na that thing is crap. its good as a combo ender if you do crouching hard punch but otherwise it just gets beaten out by almost every jumping attack. its funny, if it trades, the opponent goes flying back but takes no damage. EX is good as an anti air though, but you have to be able (lol) to do the shoryuken motion very quickly and have meter, standing punch tends to get the job done anyway.
NSB is starting for anyone who cares. http://ja.twitch.tv/nsb1 http://ja.twitch.tv/nsb2 NSB2 is the B block and most English speakers are there chatting. Anyway, as you were, everyone...
MAAO is one of my favourite players I main T Hawk, and like you, I can say I'm suprised as anyone at the mirror match there. GO MAAO
So with all sagats kara moves i thought id make a few changes to the tier list. Comment if you think any of the matchups are wrong. Thanks
I finally hit 2k BP tonight. Still a long way to go to catch the rest of you though. I also decided to start pushing a little harder at the Challenges. I really don't have the patience for them, but I did kick out Ken and Sagat tonight.
I for one...dont know what is a kara. Do you mind telling me? I tried to do it but after the forward K and i input immediately...it seems the move comes out after the 1st animation end rather than during the animation of forward + K. Apart from that, cancelling from forward + K to other moves does not work too. What am I doing wrong?
If you're seeing the roundhouse, you aren't Kara-cancelling. You press Forward+K, then almost instantly press Forward+SP, Back+SP, etc. You'll literally fly across the screen with a Tiger Knee or greatly increase the TU range. EDIT: Sigh, the technical reasons for this are simple. Kara=Empty in Japanese. So think of it as in Sagat's Roundhouse is being performed "empty", or not coming out completely. Sagat's range increases because he's stepping forward to do the roundhouse kick, so when you then immediately mash Tiger uppercut/Knee, it performs the move where Sagat's Foot was when you perform F+K, so you sort of "teleport" further ahead allowing you to hit someone that previously out of range. In the console versions you can Kara throws (Ken is famous for this) as well as moves such as Sagat can in Volt.
i think it's very difficult if without SP assist. even I tried forward + K then instantly perform then remaining part of tiger knee (down-down forward)...it's still not coming out
The timing window is tight, it has to be nearly instantaneous after you press Forward+K. Again, those who deride the SP button are going to have this issue. This is a prime example of why it exists. The touch screen is not the greatest control method for a FG, so it is what it is. If you don't use the SP button, what you'd have to do (and this will work namely for only Tiger Uppercut) When you press Forward And K, immediately slide down, down-forward all in the same motion and press SP. It's not ideal and will rarely work. You'd be better off avoid trying to Kara with Sagat in this case because it will more than likely lead you to whiffing Shoryu's and Knee's and getting punished.
im not player of Sagat. I just try it out of curiousity. I'm just eager to learn. That's all. @Snooper, the palm striker after focus attack lv3 backdash is not hitting the target
You need to be in the corner and its character specific. I wrote about it maybe 10 pages back. But it lest you get the most damage without meter. Works on abel, honda, cody, makoto, akuma and a few others, cant remember.
Sagat is great, but he's not all-powerful. Most of the kara stuff is subject to no-lag requirements and whiffs a great deal leaving you wide open. Fun to use against scrubs, but I wouldn't break it out against top-tier opponents unless I was desperate. That said, I'm happy to be able to tigerknee spam dhalsim's all day.
If you want the palm to hit, don't back dash ,wait till they fall to their knees then Palm them. Heheheh, I love playing with Genei Jin. So far longest combo is only 30. Most damage I got was 22 hits, 414 damage. So fun. Impossible to do online, though. EDIT: Scratch that. just did 28 hits, 607 damage. Fun stuff 23 hits, 645 damage... Wow, real potential. Glass cannon.
Hes still the best character in the game. Kara tiger knee goes half screen and kara tiger shot is just sick. But even before all this kara stuff i thought he was the best character. High damage, best fireball, easy combos, good pokes and amazing anti air. No other character is as good as sagat. No way
