Steve Jobs slams Adobe Flash in open letter

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  1. tsharpfilm

    tsharpfilm Well-Known Member

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    Thoughts on Flash
    - Steve Jobs (April, 2010)

    Mmm... It doesn't seem he likes it very much...
     
  2. d1

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    He makes valid points though.
     
  3. therhino

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    Pwnd. Adobe got pwnd.
     
  4. yourofl10

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  5. :p but yeah, 1685 words from Mr. Jobs
     
  6. ScottColbert

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    What's interesting is some of those are the same reasons I don't buy Apple products.
     
  7. tsharpfilm

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  8. yourofl10

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    pwned
     
  9. iphoneprogrammer

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    lolz
     
  10. GBX

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    "productS"
    He has one apple product

    selfpwned
     
  11. Stroffolino

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    Job's article presents some seemingly reasonable justifications for why Apple doesn't want Flash on the iPhone, but most of the concerns make little sense taken in context of what's already allowed and what the supposed user impact would be. He claims Apple care about battery life and UI consistency, yet I've never seen a native app rejected for any of these reasons.
     
  12. MidianGTX

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    If Apple cared that much about battery life the iPhone's wouldn't be so utterly dreadful ;)
     
  13. Deewin

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    It's still pretty bad but I think it's still excellent compared to the phones I've used before. I had the Helio Ocean before owning the 1st gen iPhone and the battery life for that thing was like 3 hours max with moderate web browsing and texting.
     
  14. lord-sam

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    there's some good points, but are small web developers going to bother converting to HTML5? I know many sites using Flash that probably wouldn't know what it was! This is my only problem with ipod not having Flash, i cannot visit local bussiness sites.
     
  15. Vester

    Vester Well-Known Member

    Hmmm that's true! My phone has a much longer battery life than my friends iPhone.
     
  16. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    What's the norm for smartphone's battery life? A smartphone that has all this amazing shit the iphone has (touch screen that works, apps, music, internet, video, etc.) , not some basic piece of shit.
     
  17. Native apps are voluntary downloads. Steve's talking about making it a part of the OS such that it can't be avoided.

    And he does have a point. Flash is a pig on resources, and one of the biggest reasons people want Flash on the iPhone -- Flash games -- doesn't even make sense since most of the games require a mouse and/or keyboard. They just wouldn't work on a touchscreen. It would be nice if Flash video was supported too so websites that use it for embedding work properly, but Flash is an intermediary that requires a plugin. HTML5 doesn't and does everything Flash does and then some, and it's an open standard, so it's much more likely to see widespread adoption as time wears on.

    Not to be an apologist, I do think it would be nice if we had the option to enable Flash just to get us by while HTML5 builds steam, but Steve's trying to look forward to standards that are likely to be around for the long haul, and HTML5 could very easily replace Flash in the long run.
     
  18. Scaramoosh

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    He makes no valid argument to why we can't have the choice to install a flash app at our own risk. Sure don't build it into the phone by default until Adobe fixes the problems, however please just let me have ****ing choice. He says Adobe are slow to act and yet I can't frigging add my own text tones or change the background or put the apps into folders etc etc.
     
  19. Spaztrigger

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    BURN, Adobe!!!!!!!!! BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

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