What do you mean? I was talking about the stages and the new characters apart from Decapre. All that is from SFxT. What I meant is that Capcom show that they care a lot about this update with all the location tests and all that, but the new things they showed us till Decapre's announcement were just things from SFxT (except Team Battle, Online Training, Edition Select, Red Focus and Delayed Wakeup). They've been hyping the 5th character since USFIV announcement so obviously everyone thought that it would be at last something enterely new instead of something borrowed from SFxT. Each delivered hint only made the list of possible characters smaller and worse, but there were still better options than just another Cammy, even between the rest of the dolls, but in the end Vega's and Cammy's baby won. They could have at least changed her fighting stance, her normals, her throws and her haircut so she isn't just Cammy with some new tools, but no, they went the lazy way again and just grabbed Cammy and changed some things. Heck man, even SSBB modders made an actually good mod for Sonic as Shadow that changed EVERYTHING even while Shadow is just a black Sonic. So yeah, with all the people working at Capcom just to do that, I call their work lazy. Did you watch the stream? When the trailer started playing everyone was screaming like crazy, and then when it finished they all were quiet with nothing else than a poker face. They only started screaming again when Ryan chose SFIV Sagat to face Combofiend's Decapre. People are way more happy with Edition Select than an "all new" character.
Rolento and Poison are from Final Fight; Elena and Hugo debuted in 3s. Mad Gear hideout was from Final Fight. You don't explain why you don't like Decapre apart from being a cammy clone. I mean it's part of the storyline given her training for her normals to be the same as Cammy's. And a Doll being the 5th character was always the obvious choice, given the OVA. In fact, Leonel was arguing that he didn't like Decapre because she was too different to Cammy. You argument is essentially complaining that Ken and Ryu have similar normals. I mean, we knew that the character was part of the universe, so it couldn't have been a new character or really have a unique design. Did you listen to the stream? The audio was terrible and you couldn't hear the audience over the audio, because well, they aren't recording the audience during an announcement. PR Rog and Philipino Champ pretending to walk out was obviously a joke. I don't see a reason to complain about a character with a completely new special moveset and unique elements that fits within the storyline. The only avenue of complaint I see is how balanced her moveset is, even though she is 85% completed.
No man, if she makes it to a new volt we couldn't do ANY FU**ING THING. 3 frames startup would translate to 1 frame startup (AE at 60 FPS and Volt at 20 FPS). Ken couldn't even use cr.MK xx Hadouken as a blockstring. It would need to be nerfed to 2 frame startup instead, otherwise it would be too much. She already can combo into it from a big number of moves. But anyway, she's a charge character, so maybe she needs to also charge her Ultras.
Ok, I don't know if your answer is a joke or something like that, but you and everyone here knows what I'm talking about. All those things are straight from SFxT. They just deleted the Tekken characters from the stages and added/changed some things in the characters movesets (Supers, U2s, win animations, etc). Ono said that he didn't want SFxT to be AE + Tekken characters not only in terms of gameplay but also in terms of characters, that's why we got Poison, Hugo, Rolento and, as DLC, Elena, instead of characters from AE like Makoto or El Fuerte, and now they're using those same characters that would make both games feel different for USFIV. Why not Eagle, Ingrid, Q and Alex? So? I can't complain about her design or about why Capcom chose her instead of Santamu or any other doll, apart from the rest of the characters from UDON? She's just Cammy with a freaking mask and claws. They chose her because they wouldn't need to work just from scratch, and just take a look at all the hate they're getting. Ken and Ryu aren't at least that kind of clones. I don't care if she's canon or whatever, it's still a lazy design. Kula and K are also clones in KoF yet they aren't the same at all, while Decapre even shares the same model as Cammy, just with some details here and there. Yup, when the Capcom representative was speaking you could hear and see people standing up and screaming when he was talking about the suprise and about the 5th character being unveiled at last and that everyone would get a shirt featuring that character. Once the video finished, just silence. They didn't say a thing until Ryan used SFIV Sagat. You couldn't hear anyone only while the video was playing. She's part of the SFIV storyline just like how any other character from the franchise could be part of the SFIV storyline much like how Makoto and most of the characters that were introduced in one of SFIV updates were there even without any mention in either SFIV OVA or characters' endings. Only the twins appeared in one of the endings.
Just pointing out that the characters are favourites, which is why they were in SFxT and were allowed to return in USF4. Everyone loves Rolento. Eagle did appear in CvS2. None of those characters are very popular. I'm pretty sure I'm one of the very few people that like Ingrid Oh, given the buildup to the reveal, the reaction was very... underwhelming. Jchen's enthusiasm was terrible. But I like having one of the dolls to play. Given that the Juri OVA showed the dolls were still alive, I for am have since been intrigued to see what would happen with that thread. The reaction to Vanilla Sagat was due it to being Vanilla sagat, which Combofiend most likely reminded Ryan Hart that he could pick. I feel that Decapre is fine for the game, storyline-wise, but I also feel that people are just complaining because they didn't what they wanted.
Combofiend spent countless (unknown) hours playing the character. Its also a matchup ryan hart does not know. You dont know how to aproach it, whats safe and what can be punished. How to manage all the setups combofiend came up with. When volt was first released, Try to remember the first time you faced akuma on arcade mode. No one knew he was even in the game cause he was not in the select screen. Im pretty sure 99% of the people lost that first time.
Most people dont know Decapre is not cammy, that she is a clone. Some people om eventhubs think she is evil cammy but thats not the case. In Ryu's case, Evil Ryu is actually Ryu and no one complains about him. Same with akuma-oni. Decapre is not Cammy. If it were evil cammy it wouldve been Killer Bee. Now we know why they had a naming vote for her. They probably were deciding wether to add Killer Bee or Decapre.
I realized it wasnt a nickname when they started complaining about her hairstyle. Surely shows that they dont know anything about the dolls or decapre.
That's why I feel a lot of the hate is misplaced. People don't understand how the dolls fit into the storyline. I was stoked when I found out the dolls were still alive. Also: Doable in bolt too due to LFC, but I'm skeptical about how well it works in AE
Yeah, I do the same, but that's kind of where it went wrong. Last friday I was having a bit of pain, so I exercised the hand, but while distracted I overdid (shouldn't have done anything in the first place). Stupid me.
Is it only me or all i find now are chinese/japanese people in ranked? (They have chinese texts on their names and comments) Freaking bad lag all the time.
It seems like Big Band is finally almost done. Next non-beta SG update should already have him in the roster. I don't know if anyone here has the game though.
New tech time! So off the top of my head there are a few characters which have a direction+p command move. e.g. Ryu, Guile, Akuma, Blanka, Yun, Cody, DeeJay, Makoto. The problem with these moves is that at close range the command overlaps with that of throw. However, I have found a way to execute these moves at point blank without throwing. If you press uf/ub+p you will get the command move. Uses for this include doing point blank overhead or a tick throw (makoto). (You need to press the direction and P at the same time. You cannot cancel the starting frames of the jump, unlike AE). What is also interesting is that charging db, then doing uf+p with a charge character will not execute the sonic boom motion. So with Blanka, you can do cr.LK, s.HP xx Super. Likewise, doing db, df+p will not do a sonic boom either, so Guile can do cr.LP, cr.HP xx Super. Though, if you do db, uf+p with a character that has a special that uses d, u+p motion (balrog), that has priority over the command normal. TL;DR: do UF/UB+P for command normals to avoid doing the throw.
