[INFO] Patrols vs. replaying Campaign missions, reward comparison Okay, so I just tried what Carabak suggested: Play Patrol missions - even if you cannot win them - to get Ore. Results: Replaying Campaign missions comes out much better. The topleft corner Patrol mission at level 31 gave me ~5k Ore for shooting stuff. I died (those are tough now) , so I didn't get any XP or items. Now, replaying Chapter 5 Crossfire Mission "Campaign": I played for ~15 minutes, 4-5 replays, then I hit the <60% repair treshold and stopped. ~15k Ore, plus ~7.5k XP, and a few items (both lower grades I sold and better ones I kept for forging). As long as you have Campaign missions to replay, either to 3-Medal them and/or because their loot drop chance didn't go down from "Common" yet, missions give out better overall rewards than patrols that - important! - you cannot win and get killed.
Ok sorry. I think when I got to that point I'd already ground the campaign missions quite a lot. When I replay patrol missions I get maybe 15-20,000 ore (3*5k) which is pretty good for what might be 30 seconds of blasting. Problem is once you've ground campaign missions a lot they become a bit tight for Ore. I might add this is just my way of doing things and, I grind ALOT!!!! Also they're good when you're mech is pretty mashed. (Also I tend to prefer earning Ore to crate drops...just me I guess).
@Carabak: No worries Always good to have data to compare. I play a lot less, a few 15 minutes smokebreaks at work, and an hour or two in the evening after the kid's in bed. I still need to complete grind down Chapters 5, 6, and 7. So you are ways ahead of me in progress If you get 15k-20k per Patrol, that's a lot better than what I score currently (and direly needed, I bet).
Problem when you xp too much replaying low level campaing mision makes patrol too difficult to finish. Patrols' difficulty increases with your level so you need to balance your wargear with your level to be able to clean the map. At level 31 you get 10-15k ore and ~5k xp by patrol. At level 39 you get 20-25k ore and 10k xp... Also patrol is the best way to drop high level items which you don't get if you die.
I'm an OCD grinding maniac!! I'd be grinding this game a whole lot more if it didn't crash after intensive play. Probably just as well!!
There may be some missunderstanding here. I first thought as well that the QUALITY goes up with Grind....which would be nice but contrare to the fp2 model (milk us to death) I believe what Nullzone really ment is the ACTUAL CHANCE to get an item goes down, so diminishing returns apply here. Only the listed item meant in the mission description before starting the mission is meant here obvoiusly, no idea about the in mission drops, as this isn't easily quantified without some serious in-depth research first...
FORGING found the sticking point. Level 25 on my other phone. Supply drops aren't good enough anymore (150P or 175Or) And I'm just at the max limit of what orange I can forge 5* 150P + 175Or = 196 Or If I level up, the items from salvage or supply drops will be too high level to make a legendary anymore. (The forge limit is triggered before all the items have been taken into the calculation).
@inuse: Interesting. I'm lvl 31, and I didn't get past making 174 Purples yet. But I have enough Purples in stock for later, than I hope I can make a few Oranges later. Only got one so far from a VERY lucky Salvage Team shot. At least for Blues and Purples: When I put the right combination of Greens/Blues/Purples in, I always get a Purple (100% chance) with my current max Forge WGR. Did you complete all Chapters already and maxed out your Forge?
Yes I've maxed my forge. I think this is the limit right now (aporox level 200 blue or maybe purple items from the forge) until and update comes out. Would be nice if I could downgrade some of my items (so they're low enough to be able to forge with), I have some higher level legendary items that take the forge past its limit so are relatively useless
Some points- just been replaying old missions for three medals as per Nullzone suggestion - after first few chapters this does yield better Ore than patrols but early on the Ore is limited more. What I DID notice is that the game ran real smooth with hardly any crashes compared to patrol missions. Slightly questionable technique for avoiding pesky forge-based loyalty quests- if you get a loyalty quest you don't like, quit the game and kill the app using swipe-out and restart (before starting any quest requirements) and it will magically transform into another one. Probably all obvious stuff I guess.
Forging and wargear I maxed out everything and forging is limited to 200 for blue items and 198 for purple items which is too low to complete patrols level 40... For the moment the only way to get better stuff is to drop level 240 purple items or get 240 purple and 280 gold items from salvage. A bit desappointing that you can't get a good end stuff with the forge and you need to rely on gold to buy salvage.
One tips on forging: You need ~150P + ~2 150B to get 1 198P. You can use 3G level 50-120 to decrease the forging costs without impacting the level and category result. Bottom line keep your low level green items up to level 120. Sell green items above level 120 as it will impact the forging results.
What I did for that score: I kept shooting at destructables whenever there was no enemy on the screen, to keep my score multiplier high. It was 6x for most of the stage, at one point I even got it up to 10x . And I missed at least 15k points by not going into melee with the 2 big guys in the stage. The shooting destructables is where the Stubber that you get regularly for Events comes in really handy. You can fire almost continuously for much longer than with the Meltagun. I only had to pause once in the whole stage, when I didn't pay enough attention and it overheated.
Are all you guys logging out of Game Center just to play this game? It keeps crashing on my air 2 when it initially logs into Game Center. But if I sign out I can play np.
Thanks I'll try that. I do shoot destructables a bit but definitely leave pauses so that's probably where it's gong wrong. Mmmmmm free gold.
