Syncing from another computer

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  1. Capsizing Heart

    Capsizing Heart Well-Known Member

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    #1 Capsizing Heart, Aug 31, 2011
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    Edit: Oh never mind, it seems that since my iPhone's primary library is on a Mac, it won't work on a windows PC. Forcing us to use itunes and making it that if our computer breaks we lose everything.

    I'm sure there's like the 'proper' thread for this, but it's such a quick question and yet for the last two hours I could find NO answer anywhere and I'm just so frustrated, so I'm begging for answer. You can lock and delete this as soon as I get my answer but please, just give me my answer.

    As some of you know. I'm on holiday and my computer is broken. But I wanna be able to add new music and the like to my iPhone but on my Dad's computer. I know if it syncs, everything will be deleted. But apparently you can avoid that if you put it in manual mode. But will putting it in manual mode delete everything on it in the first place? And if this is so, is there no way I can add anything to my iPhone without deleting everything on it first? And if it doesn't delete everything, will my apps be safe as well?
     
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    #2 DodgerBlue016, Aug 31, 2011
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    For apps (music will NOT transfer this way, warning) connect the itouch to said computer, right click on the ipod in itunes (it should be labeled ____'s ipod or something) and hit transfer purchases. This will transfer all your apps to the computer. Not sure how it works transferring them back from said computer though, but it will save on that computer. Then if you sync (this might work) it will recognize your stuff and just put stuff you didn't transfer over on it, or it might reload them. Either way, it WILL save your apps on the computer....that I know. Hope it helps!
     
  3. MystikSun

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    First you need to authorize your computer to sync. Do that in the iTunes Store. Then Transfer Purchases as the post above says.
     
  4. Capsizing Heart

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    So I can save my apps, but not anything else?

    I love how if I bought a laptop and formatted my iPhone there upon its conception, I'd have no problem. Thanks for the tip Apple, but I was already planning on getting a windows laptop instead anyway.
     
  5. MystikSun

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    It does save everything if you authorize your computer to sync stuff from your account. You can have up to 5 different authorized computers/laptops, and you can reset them.
     
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    So if I authorise my computer, it won't delete the music on my iPod, or it will but I can get it back again via purchases?
     
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    Either way. I find it more convenient to authorize, because you can just put in your email + password and you can sync anything on the computer you authorized anytime you want.
     
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    So if I authorise, it doesn't delete my music? How does this work? If it is that simple, why doesn't everyone do it?
     
  9. CaptainAwesome

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    I'm 90% positive your music will be deleted even if you authorize the computer. Unless your entire library of music is composed of iTunes downloads, your music library on the iPod will be wiped. Authorizing only pertains to iTunes Store content.

    Can you not hook up your iPod to the computer, quickly tell it to quit syncing, and then switch to manual mode? Does it have to be done on the original computer?
     
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    I've used the 'authorize' button before (i believe twice, but i SAW it once for certain) and far as I can tell I still have my music library on my ipod. I'm not talking syncs now, just the authorization (you can cancel syncs as you choose). Authorizing just gives that computer authorization for that ipod...
    Edit: i believe music is saved anyways. Not sure on syncs though, but i believe it might end up backing it up (not sure). Either way, on your account, it should all be under 'purchased'...
     
  11. Tommet

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    Did it once after a computer crash. Have 5 idevices.

    iPod touch 1
    Deleted everything.

    iPod touch 2
    Deleted some applications, left music alone - both iTunes and not iTunes acquired stuff

    Nano 6th gen
    Deleted nothing

    iPhone 4
    Deleted all music, and about 1/3 of my apps

    iPad 2
    Deleted all music and about 1/3 of my apps.

    Called Apple beforehand, they told me that I could just reinstall all my 350 plus apps currently on my devices, and all of my music (gee thanks captain obvious). Plus, the tech attitude was that I should be grateful for being able to reload things at all, and they threw another couple of implied insults in there.

    I was seriously unpleased, but then again, that's how the fruit factory roles. I knew that when I signed up.

    Btw - Aside from deleting random apps, they also blew away my folders. That only took me a couple of days to recover from.

    Good luck.
     
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    I've never had much experience with Apple's customer service. What I'm getting from here is that it's crappy. Well, I guess I knew it's horrible the majority of the time for my friends but I never knew they would throw subtle insults your way...
     
  13. Tommet

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    #13 Tommet, Sep 2, 2011
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    I was kinda surprised at that too.

    The app store is the only reason I got into and stayed into iOS. Some of attitudes and "features" of the idevices really drive me up a wall sometimes.

    That said, apple does make very nice hardware, even figuring in the apple tax.

    I've thought about going android, and even picked up a honeycomb tablet this summer, but I've got hundreds (if not thousands) invested in iOS apps at this point.
     
  14. Capsizing Heart

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    Yeah if you try to switch to manual mode on a different library, it all gets wiped. If I authorise it all gets wiped as well, huh? So there is basically no way around this, other than having to start all over a friggin gain. Great, cheers Apple.

    I heard you can sync music on an iPhone using Winamp, but that doesn't help my apps...
     
  15. Tommet

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    Ironically, the tech I talked to was surprised that I cared about the apps. He said, I could just redownload them all. When I explained to him the volume I was talking about he assured me that no one else cared about apps, and I was very atypical.

    Ever so helpful.

    There are lots of programs to slurp everything but apps off the idevices. What they need is the ability to just let us backup a working device when we move to a different computer. The distinct vibe I got from the tech was that we'd only worry about this if we'd pirated apps. He explained that if I bought everything legally, I could just redownload it. I explained to him that I had a rather massive app collection, and contrary to everyone's idea of a free Internet, there are those of us on slower connections who also have to deal with bandwidth caps and overage fees. Not to mention the sheer pita restoring 50 plus gigs of apps is. And thats only on one device! Cloud cuckoo land is a nice place to be evidently. Wish I could get in.

    Incidentally, this is one of the reasons icloud is dead for me before it even begins. Pay apple to buy it. Pay AT&T for charges to upload. Pay apple to store it. Then pay AT&T to download it. Again. Every time i want to use it. Uhhh... Pass.

    Cloud storage is a great idea without bandwidth caps. But I think apple needs to get a clue as to what ISPs are doing...
     
  16. CaptainAwesome

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    Well, the point of authorizing is to make sure things don't get scrambled when you sync purchased content on a new computer. Of course if you authorize the computer and never sync, the iPod you never hook up is still going to have what it's always had on it.

    If it sounded like I was saying that if you authorize you're screwed, it's not what I meant. I meant that CH is already screwed, and that authorizing will do no good, since his intention is to sync.
     
  17. Capsizing Heart

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    Aw crap. Well that's 40 apps I need to redownload, do I have to buy them again?

    And although I proudly buy all my music, I get very little from iTunes itself, since it's really expensive. So I have to rip all my CD's and get all my music again? I feel like I'm being punished for their tech breaking. I swear I grow a little more hatred for Apple with each thing I purchase from them. Although I only normally have about 200 songs on my iPhone, this is still a bloody nuisance. I guess this is a good excuse to restart my LastFM and trim down music I don't listen to. But it's an excuse I didn't want...
     
  18. Tommet

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    No, you won't have to rebuy anything you bought before.

    Btw, the responses I got from apple about this were from phone tech support. They have always been much nicer if I've been able to go into the store. I think that for whatever reasons they have decided the best way to cover the issue of piracy on on iTunes and the app store is to treat everyone like a thief. I don't know if they are hindering actual thieves or not (I suspect not, I'd be willing to bet that there's a way around this if youre jail broken, but don't really know) but they are sure making life more difficult than it needs be for a lot of their users.

    Oh well. As my youngest has learned, you get what you get and you don't throw a fit. I knew most of this stuff before I boarded, although there have certainly been more than a few slap my head moments?

    For the most part, it's been a good experience.
     
  19. Capsizing Heart

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    I just hate customer service, the fact I have to actually go to someone from Apple and pay them HUGE service costs just because they're the only ones who'll fix your stuff is asinine. Being treated like a criminal when I'm innocent is highly offensive, but their customer service has never been great. Brandishing themselves as 'Geniuses', they reek of Apple elitism in the highest degree.

    You can get around this if you download enough third party freeware (although not for apps I don't think). But it's the concept that I have to feel like a criminal, go behind their backs to do something as basic as keep my music on my device. Yeah I may not have bought it from you Apple, but I spent my hard earned cash on that music.
     
  20. Curleh Mustache

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    I'm wondering, if I want to sync a movie to my iPad that's in a different computer, will that wipeout all my songs and apps?
     

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