I've started to think of this game in the way I think about Blood Bowl, not planning for when stuff goes right but knowing stuff WILL go wrong. Makes the dice a bit less painful.
Yeah I try to look upon this game as "no battle plan survives contact with the enemy". Makes my losses easier to tolerate
PE is a great antidote for all the dice rolling, and it's pretty easy to steamroll most factions with PE if you know all the decks and your own deck well. I like to fall back to PE or GD when I take some bitter losses. I've been trying to make CG my 3rd go-to win deck, but it's it turning out too well. I'm much better with CL or VG than with CG unfortunately.
This thread is fairly advanced and my skills in this game are fairly basic. I final beat the Tundra Orcs by using the Cave Goblins but am having a hard time winning. Can anybody suggest a good beginner deck besides the default ones? And possibly a matchup where I might be able to beat the AI?
Well, firstly beating the AI isn't going to help you prepare for the online arena. As for beginner decks, Guild Dwarves is a great deck that's easy to learn and very powerful. Cave Golins can be hard to use even for veterans, so you might want to stay away from that. Other than that you might want to try Vanguards since their healing strategy is fairly simple to learn.
Why not? You're saying it's easier to beat human opponents if you can't even beat the AI?? I don't think so.
It's fairly well known that the AI in Summoner Wars isn't particularly good and doesn't use most advanced tactics and strategy. Plus the AI does not use Reinforcements so you'll be facing just the base deck over and over while most competitive decks make big use of Reinforcment cards. The AI is good for learning game mechanics and systems, which is something other games like Outwitters and Hero Academy sorely lack. But it's not good for learning strategy and tactics because by consistently beating the AI you'll just gain a small set of the actual skills that you require to be fully competitive. Playing online against good opponents will let you see how more experienced players manage magic and events.
The AI is still a good opponent that lets you learn YOUR factions without some heavy hitting combos from the opponent.
The time and energy you'll invest in beating the AI is better spent in finding a good set of opponents and playing against them. And I've never said you shouldn't play against the AI at all. Use it for learning your units and events but don't keep hammering against it in an effort to become adept at beating the AI. Your sudden interest in the game is... interesting
You said that playing the AI isn't going to help you play online games. But surely if playing the AI helps you learn your units and events, then that will help you play online games. I must be missing something. It's probably not worth explaining. This doesn't make any sense either. What are you talking about? I've followed this game and the forums since it launched. In fact for years before that as a paper boardgame.
Damn, I thought I was going to get away with that! What I meant was that it won't prepare you adequately, but that was just implied since pretty much anything you do in the app like viewing the card gallery or trying the deck builder is going to prepare you for online games to an extent. Implied stuff can get lost sometimes. I guess it was just your random post coming to the defense of all things right and true that threw me off. But don't worry, you got me! My statement was factually wrong when read without the implied content. Thanks for the help ^_^
Just recall a game against Kitkeat where I dealt a fatal blow to the summoner in one turn without spending any magic. This is why I love Goblins Fighter x2, Horde Attack, Rage = 8 rolls of the dice. That's enough to down every summoner in the game with good dice. He had Elien
Somehow winning by good dice is why I am less fond of this game than others (e.g. NHex), still difficult to stop playing it.
The AI sure makes it a lot easier than in, say, Hero Academy, to just try out your units and see how they work. In HA I had to set up a dummy account just so I could play games against myself just to try things out.
You took a bit of a beating on that reply but TY, I'll give those decks a go. I'm not thinking of multiplayer at the moment, for some reason I'm having trouble but I basically understand the game.
