Just cause there are no new post on TA doesn't mean the game is dead. I never have a problem finding online games and any time I start one, it picked up within five minutes. This is my favorite board game, and definitely my favorite iPad game. My gamecenter name is Woodpusher1, anytime you want a game I'm down.
I really think we could have a successful small double elim tournament if we let players play whatever the hell they want to play and stop with this ridiculous phobia of playing 3/8's of the game's factions. (some of) You guys are playing a totally different game than I am because you refuse to play against GD, PE, TO's, instead of learning any weaknesses they have and how to play around them. its a self-induced prophecy because you refuse to play against the factions because you lose to the factions because you don't know how to play against the factions because you refuse to play against the factions... et cetera. an article for some food for thought... http://www.sirlin.net/articles/playing-to-win-part-1.html no serious tournament i've ever seen in fighting games of any kind makes the restrction that you have to use multiple characters. its silly. anyways... games not dead just TA doesn't get alot of posts I suppose. Strategy games such as this usually get less publicity than the hordes of 1$ games.
I think the worry about some players taking advantage is a legitimate one. The faction stats can't be completely ignored. If a player uses (for instance) TO and GD exclusively, they will tend to have an advantage over those players who play by the spirit of the game and balance their use of the factions.
Spirit of the game!? what does that mean. The game doesn't limit anyone to playing a faction however amount of times they want. if the developers wanted to limit the use of a faction they sure as hell could have. its just limiting the spirit of YOUR game, which is not summoner wars.
I think it's a bit of both to be honest. Statistically, GD and TO are the best factions to use, and I agree, they are my two best factions, but that doesn't mean we should force players to play other factions. Some of my greatest most satisfying victories come from winning against the odds with VG or CG.
Could you please be a bit more offensive? Wow. Someone who wants to play TO all the time because statistically, they are the best, is taking advantage of those who are ready to mix it up and play the weaker factions every once in awhile. Since you asked, that's the spirit of the game. It's called fairness.
Who said anything about forcing players to use other factions? I don't see that anywhere, either written or implied. And clearly, that would be impossible to implement and would be suicidal for Plaidhat.
Yes, but in a tournament setting, we have rules that prevent players from playing certain factions more than once.
No, the players choose to have those rules. No one is "forcing" them on you. If you don't like the rules, you don't play or you make a tournament with your own rules, allowing players to play TO in every match, if that's what you want. Good luck with that.
I was just backing up ReKirts suggestion to run a tournament where every faction is available. Would help get tournament games started. I personally love playing the 'weaker' factions, and will deliberately disadvantage myself to have fun with playing weak factions.
I don't think there's anything in the spirit of the game that requires playing different factions. Some people like one faction and play it all the time, others like playing lots of different factions, both of those approaches are completely compatible with the spirit of the game. Unless there's something in the rules that I missed that says you're supposed to mix it up?
I play the weaker factions far more often than the two strongest (proportionately). I enjoy the challenge.
Head's up, no one used the word "requires" either. However, if you're going to play the same TO or GD every time we meet on the playing field, I will be bored to death of you and we won't meet again. If I can mix it up, so can you (all posed rhetorically). Enough. I have games to play.
I think the only reason this is being discussed is because win/loss ratios are made available in game. I use to play competitive chess, both in person and online, where people clearly cheated using computers. Why do this...ratings. If win loss ratios weren't used I don't think anyone would care if someone used TO every game. I think it speaks more to the game being unbalanced in it current form then people not living up to the spirit of the game. I also think that as long as ratings are used there will always be people who look to exploit those imbalances to get the best rating possible. For me, I learned a long time ago there is more to life then a good win loss ratio so I play all factions evenly to get the most out of the game. Again, all this is just my option, and I think nothing bad of someone playing the same faction over and over, no matter what there reason is.
you may have forgotten when onlyphoenix wanted a tournament without GD and TO or something. I'm pretty sure that's what camzy was mentioning. as far as I recall that the only tournament that was mentioned a while back and that set restrictions on factions being used.
Exactly. Theres no such thing as the spirit of the game. the spirit of the game is just the game itself, with no additional rules. Not my intent to offend but when you add additional rules to the game you are not playing summoner wars, but some hybrid with fake rules that is not the same game. Does anyone here actually play TO/GD the most? I'm definitely a JE/VG player myself and never heard anyone here actually play these two consistently. And i definitely feel JE is very competitive with GD/TO. This whole hypothesis of "everyone will just play two factions in this tournament" is just an untested hypothesis/theory. Its untested, and I highly doubt a tournament will degenerate into just two factions being used.
I didn't place an immediate restriction on GD/TO. I wanted people to bring 5 factions and play them in random order, which would mean that people wouldn't be able to pick their strongest factions straight up and we would have fewer GD/TO/PE mirrors. As for playing against GD/TO/PE, the problem isn't facing those factions as much as it is facing mainers of those factions i.e. people who will only cycle through the top tier decks or even worse, only play one of those factions. It's a matter of getting bored, and that's what I fear in a single deck tourney as well since it's more likely people will being top tier decks. As for organizing simpler tourneys, create a challonge and advertise it rather than just talking about it.
Yeah I mostly agree. I've worked myself into becoming a pretty decent GD, TO, PE, VG, CG player. Only JE, FK and CL I have yet to master/like. I'd gladly play any of the first 5 factions against any other.
JE is a fantastic deck, easy to master and still offering great depth. You should definitely invest more time with it, I think it would also match your rushdown style of play very well. As for CL, everyone knows by now it's my favorite deck I can't recommend it enough! And FK is SW-style masochism...
I love CL so much. But I'm just so bad with them. 1-11 record so far, but I still keep trying because I love their mechanics and meta game.
