iPad STREET FIGHTER IV Volt - [Capcom]

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  1. mooken

    mooken Well-Known Member

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    Very nicely done!
     
  2. CaptYadierPR

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    You have to teach me how you set up the youtube player on the forum.
     
  3. SaXxO*

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    #33063 SaXxO*, Jan 26, 2013
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    @ THEXION

    H.ell yeah! Hehhe all TA ACCENT players are 100% legit. Sincerely bro
     
  4. mooken

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    #33064 mooken, Jan 26, 2013
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    '['YOUTUBE']videoID['/YOUTUBE']'

    minus all the single quotes.
    videoID is the ?v=ABCD1234 section, just put "ABCD1234" from your youtube link.
    I think you can also do
    '['HDYOUTUBE']videoID['/HDYOUTUBE']'
     
  5. CaptYadierPR

    CaptYadierPR Well-Known Member

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    Many thanks.
     
  6. TheXion

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    Hmmmmm let me give this technology a go.....

     
  7. TheXion

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    Hey! It worked!!
    Now to hack the CIA....XD
     
  8. User58394

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    @Harley

    So it's on potential then?

    And nice vid too.

    How in the world do you do flash kick to ultra?

    I never get it down.
     
  9. mooken

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    Correct.
    Character Match-Ups (and by extension, Tier Lists) are based purely on each character's set of tools.

    Underlying assumption between Match-Up tables and Tier Lists are that the players are of equal skill, in terms of technical execution, yomi, and knowledge of the game. Strictly about that character's toolbag, i.e. walk speed, anti-airs, high-priority moves, safeness, range, poking ability, ability to do damage.

    If Infiltration played every character equally well, and his Akuma played against his Zangief for 10 matches, how many would his Akuma win vs his Zangief?

    From that point on, Tier Lists are basically the sum of each character's win-loss ability against every other character. Basically if your opponent random-picked his character, which character would you use to ensure your highest win percentage?

    Of course in practice, some characters get used more often than others -- i.e. the shotos. If you wanted to calculate which character is best against the latest meta, you could use the match-up tables x character usage from the past month -- in a sense, the best counterpick against the current most statistically-used characters.
     
  10. CaptYadierPR

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    Best explanation ever on what a tier list really is
     
  11. User58394

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    @Mooken

    Doesn't that mean C.Viper is at the top then?

    Like, the top of the top?

    She has like, everything.

    Plus, even without her juper jump cancel she was crazy good.

    Now with super jump cancel, she's top of the top of the top?
     
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    #33072 CaptYadierPR, Jan 26, 2013
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    No, viper still has bad matchups like E.Honda. Sagat has no bad matchups
    When you add up all the numbers sagat would be top of the top.
    Im making my own tier list and on my list sakura is bottom when i add all the matchup numbers. As of now its still not finished
     
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    Harlequin is Volts Dimenion
     
  14. mooken

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    #33074 mooken, Jan 26, 2013
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    I don't mind the E.Honda match-up. I consider that 5-5 (assuming lag isn't a factor). Headbutts are blockable and punishable with cr.MK > TK. There's a 2-3 frame window to punish a blocked sumo squat as well. My three main issues with Honda:
    1) on jump-ins, it's a 50-50 guess if Honda will use j.lp or j.hk. j.lp will beat out pretty much anything viper has, so I'll take the trade with st.K. honda's j.hk does more damage than viper's st.K, so I would need to heavyTK that.
    2) on wake-up, Honda can mix up sumo squat, oicho throw, or headbutt. viper's backdash can beat out squat + throw, but not headbutt. 33% mix-up. :(
    3) honda does so much damage.


    As for Viper being top of the food chain -- that's why a lot of folks here have Viper as A/S-tier. Viper has issues with Bison/Dictator, Blanka, and Sagat.

    I think I can make the Sagat match-up 50-50, but 1) Sagat Damage via Ultra and 2) Sagat Knee 3) Sagat Tiger Uppercut > FADC > Grab/Uppercut/knee mixups.

    Dictator has so much priority in the air, along with a better jump arc than viper. His standing kick also comes out so quick with such a huge hitbox, it beats viper's normals. Two standing kicks = 1/3 of viper's health, likewise EX headstomps.

    Blanka's j.lk(mk?) has ridiculous priority, and jump arc is too quick to punish on reaction. EX balls beat out burn kick as well, and goes over seismo. A lot of his ball moves are tough to punish too.

    Also, her focus attack is terrible, as is her safe wake-up options. Someone like honda with the EX headbutt gets out of trouble reasonably free. Viper's EX burn isn't bad, but it's a lot more punishable.

    edit: also, Akuma's dive kick beats the crap out of Viper's h.TK. Some akuma was eating me free with divekick, teleport back, dive kick, repeat. Dive angle tricky and perfectly snuffs the h.TK. Doesn't matter if Viper has 8 other offensive tools. If just one of Akuma's options allows him to get in non-stop and viper has no response, Akuma gets that match-up in the bag. eg. Sagat/Bison Standing Kick vs Zangief.
     
  15. mooken

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    The Yellowness.
     
  16. CaptYadierPR

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    Thats what i was trying to say, but only in a few sentences with no specifics, but your right.
     
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    GGs the other day (I think). I remember seeing the name but wasn't sure if it was you since I thought your GC was Photonics. I forget who I was using, but was that your Ryu/Yun?
     
  18. TheXion

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    Can't we just have 1 tier list we all agree on??

    Top: Sagat
    Mid: Everyone but...
    Bottom: Cody
     
  19. CaptYadierPR

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    #33079 CaptYadierPR, Jan 26, 2013
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    Bottom is definetly sakura, she has more bad matchups then cody does.
    Can any sakura player post their opinion on the matchups? All 21 matchups?

    I placed sakura 3.5-ryu 4.5-honda 3-blanka 3.5-guile 4.5-balrog 3-sagat 4-yun 4-ken 5.5-chunli 4-zanguief 4-dhalsim 4-vega 3.5-bison 4-feilong 4-cammy 3.5-deejay 4-viper 4.5-abel 4.5-cody 3.5-akuma 4-makoto

    Opinions?
     
  20. Apprunner

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    I think Cammy has an advantage over Sagat. Kinda weird thing to say but her uppercut beats a lot of Sagats moves and he is so slow that he can be thrown quite a bit.
     

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