Universal Vainglory - (by Super Evil Megacorp)

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  1. brybry

    brybry Well-Known Member

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    You should be required to lock in your role as lane jungle or roam and be forced to play your role or face consequences. I'm tired of supporters playing as junglers and not Laying mines or using flares. There needs to be a way to check that because I'm getting tired of getting screwed by solo players who can't carry. I'm honestly done playing this game. It's not getting better.
     
  2. Adams Immersive

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    #582 Adams Immersive, Aug 24, 2015
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    I'd say the problem isn't any one particular lack of skill, but in matching people of different skills. I'd say that's gotten better over the past year—a little—but remains very frustrating. People build up their skills and understanding over time, some quicker than others, but it's less fun to have people worse than you in the game.

    Or better than you: whatever your skill level, there are people who think YOU are just as useless as those failed Support players. That's no fun either, to be the weak link.

    (The level I'm at, Decent-ish Bronze, I rarely see a Support role at all, and when someone tries it, it's often a disaster: I see so many Ironguard users who REFUSE to first-hit and INSIST on last-hitting. And get mad when you last-hit, or when you're at low health and decline to follow them into the enemy jungle. Now, I know I am not good as Support so I play Jungle—better two Jungles that failed Support. That will limit the tier I can rise to—just like my refusal to stutter-step limits me. But that's OK: no matter what I master or don't, there are thousands of people worse than me and thousands better. Just match me with 5 people of similar skills, please!)

    You WILL lose exactly 50% of the time no matter what you do. That's how the matchmaker works. However, when I lose, I wish it were because I'm in over my head in a game with 5 just-slightly-better players, rather than losing because I'm matched with 2 really weak players against superior opponents.

    I'm not sure there's any answer other than a much bigger player base, which does seem to be slowly happening. I wonder, though, if the 6 people chosen for a match are being mixed evenly between the two teams. It's very hard to say, because someone could play like a complete fool in one way, while totally outclassing you and doing fantastically in another. I've seen players feed the enemy, jungle with a lane hero, steal last-hits, ignore almost-dead enemies, and just generally be awful... and then later in the game when they're equipped, they take the team to victory by mowing down turrents and acing the enemy repeatedly. That doesn't mean they were much fun to play with, but it also doesn't mean the matchmaker should file them in a lower tier.
     
  3. lainsxp

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    1001 - Whoot Whoot
    damn forgot the picture
     
  4. lainsxp

    lainsxp Well-Known Member

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    ^^ ^^
     

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  5. Dom1nat0R

    Dom1nat0R Well-Known Member

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    crashing the moment it gets to main menu anyone else experiencing this?
     
  6. dingdongfootball

    dingdongfootball Well-Known Member

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    Yep, as soon as the app opens it just instantly crashes. Super annoying.
     
  7. lainsxp

    lainsxp Well-Known Member

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    well today comes the update .. so it will be fixed !
     
  8. Adams Immersive

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    The same version (late August) did that every time when I first installed it (iOS7 iPad Air). I think even deleting did not help, but rebooting the iPad fixed it completely... I should have tried that first.

    It's still fine for me now (no new version quite yet).
     
  9. Barak

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    Awesome new update. Loving the changes to the support role (I play a ton of Ardan), the objectives and the Joule Tier 3 skin!
     
  10. qdiddy

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    Yo guys I need some help. What do you think the best way to build Skye is? I've built her raw damage, I've built her raw crystal, I've built her alternating current and she still hits like a spit ball. Is she even a heavy damage dealer in the first place, cuz I'm not seeing it.
     
  11. andysmash

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    I wish this game (or maybe just the community?) was more casual. I like it a lot, but I'm tired of my teammates flashing angry emotes at me.
     
  12. qdiddy

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    That's easy, play support and then it automatically becomes the laners fault. No more angry emotes
     
  13. Adams Immersive

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    I don't know... I get ping-spammed when I play support or jungle, but not so much as lane. Maybe because laning is simpler, and I'm less likely to screw up? Or they're more likely to UNDERSTAND laning and not expect things from me that make no sense.

    The human race is indeed a huge problem with this game (as with so many things) but I think the solution is twofold:

    1. Better matchmaking--which at this point might only come in time with a really big playerbase, or might never happen. Matching with people much better or worse than you is just not much fun.

    2. Meanwhile, use that ping mute! And you can now thumbs-down someone specifically for "Rude Pings." That's two reasons people will hopefully learn to control their inner pain. I think it's working: I see far fewer people carpet-bombing pings than I used to.
     
  14. lainsxp

    lainsxp Well-Known Member

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    updatehype ! 1.9 today !!!!
     
  15. qdiddy

    qdiddy Well-Known Member

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    Wait it's out today?!?
     
  16. lainsxp

    lainsxp Well-Known Member

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    in some hours .. yeah ;)
     
  17. lainsxp

    lainsxp Well-Known Member

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    its now .. server downtime 3-4 hours
     
  18. qdiddy

    qdiddy Well-Known Member

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    Woot woot! Time to drop 20 dollars on some ice
     
  19. qdiddy

    qdiddy Well-Known Member

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    I caved. I bought phinn, and baewitched Celeste.
     
  20. jakubklena

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    Hey, is anybody making a TouchArcade Guild?
     

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