Universal Warhammer 40,000: Deathwatch - Tyranid Invasion (by Rodeo Games)

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  1. chuboi

    chuboi Well-Known Member

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    Medusa only drops in packs.
    The loot table is fairly complete now:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/115vT2_ShFUwynHvDl8BnaL3OU6tp_IKFp7SRkH324M8/edit?usp=docslist_api
     
  2. guaizz

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    #1682 guaizz, Aug 4, 2015
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    gotta be more careful with a Oathed Black rage...

    speaking of which, does Oath of Angels drop anywhere? or purely from packs.

    and also.. got my first Firescream on my very next run... Woohoo
     
  3. Birth1118

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    Thanks!
     
  4. Furious Jorge

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    #1684 Furious Jorge, Aug 4, 2015
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    If you want to take advantage of the Sternguards melta passive, I would def recommend Firescream. In almost all situations, its the best weapon for Sternguard in my opinion.

    Another great Tactical weapon would be Kraken's Breath. I personally love the flame weapons. They hit hard, can kill multiple targets at once and have high volley counts. Just have to be careful not to toast friendly units. (I lost 25k xp once when I was banking for 3rd wargear slot because I counted squares wrong :mad:) ...edit: Kraken's Breath doesnt work for non-Space Wolf.

    I tested Pyre Talon(plasma) for a bit, but didn't like the playstyle for non big game encounters. Due to my bad luck on Ultramarine Devastator pulls, it's hard to justify using 2 units with possible overheating for me.

    Lastly, for the Bolter weapons, I can only comment on Moloc's Gift. Does an adequate job and has a good overwatch passive. Does not really have 1 shot kill capabilities on the grunts, sometimes needing 3 or 4 shots to kill them if unlucky.
     
  5. BlueTrin

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    Can you add a timeout on the enemy moving sequence, one enemy is stuck and my turn will never start.

    I don't want to lose all my experience
     
  6. r:kidd

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    So the highest level power fist I've seen has 236-286 damage. You're saying there's a power fist with an average of 440? Wow.

    I see where the non-Space Wolf power fist can do an extra 20% damage in the turn after taking enemy damage.

    So in the equation Damage*140%*200%*2(Cleave) I get everything but the extra 200%.

    Passive increase of 15% to melee damage I get. That's the ability perk. 20% Space Wolf Trait, I get that. 15% melee damage, I'm with you there.

    So I get everything but the 200%, and then how to go from 4k to 6k in non crit damage.

    Also, how to get 40k with critical damage. That's an 670% multiple, even at 6k in damage.

    Sorry I'm slow, folks. I appreciate the answer, guaizz.
     
  7. guaizz

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    #1687 guaizz, Aug 4, 2015
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    went to double take on weapon dmg and some additional testing. the 40% dmg buff seems to stack (atleast more than one icon appears on the buff bar)

    also the fist i'm using is 392-478 (435 avg).. so well, slightly under 440~

    the 200% is from First company relic that does 100% more damage to large units

    as for crit dmg, personally my highest with 8AP T3 Plamsa Cannon is 47.5k or so. Thats with only 1 Oath of Angel, 1 Company Relic and 1 BA tactician buff (40% dmg inc).

    Oath of Angels: +25% crit and +50% crit dmg for every BA still alive.
    So basically it confirm crits if your team is all well and assuming enemy isnt crit immune...
    250% additional crit dmg. Tier 3 Plasma packs 350% default... so in total your dmg will be 100%+350%+250% = 700%.

    with a 40% increase from tact buff and 100% increase from First company relic...
    700%*140%*200% = 1960%.

    Which comes to an interesting calculation. 8AP plasma without buff will deal 2423 on that calculation lol... 47.5k/19.6

    compare to a cleaving fist. 435*2*115%(passive melee)*2(2 hits considering 5AP. does Charge on SW assault allow melee? if so 3 hits here) = 2k dmg. if charge allows melee will be 3k. this is considering unbuffed (AP buffs have been factored in due to my only example with 8AP plasma), non-relic situation.
     
  8. guaizz

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    btw, will really really appreciate if someone noticed which stage they obtained an Oath of Angels. Its a T2 item thus easily overlooked. Need tons of them.
     
  9. Pitta

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    Terrific convo about the various strategies on Heroic.

    A testament on how varied and great the game is....so many possibilities!!!
     
  10. HazeTI

    HazeTI Well-Known Member

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    Nope.
     
  11. HazeTI

    HazeTI Well-Known Member

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    The "passive" is a typo that will be fixed in the upcoming update. It is an active item.
     
  12. Dunan

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  13. RodeoMatthew

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  14. Gunslinger87

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    Not when this "new" spreadsheet is obviously a copy of the older one with a facelift... Makes me very reluctant to make any further additions to either file...
     
  15. Dunan

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    Not really since my loot probability data was copied to the 2nd sheet along with another person's. Sort of defeats the idea of a collaborative workspace when you duplicate and split the user base like that.
     
  16. inuse78

    inuse78 Well-Known Member

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    Does it matter? I did a lot of work on the most recent link I could find and that table is almost complete now.
     
  17. RodeoMatthew

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    I can understand why you're annoyed, but theres not really anything that can be done, short of sabotaging each other. (Which I do not condone in any way).
     
  18. Gunslinger87

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    #1698 Gunslinger87, Aug 4, 2015
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    It is a matter of principle. (if you are going to copy something like the contents, fine, keep the data, but don't reword somebody's statements and make them your own... my words, my intellectual property) Anyways I'll be posting a link in the other one towards the "new" one so we at least all meet at one place.

    I have absolutely no problem moving to a different link in my favourites... There is just a right and a wrong way to do something like this.... anyways I'll get over it. No worries.

    So I guess this is the new spreadsheet then:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/115vT2_ShFUwynHvDl8BnaL3OU6tp_IKFp7SRkH324M8/edit#gid=0

    Old one: (redirected to the one above and left to die)
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jgBk8AWrrh52v9G0isQJiD0_EfllEXCtpEaYyFtHc3w/edit#gid=0

    PS I just really do hope this doesn't turn out to be some testosterone-induced chest pounding or a conflict between the two "owners" of the spreadsheets. Nothing is easier than copying any doc. and making THAT one the most recent doc. to be found when we are working from a forum... So does that mean tomorrow the next person can copy the one above? :)

    Anyways, happy looting.
     
  19. Grand Master Azrael

    Grand Master Azrael Well-Known Member

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    I got the Firescream my first time through. It is incredible, all I need now is something better than a Tier 3 BA to use it!
     
  20. Dunan

    Dunan Well-Known Member

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    #1700 Dunan, Aug 4, 2015
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    It's sort of rude to make a copy of it and not point to people that it's a new sheet with a reason and let others continue to work on both sheets separately, effectively doubling the work. Just simple curtsey was all that was needed because it's in the community's best interest from the start and from this point forward to work together.

    Edit: Just furthering Gunslinger I also agree that the best course of action is to stick to one sheet. It's not my intention to have a competition or race of any sorts but it did need to be noted.
     

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