iPad STREET FIGHTER IV Volt - [Capcom]

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  1. DoctaMario

    DoctaMario Well-Known Member

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    Everyone wants to be a low tier hero. xD

    Cody's got a couple setups into Ultra and a half decent anti-air though. Why would you say he's worse than, say, Chun?

    Abel I could possibly see. Mak, I disagree with just because so many can keep her out so easily, because she doesn't really have a reliable way to Ultra outside of raw, or off Karakusa, and because she takes forever to build meter by whiffing moves.

    Why do you feel that way about Honda?

    Guile's not A+ imo because his Ultra sucks and he can't really FADC Ultra reliably.
     
  2. HarlequinRogue

    HarlequinRogue Well-Known Member

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    He has 2 main ultra setups, ruffian, fadc, ultra or ex zonk, fadc, ultra.

    Ruffian misses against crouching and im not breaking my fingers to hit confirm a ex zonk.

    Jaw crusher isnt as good as it is in AE. If you use his specials to aa, they can be easily avoided by changing distance.

    His back dash is awful and his projectile can't keep up with others.

    Cody really requires meter to do anything. Your punish isn't good enough or even fast enough. Against a blocked spiral arrow, you have to do cr jab xx criminal upper, because st p is too slow
     
  3. DoctaMario

    DoctaMario Well-Known Member

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    #32963 DoctaMario, Jan 25, 2013
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    Requiring meter to be effective is one reason for some of the people I put in the C tier. But the fact that he can actually combo into Ultra means he can do SOMETHING right even if he's weak in a lot of other departments.
     
  4. mooken

    mooken Well-Known Member

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    Jump-P, Ultra.
    Ax Kick, Ultra.
    Hayate>Super>Ultra.
    Invincible EX Overhead.
    Instant Axe > cr.mp > Hayate
    Corner crumple damage for days.

    Ridiculous damage and mix-ups. Great priority on the jumping LP. Standing HK that hits low with raaange. No-punish EX headbutt. Invincibility on the EX Squat start-up. I don't claim to have a really great viper, but I have trouble keeping out an aggressive honda. Honda's jumping LP beats out or trades with Viper's everything. I have to stand kick, in order to win out on trade damage.
     
  5. HarlequinRogue

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    I've also tried to exclusively play cody and he's just generally terrible. He has bad range with normals and no good way to apply pressure.

    I don't think cody has any good matchups. Even against sakura/makoto/yun, the matchup is close to 50-50
     
  6. Apprunner

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    S:

    Sagat, Ryu, Viper

    A:

    Guile, Gief, Bison, Akuma

    B:

    Cammy, Ken, Blanka

    C:

    Everyone else

    F:

    Cody (its criminal how bad he is...) :D
     
  7. TheXion

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    Student Physiotherapist
    Leonel's creepy roommate
    When TenOnez rusts, he reacts oxygen with the metal in the SF servers running the mechanics in his matches, allowing him to defy the SF laws.

    I was gonna guess: Quantum string theory of SF = C (speed of light) x Focus attack? ;-)

    I've always said that a Makoto player with >1bar is one of the most dangerous characters. Whenever I played Nash with 4 bars, I KNEW I WAS GONNA LOSE!!

    Stop tryin to flirt! I'm not single, but Hieu is always up for some fresh meat hahaha! Don't pretend Hieu. Jk, seriously though, our community is the most bad ass of its kind, I love these hoes and would let them take a bullet for me any day XD

    I know how it feels to sit here and read things that totally make no sense XD like when Celine talks about combos when all you need with Guile is:
    Jump K + sweep ALL DAY then walk back and press SP then forward SP hahaha! Or when App says Cammy is B tier (what sort of long post would this be without an old skool jk).

    On the topic of tiers:
    Zangief & Sagat - minimal effort, maximal damage, high hp.
    Abel > Ken, why would Ken be higher???
    Bottom: Cody is trash tier and deserves bottom.

    Capt and Mooken, I am lovin your technology!! Thanks for teaching us these things I (unfortunately) will never master :p
     
  8. (PHO)

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    I hate cody, I've literally trained every character in this game for days except for Cody, I just don't like him for some reason
     
  9. DuysterTheBeast

    DuysterTheBeast Well-Known Member

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    @docta: Honda is god tier thanks to me :D. No combo into ultra for Honda btw. Why guile belongs to A+ simply because he's OP u don't really need a reliable combo to ultra to win; in fact, he has all that just dig deep to it more I have seen a guy did low jab sonic three times before and dash forward ultra. Guiles normals are too good for this game plus u can be a bitch and walk back all day sonic chippin out then anti air.

    Cody is not that bad. I have no bottom tiers I think a lot of them belong to bottom tiers but Cody is usable just be a crook with him.
     
  10. DoctaMario

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    #32970 DoctaMario, Jan 25, 2013
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    Consider me told! xD Nashberry is really the only player I've ever seen to be really effective with Mak (haha Hieu! :D ) Everything she can do is predicated on being able to get in, and that's the hardest part for her.

    Honda seems the same way to me. If you mess up and he gets in you're f*cked, but keeping him out isn't as hard as it is some other characters, and unless he gets in, he's marginally effective.

    Cody isn't really a pressure character, more
    Reactionary like Fei. I think if you're trying to play him offensively you're asking for a beating.

    Guile's a zoner, he HAS to have good normals or he'd be a crap character all around. He's meant control the space in front of, and above him with those normals. Dhalsim's thr same way. Controlling space is harder that learning combos and that's a more important part of playing those two.
     
  11. HarlequinRogue

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    That's the problem. He lost all his pressure moves from AE. so he's just a pile of steaming shit...
     
  12. DoctaMario

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    Is he even a pressure character in AE? o_O
     
  13. HarlequinRogue

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    He has the best frames traps in the game. He has the 2nd best anti air normal.

    Check replays of i8600011 or momochi playing cody. They always stun people
     
  14. ivwshane

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    I think chun Li is the weakest character, slightly below cody. Her ultra is almost useless and her moves have too much recovery. I think I've played some of the best chun fighters on volt who I think would destroy me with any other character and they all struggle.
     
  15. (PHO)

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    Lolololol

    I just finished watching sf EVO 2012 that infiltration guy is something else..
     
  16. mooken

    mooken Well-Known Member

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    Infiltration also cakewalked through Street Fighter 25th Anniversary Invitationals (well he lost 0-3 to Daigo, then came back to win 3-0 and 3-0) and SoCal Regionals this past weekend.
     
  17. fffan7777

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    A zonk cody makes the cody-bison matchup at least 6-4. I forgot the guy's name but that matchup felt impossible... zonk trumps everything. Only way to counter that is with neutral jumps, cr.lk, cr.hk, and throws. Neutral jumps have to be done preemptively or else cody has enough time to block. cr.lk has no range, so there's limited uses. cr.hk has too much startup and will probably get hit by something before it connects, plus it's a huge gamble since it's non-FADCable in volt. If the match is in a throw range, they'll be smart enough not to zonk.
     
  18. User58394

    User58394 Well-Known Member

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    I meant like, cross over, while the guy is throwing so he can't throw. Anything.

    If he can cross over and be invincible to attacks, maybe throws is what I'm thinking. I want to be invincible to throw during the roll as a mixup.

    I know you get throwed, I'm just wondering if you can dodge the throw.
     
  19. staffordling

    staffordling Well-Known Member

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    Why is this game sending me messages outside of gameplay? Very annoying and precisely why iOS gaming is terrible.
     
  20. Apprunner

    Apprunner Well-Known Member

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    If it is hate mail, then you should cherish it. :D. They are like trophies :D
     

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