Statically, it looks good. This list applies well to all all types of players. I think makoto should be up higher, but i see why shes on the bottom due to her high risk mind game. Bottom line its each characters will fix with the players personality too. Like some people will play the run away catch up game. Some will stay defensive and agressive. I learned to play honda as if i can move in and out of a safe distance so that he can counter in time. It would be interesting to list all moves and strategies out. Anyway if anyone wants some games im up for that. GC: .RandomMaster. I main honda and primarily play random
WHAT? Ryu's st.HK is the sh!t and key to the Zangief matchup. His DP trades most of the time with Zangief's Body Press (or whatever it's called) and his cr.HP doesn't reach that far, nor his cl.HP.
I'm surprised ryu is that high, he always seemed like an average character (as evident by his variance ranking). I also thought zangief would be higher but so few people actually know how to play him. I've been playing the CPU lately and bison is not only hard but I really haven't met a player who plays as well as the CPU does in terms of strategy and baiting. Then again the CPU plays a pretty lame bison with a touch of apprunner, that is a certain randomness.
The thing with Ryu is that he's pretty good with no horrible matchups. He has a solid dp, FADC, Ultra, solid fireball and a good cr.MK. The problem with CPU bison is that it's boss bison. With some characters it can even be quite hard to punish his ultra due to how fast he recovers. And, my god is the CPU random with strategy. The Akuma is quite consistent but the other characters random mash DP on a safe jump and other times just stands there.
Bison did cl.HP xx EX Psycho Crusher near the corner on me (I blocked it), and the corner made it recover earlier and right after that he grabbed me. I didn't expect that at all.
Is the boss bison different than regular bison? I know boss akuma is different but I didn't know bison was. Also on bisons torpeado move (horizontal flying) can it be blocked on the first frame or two and then punished or does it have to be almost passed through you until you can punish? When using blanka I can punish it but when using sim it seems like I can't and I was wondering if I need to punish sooner, as in block for a shorter amount of time (no auto block).
No no, that video is from psxsquall, not mine. That combo can only be done with Boss Bison since he gets more frame advantage on his cr.MP. And if you mean doing that in a real game as in an online match, I don't think so. Unless the other player also had Bison's move set replaced with Boss Bison's, it would cause desync.
Pretty much Boss bison and Shina Akuma have faster moves that recover faster too. Shina Akuma's ultra goes further and moves faster and there's the obvious double air fireball. Boss Bison has noticeably a lot more hit stun on his normals
You need a CH to make the first hit combo into the third one. You can record Ryu doing st.HK and using Ultra from a distance to hit him in his startup frames to get a CH while whiffing the second hit. It deals more damage than Ultra on CH without whiffing its second hit. I also played a bit with his Ultra on trade and it sure has a lot of hitstun. Too bad there's no Rose here to get two hits instead of just one. Also, after a FA2/3, he can do cr.LK, dash forward as a reset. It will cross up some characters and leave Fei at -1. It's quite difficult to find interesting stuff with such a simple character
What I found from playing arcade mode, is that if Sagat does his Ultra against a crouching vega, there's a gap for Vega to do a reversal after the first tiger knee part of the ultra
If you perform a back dash in that gap, Vega either avoids Sagat's first uppercut or gets hit by it but makes the second uppercut whiff.
In my continued effort to learn how to play sim off/off I've been playing against the CPU on grueling and so far the CPU plays most characters really well. Except for one, blanka. Anyone else think that the CPU blanka sucks?
Blanka does random rainbow balls and doesn't do very much. I guess Blanka is also one of the few characters that doesn't have a ridiculous high damage combo the CPU can do
