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Coke or Pepsi

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  2. Pepsi

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  1. RttaM

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  2. Brazilian Rider

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    Oh Jesus Christ help us, you're back :(
     
  3. freedog

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    Freedog's Shooting Rage

    Happy that this guy finally got nailed. But terrorism still exists and so does al quaida... people who hate America and what it stands for.

    Control-freak liberals still wanna lie and make up any stupid excuse to try and take my guns away.

    I'm going target shooting tomorrow to celebrate freedom.
     
  4. ScottColbert

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    Try not to shoot yourself in the foot moron.
     
  5. Watabou

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    #10305 Watabou, May 2, 2011
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  6. freedog

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    don't worry dad, I'm not a frightened shaking liberal like you about guns, keep dreaming about taking them away from me though wimp.
     
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  8. squarezero

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    No. But it certainlty wasn't won by phony gun-totting internet "toughguys," either.
     
  9. freedog

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    ??? what's so phony about me owning guns and going target shooting. Don't understand why that makes liberals mad. Is that a crime?
     
  10. freedog

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    nice job quoting one of the biggest racists that ever existed.
     
  11. Watabou

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    This better be sarcasm.

    If not, I really worry about where you got your education from.
     
  12. squarezero

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    Nothing wrong about it -- in fact, my father had an extensive gun collection and I was a member of the NRA till I went to college. But I find it asinine when people equate owning guns with "freedom," and I believe that rational (and I stress the word "rational") gun control measures are compatible with target shooting as a hobby.
     
  13. Paradiso

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    You tell em :rolleyes:

    Also, if you don't get the point of gun control, you probably shouldn't be licensed to carry one.
     
  14. freedog

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    ok well owning them for legal reasons is a freedom. Target shooting is legal.
     
  15. freedog

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    To be fair, the guy was alive during very racist times. But if you read his books, he made racist slurs constantly. Many of his books had to be edited and are still being edited.
     
  16. squarezero

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    From Wikipedia:

    The slurs you are talking (mostly in the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn) were in common usage in the South at the time when the novel took place. Mark Twain was a man of his times and he certainly had prejudices (and I doubt that he saw black people as equals -- but then again, neither did Lincoln). But to say that he was one of the "biggest racists" is not only to be ignorant about Twain, but to be profoundly ignorant of the history of the US in the late 19th century, when black people were systematically robbed of the rights guaranteed to them by the emancipation and the 14th amendment.
     
  17. freedog

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    I see your point, many people just view it differently, but it is possible that he was just a reflection of the times, and no more racist than the average person back then. Believe me though, they had to edit an aweful lot of his books(not just one) because he went overboard with the slurs. They even had a documentary about it last month on tv.
     
  18. Watabou

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    Like squarezero said, it was common in those times. The reason it's edited today is because some people might be offended by it.

    If you read his books superficially, sure, he might strike you as a racist. But read it carefully and you will see that he was very much against racism and satires it greatly.

    Speaking as a liberal, I don't have a problem with you going target shooting. It's the owning of the gun I take issue with.

    Anyways, we're way out of topic here.
     
  19. The Bat Outta Hell

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    Oh yeah here we go. Another bullshit political argument that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
     
  20. squarezero

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    Trust me: I've read pretty much everything that Mark Twain has written in its original form. Regardless of the language, he was still much less racist than the average person of his day. Keep in mind that through the late 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century there were hundreds of organized lynchings, most of them all but sanctioned by the state. Groups like the Ku Klux Klan and the Citizens Council used both terrorism (in the case of the KKK) and economic pressure (in the case of the Council) to enforce the segregation and oppression of African Americans through out the South -- and beyond. This was not seen by most people at the time as controversial or problematic.
     

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