DROQQA, I request of you advice for my Sakura. I've been playing her, and I'm horrible all over again. I am not sure what to do. I used to be good... but now, I'm not really good at all.
I'm still really learning myself, but I'll be glad to pool knowledge with you. Here is something that I just figured out after playing squall2002: Her focus attack causes almost all jump in attacks to whiff because she gets so low. I'm used to playing sagat, and you NEVER focus attack when someone jumps at you. But with Sakura, I'm starting to learn that it's her best anti-air option. Just off of some quick testing, it causes ryu, bison and akuma's jumping k to whiff. (not akuma's dive kick though) also, with Akuma, sakura gets so low that it causes the second kick of akuma's standing k to whiff! So if he comes in with jumping k, standing k, the only thing that hits is his first standing kick! Which means that if he jumps at you and follows with standing k, if you charge the whole time, you'll rip a LVL3 focus attack on him. Gonna do some more testing.
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Should be noted that this isn't a good technique against characters tht follow up jumping k with 3 frame pokes. I.e. bison and blanka. It's really tough to get the timing right on the release.
Felix, I just uploaded one of my better Sakura matches, it's vs. a decent player named violence program.
I think the best characters: Ken : rmsdrwn Ryu : Nyak - NYC-chinatown Blanka : 40*CF Zangief : Mar-F, Cyrus814 Balrog : Ganzislim, TenOnez Dhalsim : (language-west Asia or Thailand), Ken|Ken Chun-li : AkumaSagatKenRyuKiller Viper : Mar-F, YYOJJO Vega : (Thailand player) M.Bson, Sagat, Akuma : not distinguish and Guile : I am (^_^), slrc91, zeroelf this is just my thoughts.
Just putting it out there, this is how i deal with anti-air focus attacks, especially from fei long. So if you do a jump and then you attack, you have 3 frames of recovery when you hit the ground, so it effectivley takes 6 frames for cammys quickest normal to come out (cr lp). During that time the focus attack couldve hit and crumpled you. However if you do an uppercut (cammys is 5 frames) then you'll be completely invincible as soon as your 3 frames of recovery are finished. They can still crumple you in your 3 recovery frames but the timing is much, much harder than if you do a move without invincibility. It is a bit risky because they might absorb the jumping attack and then backdash, leaving you open for a big punish. If you dont have an uppercut then its probably best to empty jump-throw. Edit: So if cammys jumping k whiffs on a focusing sakura, maybe release it before she hits the ground so that you hit her during the 3 recovery frames... Even better is jumping attack-ultra. Obviously it's risky, but if your ultra is fast enough then it'll catch them if they try to dash backwards, cammys is perfect for this as it's quick and has good horizontal range, so watch out for that
Oh I meant the best character, not the best player. For example (this isn't actaully what I think). A+ Akuma Sagat Guile Ryu A Chun Li Zangief etc.........
Snooper, Anti air focus attack isn't perfect, but jump k, uppercut won't work against Sakura because cammy's uppercut doesn't break armor. (the jump k whiffs)
Just fought some dumb guy named Haroldskingdom. He completely destroyed me when I played Sakura, beat me when I played Yun, obliterated me when I played Bison, and when I played Sagat... I had just landed an EX Tiger Uppercut to Ultra, was about to win, and then... ragequit. Why is it that so many good Guile player's ragequit?!
The nerfs Ryu got weren't really that huge a deal depending on how you play, the reduction of DP invincibility being probably the most significant. No they aren't. I also changed Guile's position. Check it again. Ryu has a lot of equivalent options to Akuma (more, really) without the added disadvantage of taking damage like a paper tiger. Akuma's a better zoner because he HAS to be. If anyone could get in and destroy him, he'd be a lousy character. Ryu's FADC Ultra is pretty much a 50% combo if you've got full life. Akuma can't combo into his Ultra and it's much more punishable now. Plus (and this is just how it seems to me anyway, I haven't looked at the frames) Akuma's moves seem to have more startup than Ryu's. I agree that Akuma's standing kick is better than Ryu's. And Ryu has, arguably the best crossup in the game now. He's not exactly fast but he's hardly slow. 1.Can't take as much damage 2.No combo-able/FADC-able Ultra/Super 3.Worse Ultra/Super than Ryu in terms of punishability and options for landing it Ryu has more options to do big damage than Akuma does which is the main reason he's better in my eyes, and really, tiers are all about what options a character has. Plus Akuma's Super/Ultra is more punishable now. I'm not sure but isn't Ryu's low Forward kick faster than Akuma's? Akuma's standing kick is pretty unsafe on block depending on the opponent. Sagat isn't really MEANT to be played up close where Ryu is good at pretty much any distance in the game. Look at almost any of Sagat's moves and you'll see a move made to be used against an opponent that's at least 1/2 screen away. Guile can do pretty good damage on the offensive. He still can do a lot without having to resort to just standing in the corner and spamming booms. I don't know if anyone actually sat down and did any changes for Guile, but maybe I will (I'm in Ga this week and will probably have A LOT of free time lol!) But I think the Flash Kick damage got nerfed a bit. It's actually a pretty crappy move in this game compared to it's previous incarnations. As a Bison player myself, I think he needed those nerfs. Really, Bison's character has, as far as SF4 is concerned has always been pretty low risk/high reward. He's still solid, but he doesn't do ridiculous damage for simply mashing Kick while crouching. As for Gief, I'll be the first to admit I hate being on the receiving end of an SPD, but it's a move that requires risk and execution (at least without SP Assist anyway) but I think they should have nerfed his Ultra damage instead if they didn't already (doesn't seem like they did...) I'll try not to make huge sprawling posts like this in the future though. :-X
Hey Nashberry I'd love to play soon, but I'm out in some backwoods area with no network. If I can get to some wifi this week, I'll hit you up!
yes, you are one of the best Ryu players, you know nyak?you've played with him yet? I want to know who is the winner of u vs Nyak,
