OMG will you all get you heads out of your asses and understand that the ipad is going to not fail, but going to be great. You are the people who said the ipod and the iphone was going to fail, but you were wrong! Please learn from past mistakes!
Yep, it's true. You and I and Big Albie and the rest who are stating that while it won't fail and will find some success but might not be as successful as proponents think are part of that very group who so long ago stated that iPod and iPhone/touch would fail. We've obviously been found out and unmasked.
I still think the original iPod was a fail. Luckily it was a popular enough fail to convince Apple to make something decent, which I then bought
What has yet to be revealed is whether or not the iBook store is going to suffer the same delay as Amazon does with eBooks, which is what will truly kill the Kindle if it doesn't. Right now Amazon is waging these massive battles with publishers to maintain their $9.99 eBook pricing. This has caused publishers to essentially be like, "Well screw you guys, we'll release the hardcover first then and push the eBook release back 3 months if you're not going to let us make any money on eBooks." They've even gone as far as to sell certain eBooks at a loss when publishers refuse to meet the $9.99 price point. If Apple offers an open platform for publishers to bring their works to, at a price they set, it will really take off if the compromise of paying a few bucks more for the eBook means not waiting 3 months to read it. I've been pretty active in various Kindle communities online, and it's pretty unanimous (aside from the token price whiners which seem to exist everywhere) that people would gladly pay more for an earlier release. I doubt you'd be able to find many Stephen King fans who own a $250 or $500 Kindle who wouldn't be willing to flip out a couple bucks more to read Under the Dome on their device the day it came out. As far as the whole eInk being easier on your eyes thing, it's kind of a silly argument, especially when you consider most people these days spend their entire workday staring at an LCD then come home and spend some time browsing the internet looking at a similar display. The iPad will likely really take off in the market segment where Kindles are popular, because people with Kindles are buying them as a luxury convenience item-- Not to save money. (If people wanted to save money on books, they'd go to the library.) If someone were in the market for an eBook reader and could get one with a small screen for $259, one with a larger screen for $489, or a tablet with the best mobile browser and the entire power of the App Store behind it for $10 more... Which do you think they'd choose? ...This isn't even getting in to the amazing things the iPad can do for magazines, newspapers, and everything else-- As quite honestly, reading newspapers and magazines on the Kindle is a horrible user experience.
Well, there's a difference I guess between "a fail" and "a failure". Personally I didn't own an iPod until the nano came out, but then again I didn't rock Walkman's or anything during the tape or CD days either.
I was never into Kindle anyway, so of the two I'd choose the iPad. The eInk thing looks nice when you see it, but it's not impossible to create a similar look just by using the right colours and altering the brightness settings on an LCD screen.
Ehh... HTML 5. Although you'd have to rewrite them in Canvas. I'm finding your arguments uncharacteristically narrow-minded and somewhat ignorant Spiffy. That is all.
Personally, I could care less either way if Apple succeeds with this. If the iPad does well, all the power to them. What I have to question is the usefulness in the scheme of things. Yeah, I saw Jobs graphic about how the iPad is the missing link between laptops and ereaders. But, if my product is lacking a few things, I'd position it that way too. People just need to be realistic about this because the device isn't perfect. Do I want one? Sure, but am I running out in my underwear to wait all night for one? That would be no. Believe me, if another company were to release a product that was missing as much as the iPad, people would not be giving them a pass. While the iPhone and Touch are successes and I love using them, they aren't perfect. But people tend to brush them aside for better or for worse. A good example is battery life, and it remains to be seen how the iPad performs on a daily basis in a work environment for example. I based that simply on my use of an iPhone and Touch which frankly don't last a full day on a single charge. My bottom line is before we all jump on the bandwagon or off it in some cases, let's see what actually shows up at the store. And if you're disciplined, you may even want to wait until the next generation of the product where it finally lives up to this godforsaken hype.
whoa Albie! Havent seen u in a while. Anyway i 100% agrre with your post, you bring up some valid points
At $500 I just don't see it being a reasonable purchase when I already own a PC and Ipod Touch. Maybe in a couple of years with some improved features and a reduced price, but now it just seems a little pricey for an oversized Ipod Touch.
Ahem. http://forums.toucharcade.com/group.php?groupid=295 I think I see quite a few possible members in this thread...
I hope that wasn't a reference to me. I thought my post was quite respectful and I can assure you I won't be buying an iPad till at least 2011.
I hold on to that part in bold then. It must mean that you find my previous arguments on other topics the exact opposite. Seriously though...what's with all the spiffy hate here? I ain't the only one taking this position, and I'm not even taking the position that this thing will out and out fail like others have. I just don't think it's "revolutionary" and don't think the possible consumer base is as large as some think. I think it'll be niche. Might be a successful niche, but niche nonetheless, and not large enough to be as major an Apple product as iPod, iPhone/touch or Macs.
lol That's a good one. I might become a member myself. But, remember, I'm not saying it'll fail, or that I wouldn't find uses for it personally (I said I could a few pages back, iirc), just that it won't be an iPod or iPhone/touch style success. But I'm not looking at it from my own individual viewpoint when I state that; I'm looking at it in terms of possible market for this device. I really just don't see it being as sizable as some here think it will. I don't see it setting the world on fire. I saw that with iPhone as a platform, especially when iPod touch was released (brilliant move by Apple, IMHO, as it gives them something stuff like Palm doesn't, while the phone gives them something Zune doesn't and allows them to reach a much larger market). When the SDK was made available I really felt Apple had something on their hands with iPhone/touch. I just don't see it with iPad in the same manner. There will be a market. I might very well be an owner at some point. But I think it won't be a really mass market audience like with iPod, and iPhone/touch or even Macbooks for that matter.
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