I dunno, I played alot of sagat chun abel and ryu, especially sagat, and as much as I liked them I always came back to cammy. Give cammy a shot maybe? My bet is youll come back to yun eventually but its up to you i guess.
GGs, ivwshane, those are some tough games, you adapted my play style very well, I don't think my sim can touch you in the later games. had to pull out sagat.
I need some serious help with Honda's 8th challenge. I just can't seem to string it all together. I've gotten the first two EX Hands into low jabs but even that is pretty inconsistent. Yet another reason to hate Honda for me lol! But after this one I'll have finished all the challenges!
I'll try Cammy out, then. So we've got a pro cammy (Snooper),a reckless cammy(redtiger), a pesky Cammy (Apprunner, but secretly a pro Cammy), and now a scrubby Cammy (me).
Felix. I fear the day you go and master Cammy. You are a true student of the game and have no doubt you will surpass me with a little training . Hopefully, I can then learn all the little tricks from you
I am honored that you would think so highly of me, Snooper, but I still have a long journey ahead of me to actually compete with the likes of tou guys. Regardless, I really appreciate that you think that I'll become that good.
No worries. Sorry I didn't bring my A game but there was enough lag to throw my game off, besides I figured you wanted to practice and try some new things with your blanka.
Please! Some of us have trouble mastering one character while others like yourself, snooper, tenonez, squall, fffan, are capable of mastering anyone. You guys are masters of the game, the rest of us try to be
Felix let me guide you on your way to Cammy mastery with my 2 step course: "Cammy Master in a Day with Null" First, step one: SP SP SP SP SP SP SP Make sure your thumbs can take the strenuous tapping pressure. You are now at 2k bp level. But you want to go pro. So, I bestow upon you the secret: throw in a forward+SP every now and then, and maybe a throw if they get intimidated by all the SPam. You are now a top-10 leaderboard player. Now, to discuss my fee...
Pretty sure you'd be at least 2500 with Guile (I use guile as a troll whenever I lose to a random guile...my point to them is "Yeah, I can walk backwards and press SP too, aren't we awesome?"). He's probably the easiest char to use and do well with in Volt. Every char has what I like to call the "Dur Maximum," which is the natural BP level someone can get to by simply mindlessly spamming a move or two. Yun's Dur Maximum is low; he requires a ton of finesse and reaction, positioning, strategy, etc. Cammy / Guile and to a certain extent Ken seem to just use "their moves" regardless of what the other player is doing, and it seems to come out OK for them more often than not, especially with latency. I dunno, I put in very little time with guile and I'm able to cream relatively high BP players simply by choking back+boom and using one or two basic setups over and over.
I'm trying to not do that, yet slightly do it, if it makes sense. In friendlies against people who hate Cammy, I'll play Yun/Sakura/Akuma. Otherwise, I am going out on a great quest to become a good Cammy player without the easy route! (which doesn't seem to be possible...) But I did get a nice, good laugh out of this.
Holy smoked cheese (mmm)! I meant Apprunner! I am so sorry, Apprunner! Really am! Anyways, now that I've got my profe updated, I'm fixing up my signature and turning in (finally).
30 sec rundown of cammy: Be patient, seriously. Learn who cant deal with meaty divekicks. Cammys anti air is possibly the best in the game, never, ever, ever let people jump at you (unless its a crossup after knockdown obviously). After a meaty divekick its always tempting to press buttons, but against characters with good reversals it can be better to just block sometimes. Until you really know what youre doing with her, just dont do random spiral arrows, seriously just dont. Against characters that meaty divekicks work well against, punish stuff with standing p-spiral arrow (or low hard punch-low kick-spiral arrow if youre feeling confident) so you can keep the pressure on. Against characters that meaty divekicks dont work well on (bison, gief, rog, GUILE) finish combos with her uppercut, it does slightly more damage and gives you a perfect safe meaty spiral arrow setup (problem fffan? ). Abuse her backdash, its one of the best in the game. Her standing k is really underrated. Also in that guide I wrote (some of the stuff is still relevant but its mostly outdated) I dont really go over how godlike ex divekick is, its godlike.
Best uppercut in the game. AMAZING reach on her jumping kick against crouchers. Amazing dive kick that can cross up and does horrible things to players in the corner. Can FADC combo into ultra...has safe-on-block chip moves...great backdash and a good forward dash...no charge requirements on anything...low screw-up potential with the EXes (as Ryu, when you are crouching and they jump in, you try to uppercut but instead you EX fireball and get rocked because slight control lag registers it as a fluid motion. As Cammy, even if you screw up with an ex, you are "safe"). Not to mention you can ultra straight up off a back knuckle or even that damn flying rolling floor-sweep kicky thingy. Gah. >.<
I agree with most of this. She doesnt 'really' have safe chip moves. Yes, her spin knuckle and hooligan-sweep are safe, but they are really, really slow to start up. Cammys biggest weakness is probably not being able to do safe chip (she can, but its really situational, like meaty divekicks or safe spiral arrows). Dont really know what you mean by safe ex moves, her ex spiral arrow and ex uppercut are extremely unsafe. IMO the only times you should be using meter is to punish fireballs with ex arrow, ex divekick (soooo underrated, such a great tool in so many situations) and uppercut fadcing. Also thanks nullorar for mentioning, iys good to throw in a random hooligan slide every now and then. Its easily countered, but its safe on block, links into ultra, and it can look like you need to block it high because shes in the air. Dont abuse it though. Seriously though, shes one of the best characters in the game, the only characters she has trouble with are guile, sagat and balrog(so im still not 100% sure on this, its a bad match on consoles, but im not sure about volt because of the lack of balrogs. I get rolled by tenonez, but thats just tenonez.) Dee jay, ryu and bison (imo) are all slightly against her, but not really that bad. Plus she walks all over viper, abel, blanka, vega and makoto. Anyway this is all imo, everyone has their own view on matchups. Edit:Also, if youre having trouble with focus happy players (voloster ), especially fei, throw out hooligan grabs. If youre having trouble with any matchups or cammy stuff in general let me know, happy to help.
Her Spiral arrows is uuber safe. It's even safer than uuber-safe, because it's even safe inside of the unsafe-range, due to the fear that she can still DP a reversal if there is ANY lag at all. We're talking a one-frame input window here.
