up bogus numbers? Seriously!? Where do I start:

-Square/Enix has way more than 100 employees. Try around 3,000
-Utilities don't generally cost 40 percent of rent, c'mon now
-Computers that won't be available in 10 years? That's how they made the awesome graphics for FF3!? Quit making stuff up...
-You are making up salary figures now? Where did you get these? Are they an average?
-They don't get paid for overtime!? Playing along with your B.S. wouldn't you be suggesting that we pay more to the company that treats its workers unfairly?
-Marketing and ADs - $300-$500 dollars per ADs spot? They are a multimillion dollar corporation. Aren't we getting in the weeds a bit now!?

SO NO, I don't get the point of your made up post, but you keep going!

-The 30% Apple take is part of doing business, and is a good deal to get your content distributed to the masses.
-I'm not even going to get into the taxes. Your simplification is misleading at best and ridiculous at worse. Do you take into consideration operating expenses, tax credits, deductions. Like I said, not going there....

To tie this back into the thread, this game is $16, not $9, and it pales in comparison to high end titles that I mentioned previously. For you to have the nerve to tell us all to "do research" when you obviously didn't do so makes me laugh. Like I also said earlier, if you love this game and don't mind paying $16 then get it, but don't try to make an argument that it makes sense that they charge that much, because it doesn't. I base my argument on precedent, and there is none. No other high profile title I have seen has been near this much $$.

 

My sons response to FF being less than $14.99, "It' FF, I would have to ask what was wrong with it if I saw it at $4.99!"

 

That's what I said, and that comes from a 15 year old...without a 4.0 GPA.

 

You noted that nobody commented on this. I'll give it a shot since you seem so proud of it, but it's abstract because I am not sure when you intend it to be sarcastic or not because I don't know your political affiliation.

Get over it. GOVERNMENT is an amazing SERVICE and the price mirrors the quality. First off, government isn't a service, it provides services and the level of quality varies. Medicare treats people well, federal workers get nice benefits, etc. -

Greedy? I don't think so. If anything, they are asking a little too little for their SERVICE. It is true that government is asking too little from taxpayersl! One of the reasons we have awful budget deficits is because tax rates are so low. But the greedy part doesn't really apply, it's more just pols being stupid!

Everyone has gotten so used to the idea of TAXES being super cheap, yet they want HELPFUL HONEST GOVERNMENT, but don't wanna pay HELPFUL HONEST price. First part is true, but I don't understand the correlation to "helpful, honest government" and the last part is just a reiteration of the first.

The TAXES are PROFITABLE for ELITES and it's about damn time we start seeing HIGHER TAX prices. I'd say "beneficial" since taxes don't result in profit, but are what is taxed. So because elites (businesses, rich people) are being benefited, there should be higher tax rates? I would agree with that. But aren't you being sarcastic?


You get what you pay for. Do some research before you PAY the TAXES, or wait till you are all 18 and then apply for your own LOAN. This doesn't make much sense at all.

Stop bitching is you are using your parent's IGNORANCE to INDOCTRINATE YOURSELF INTO STUPIDITY. Jesus #Fact: It ain't your moneh!
This doesn't make much sense at all either.

In conclusion, I don't know what to think of your mad lib, it seems creative but just doesn't make much sense.

 

u mad?

Wow, I feel stupid just for typing that!

 

I think he was being sarcastic.

 

I know, I just wanted to play his lil' game too

 

I edited the comment because it was distasteful.
Do not get confused between an attack and a retaliation. If you go back and read every post from page 7 until now, you will see how this conversation heated up. Don't just read the last page and complain.

I am fighting for fair app-pricing and how companies collude to create set-pricing. Now that AT&T is buying T-mobile, you don't think that there will be even more set-pricing and collusion between Sprint, Verizon and AT&T.

This is reality: if Square Enix gets away with this and it becomes very profitable, EA and Gameloft will do the same. Sounds good, except you will now pay $14.99 for new games that would have otherwise been $6.99 and with the same incremental increases in graphics. You are not understanding the point. Just because price goes up, doesn't mean quality will go up. Quality will always improve at a constant rate depending on the hardware. High prices spark developer interest, not increase artistic quality. Developers are always trying to maximize the use of new CPU/GPU's despite low app-store pricing. It's called competition.

Why so much hate for making sense. Nobody has seriously challenged this other than responding with child-like remarks. Then interestingly enough, I'm accused of instigating the situation instead of retaliating the derogatory opposition. Truth is always met with denial, then violent opposition, and when thought through clearly, finally realized and accepted. Don't hate someone for disapproving fiscal increases in what is arguably the greatest digital store in the world and the best value for your buck.

I've heard that I'm arrogant and self-righteous. However, if you actually ponder on what that really means, my intentions are humble, to keep the app store fair and reasonable. Developers want more more more money. The app store is like a grocery store, the gold rush is and was over a long time ago.

 

Government is the subject. (FF3)
Service (game) is what the Government provides.

It was meant to show the sinister undertones and the subconscious intentions of the original statement. You can sometimes interpret the legitimacy of legal/business contracts when altering key words.

A lot of people think we should pay twice the amount of money, for the current games coming out. They believe that if they charge us more, then they'll pour more quality into the development. They don't understand that the rate of development is strictly hindered by the hardware's ability, and believe that if we pay more for 20-year old ports, then they'll pull some miracle, high budget games out of their all-knowing, all-wise arse. This is a fallacy that certain individuals can't overcome, and will certainly defend with intelligently-deprived responses, as well as obscure accusations of the message I'm trying to relay.

 

No one is going to debate with you. There is no sense in beating a dead horse!

 

Wow, words of wisdom. I think you've now reached 12 whole sentences on Touch Arcade this year. They were even complete sentences. You sure do talk a big game Mr., but you haven't written anything worth reading in your entire life. I bet the professor had to send you back to English -001 (ESL).

BTW:

This is not an aggressive exchange of words from my end, but a retaliation to your extraordinarily wise comment.

 

Well why doesnt anyone come with so numbers to argue thier point. I see alot of we believe this and we believe that with absolutly nothing to back it up.
Developers for Enix make around $40,000 - $70,000 a year based on title and exp. Everyone who has done any research or is a developer knows what is the industry standard. You prove to me that I made up these numbers.
Lets just talk indie developers because some people cant stand large numbers.
A average indie developer takes 2-3 months to develop a game. So in that time span who is going to pay his rent , utilities, phone bills.
Lets say his rent is $500 a month and his gas ,electric,phone bills,etc are also $500 a month. Plus he consumes lets say $200 dollars a month on food. Iam taking the lowest cost not the highest.
So 1 month = $1,200 total which is very low.
Now it takes him 3 months to design , code , test, draw graphics, his game.
So total for 3 month is $3,600 dollars. Now the developer has to re-coop all that money and pay for his next development cycle.So at 99 cents how many apps does he have to sell in order to break even with his 1st development cycle? Factor in the price is 99 cents and apple takes 30% plus he has to pay taxes.
Lets say he sells 10,000 copies. 30% goes to apple now which is minus $3,000. Now he has $7,000 dollars. Another 30% which is $1,400 gone. He now has $5,600 left , now take out the bills which is $3,600 and he has left over now $2,000 . For his next development cycle he now has to rush the app because he didnt make enough money to support his last development cycle. That leads to crap in the appstore. Had he been able to charge more, he would have more money for his next development cycle to make a better app. And this is the type of person you call greedy , then you are a moron.

 

First off you spoiled little sh*t. I'm not the one that people are getting frustrated with. It is your holier than thou attitude that people are upset at. And you can try to justify why the price should be lowered all you want, it doesn't mean it's going to change anything. It's no ones fault that you don't get enough allowance money to be able to afford some of the better games. Get a fu*ken clue already and quit speaking.

BTW...For someone that is so smart, you sure are dumb. Just looking at my profile you would know that I'm a women, but you don't learn common sense at school. 4.0 GPA or no 4.0 GPA, you are the most ignorant person I've ever come across!

 

Oh my god! This debate is still going on!?