Well man, I don't know what to tell you. You can beat it with about any amount of HP as long as it is above 20k. I've beat all bosses with full thunder suit, which has 24k ish HP, and I didn't have to heal. But yeah, 40k HP is a good amount to be able to survive.
Which weapon did you use? Did you have a team or were you in single player mode? Do you think the trinity bow is good for it? I'm saving up for it but i'm not sure... Wow, I have a lot of questions...
haha hardly a lot of quesitons. =p I use the M-27B1 machine gun, fully upgraded. I can do it solo and with a team, a team is usually harder cause my teammates don't usually pull their own weight. Trinity bow is not good for boss battles at all, none of them. If you like pvp then it's pretty good, probably the best. The trinity bow isn't half bad against the alien waves, but you could use the nova27 or M-27B1 or Crab weapons and be just fine. So I wouldn't recommend using the trinity bow for PvE unless you really want to.
Best weapon If you calculate the amount of damage per 1.00 (most gun's speeds are faster than that) The five top weapons (not nessecaraly in this order) is Trinity M2781 R700-AA Nova windblade I have nova and love it, have m2781 but slows me down and takes time to warmup, have windblade and it is pretty good, i don't like snipers because they are easy to dodge, and want the trinity because also have splash radius. In PvP recommend trinity or nova27(mostly trinity) or the windblade if you can get close to an enemy In PvE I like windblade(no energy cost) but in bosses i think M2781 is okay and don't use windblade. I like the trinity and nova for this.(for this the splash radius doesn't matter because there is only one enemy. I like the nova more) In this there should have been the laser cannon but since it has a cooldown time i hate it... What are your oponions?
Weapon & Suits selection Hi guys, I am a rank 5 player,with beginner suits and no upgrade sword ( cutter ), now i have 1.7million and i don't really know what armor and weapon to choose. Should i 1) Get the M-2781 and try to get full set thunder suit( after up 1 rank) 2) Get the Nova27 and try to get full set atom suit(after up 1 rank) Also,can you guys teach me how to earn cash more effectively because now i really hard to earn cash ,and thunder suit,atom and nova27, m-2781 are expensive. Btw,I lags in online co-op mode ,airplane mode opened,iPhone 4s without jailbreak,ios 5.0.1 Sorry to have tons of question, appreciate for reply..
To get I have to ask you what is your armor now? Because the best gold weapon is either the nova27 or M-2781, I like decision number 2 until you rank up more and can get draco armor. When you do get a speedy backpack and get the M-2781. Getting mithril is easier now so fight bosses and get the free mithril. With the mithril I think get infinite ammo backpack or windblade or trinity bow(if you play PvP) An effective way to get gold would be bosses. PvP is my favorite type but that barely gives you any money. Bosses can give you at the very least 199,999 and the gold amount for any boss starts to decrease. I can get about a million a day, (I'm not that good) but spend it really fast =) For bosses the two weapons you stated are good. So get either one so you can get even better armor and eventually get the m-2781 for sure. In your backpack you should have m-2781 and nova and if you like (i don't) a sniper rifle. Get a good backpack(gives you speed, you'll need it) and also store some bonus things. Right now I have windblade(only use it when I'm out of energy), nova, m-2781, and a bazooka(My mistake) in my backpack. I think when you rank up get the armor and when you rank to draco armor don't get it unless you really want it. Then I'm put all my focus into single mode and ranked up and got perseus armor. I think you already had the hang of this game and looking at other posts either option of yours would be good, play bosses get gold/mithril and buy more armor. When you have m-2781 or nova upgrade them and don't worry about other weapons unitl you have a strong liking for some mithril weapon, don't get any more gold weapons. Get the best armor you can by single player mode or multiplayer bosses, or actually survival mode in lair on multiplayer.(Stand on a hill and just shoot down, speed won't matter much) hope this helped
I am now using the beginning suits,never change. So you have states that I can either get the M-2781 or Nova27,but first I need to get a better armor like atom or Thunder.But if I spend my 1.7mil to buy either the weapon or the armor, I still cant earn money by killing bosses because I will face dying problem or damage out put problem, means I can't use the boss killing way to earn money to get the armor and weapon... isnt it...? sorry to have a lot of question... appreciate for your reply!!
Use hyper clips and health restores. Your health is a problem, I wouldn't wait to rank up to solve it, I would get Strike or titan sets of armor and get the FL334AR or similar assault rifle. In your next reply tell me your gamecenter and I think I could help you out in a boss if you stay close to me. Don't be afraid to die, you lose some ammo but nothing else happens. Wrath of Mantis is the easiest one and if you beat it you could get some Mithril. My gamecenter is Darthguy101. You could also play the boss on single, I think it is easier and buy some armor that isn't as good as atom or thunder. I didn't have a good weapon for so long and was perfectly fine. Don't worry about a set of armor that you can't get yet, you won't be very successful when getting money
I'd actually disagree with Darthguy on the armour, because none of the full-suit bonuses really seem that good until you can buy the Thunder or Atom sets. I'd recommend buying armour one piece at a time (not necessarily from the samet set) based on the following considerations: HP - if you just want as much HP as possible at a good cost, look at the CHEST pieces - they generally have the most HP locked up in them, but are also generally the most expensive. Speed - higher speed means greater ability to evade attacks (VERY useful when you're using a sword). Strike legs will provide you with +1 speed and a fair HP boost. However, note that by the time you can actually GET the Strike legs, you're only one level off the Thunder legs, which have the same bonus. I would alternatively recommend the ECO-03-VI backpack if you don't intend to spend any mithril on backpacks, though it gives out much less HP than the Strike legs. You could always pair the ECO with a chest piece though, if you're willing to spend a little more. Gold - several helmets give you gold bonuses, as do the ECO-03-VI and SAM-005-I backpacks. Backpacks will be more useful in the long run, but they're also relatively less cost effective in terms of HP. Power - the Hydra and Strike hands give out some power bonuses, but I'd personally ignore them in favour of the other items you can buy - they give out the least HP compared to other armour components. Basically, my reasoning for not buying a full suit until the Thunder set is because for the HP bonus a full armour set gives you...a single piece of armour from the next set up probably matches or surpasses it. Btw, what level do you have your M-27B1 at, Darthguy? If you've got it anywhere near level 8, use a hyper clip and just blast at the Mantis -- it will literally die in a matter of seconds, and won't even get the chance to move. Good way of helping out Fro5tCrown get some money
I wasn't nessacarily recommending a full set, i just thought Fro5tCrown should buy armor now. Also my M-2781 is 5-6 upgraded but the problem with it is that when fighting the aliens in the first part it is annoying, they swarm on you from the back and front and it's hard to turn around.(compare it with nova) also the aliens are so quick to kill but when you turn off the gun it takes a few seconds to re-shoot. Thats why I dislike it a tad. Verses the Mantis by itself it is the best. I think Fro5tCrown's best choice now it to get good armor pieces and backback to boost speed.
Don't bother getting any armor past the fortune set of armor. Once you have the fortune set of armor, work on getting a decent weapon preferably an assault rifle (I got the fl33er rifle). Then save up for the thunder armor, don't bother getting any other armor because you can't solo any boss with any armor below the thunder armor, so don't even bother. well I don't really know what to tell you for earning gold. what I did when I was your rank is I just did siegfried boss stage, but I only did the initial wave of aliens and then just left the game after I reached the boss fight. That way I earned a ton of gold and it was a pretty easy level to camp on. But that was a long time ago. I'm sure now with these more recent updates you can just farm bosses now, mantis or poison pit boss, maybe the higher ranked bosses if you feel up for it, or can get someone to carry you. lol (note that this was when I had partially/full thunder suit and only a fl33r assault rifle partially/fully maxed out). Though eventually you want to be getting armor that have % gold increase on them so you can get a ton of gold fast. I believe the best combo for now is Thunder/Phoenix Helm, Cygni Chest, Thunder hands of if you want to pay mithril (which I don't) you can get the Adom. Hands that have 5% gold increase..which isn't enough for me to want to pay mithril for, and lastly you want to get the Adom. boots. They have horrible speed, but give 10% gold which is amazing.
Weapon & Suits selection To Darthguy, my name in game center is FRO5TCROWN, and I think I have added you.(you can add me again ) So it seems that even I try to mix Thunder & Atom armor together in store,the Nova27 damage is still lower than full set Atom(bcos of the beam bonus), will you guys recommend me to get full set atom IF I get nova 27 ?? Also,if I get the M-2781, do u guys recommend me to get FULL SET of Thunder armor ????? By the way, is hybrid armor really good ?, hybrid armor don't have suit bonus..... Tons of question...... thanks for the replies!!
Fro5tCrown, if you get full thunder armor the only thing it adds to you is speed and the power(it is great!). Then your speed is 6(with M-2781 if your backpack doesn't speed you up) but with atom everything except for the legs; make them thunder, then you still have the same speed with more health. What I did was get atom armor with nova and it was pretty good. Some will say that thunder is the best armor and it is okay nova is still good. But here is my weapon recommendations PvP: nova PvE: crab PvB: m-2781 You may look at the price of crab and faint but get nova and the armor can be either all thunder, all atom, or atom everything but legs which are thunder. This is really your choice because if you have beyond 20000 health you're fine, so focus on your power after that.
Anyone know of a way we can record directly from the iPod/Phone/Pad while we're playing? I'm quite interested in seeing how everyone actually plays with their choice of equipment (as in, rather than a verbal description, I'd be quite interested to actually see how people are moving and shooting with their weapon and armour choices) Fro5tCrown, while I do recommend getting both the M-27B1 and the full Thunder suit, their effective usage takes a little while to get used to for the bosses starting from Siegfried. I've heard of a few players capable of using that combination on literally all available bosses and levels, but that requires a playstyle that I can't really get down myself just yet. It's definitely worth the investment though, the Thunder armour allows for the most powerful damage output possible in the game so far.
I disagree. The nova is the gun you should get, you see, when fighting the boss the combination is good but when in double rages the monsters will kill you, in double rages i strongly reccomend speed and okay power, nova and the combos I reccomended earlier is what I use.
Well I disagree and agree with you. The M-27B1 is an amazing weapon and helps clear the initial alien wave fast and kill the bosses faster. If you can manage to get 7+ speed WITH the M-27B1 equipped, then you should be able to dodge every boss attack in the game. It can be done with 6 speed, but you need to be a good distance away from the boss to be able to dodge some of the charges. Though I do agree that you should get the Nova27 before you get the M-27B1 weapon. The nova27 is much cheaper and even more cheap to upgrade compared to the M-27B1, so it is an amazing starting weapon. So I'd recommend getting the Nova27 first, get it mostly upgraded, then get the M-27B1 weapon. After you have the M-27B1 + Nova27 fully upgraded, then if you want go ahead and try out the crab. It is a pretty good weapon, for most players it will replace the Nova27. As for armors, I'll try to make this simple. I personally find that having speed helps me dodge aliens and bosses attacks so much easier to the point that I almost never get hit. So I really enjoy the Thunder suit and rarely get hit. If you are having trouble staying alive, go ahead and start getting better armor. The atom set it okay, and the draco set isn't...bad..I guess, but the Cygni armor is THEE armor you want to get if you have trouble staying alive. Has 40k+ HP and has the most speed in the game, you literally have to try to get hit in order to die..or just not be paying attention at all. So depending on how often you get hit, you can always choose to get a armor with more HP, but the thunder suit is the best armor for killing bosses fast while still having a good amount of speed in order to dodge everything.
Armor Yes the cyngi armor is great but the perseus armor is too. It has around 63000 hp and pretty good speed. I don't have the crab but I think it is better than the M-2781(forgot to mention in my best weapons list) technically the m-2781 has better speed and all but it takes a few seconds to heat up, which makes me annoyed. Also with the bosses it is hard to dodge. Full perseus armor(which i'm close to) with the m-2781 is speed 7 (My backpack speeds me up) and I reccomend a speedy backpack to everyone, to me what you are saying is speed 7 and up with m-2781 is the best, is speed 9 with the crab almost as good (This is what I am trying to get now.) if not then you should give me some advice in the m-2781 I have it upgraded a lot and helps but vs siegefried i get smashed a LOT. If so, yay!!!!!!!!! I used the crab with a friend and loved it. I'm already getting perseus armor so I need advice.
The Perseus armour might actually be even more robust than its 60,000+ HP suggests: one of its bonuses is "-30% damage for melee attacks", implying that the monster hordes will do significantly less damage to you unless they're either using projectiles or poison spit. Darthguy, if you have a speed of 7 with the M-27B1, you need to keep distance when it's preparing its flying charge attack, and then strafe in a circular curve to either side. Doing so will allow you to dodge its flying charge attack, even while firing at full automatic when you're moving. Its fireball attacks, I find you can generally avoid them if you're strafing AWAY from Siegfried, but if that's not really working, then just stop firing and dodge until it stops. Also, if you're feeling insane enough...try using the M-27B1 with a speed of 5. From personal experience, you are DEFINITELY going to get hit by all the bosses (assuming they don't flinch), but I find that I have a much better appreciation and understanding of how agile you are when you've got 7 speed. Also, I'm going into multiplayer matches with a speed of 11 -- after doing PvE runs with a speed of 5, I'm feeling like a complete and utter ninja o__O
Ninja what do you use in muitiplayer So the perseus armor is good... Right? Is the crab good, I don't know i just don't like the m-2781 very much, I'll make it full and see...
In multiplayer, I'm using the full Cygni set with the STK-06-ZZ pack. That's pretty much enough speed to sneak up on anyone with a Windblade in a flash, but it's also enough speed to maintain your distance if you'd prefer mid-range combat e.g. shooting at someone with the Nova or Crab from mid-range while they're trying to get within melee range of you with the Windblade. (Hint: With that much speed, you're still ridiculously agile even with *certain* overkill weapons which slow you down...) I'd say the Perseus Armour is almost like a modified, improved version of the Phoenix Armour: both suits give 15% power, while the Perseus gives 5% more gold because of its suit bonus. While the Phoenix possesses regenerative properties (+60 HP per kill), the Perseus has about 7000 more HP in total and a 30% damage reduction to melee strikes. The Phoenix also reduces energy consumption by 20%, whereas the Perseus gives a 10% EXP bonus, which aren't really comparable (unless you want to say that EXP bonuses are completely useless if you're already level 12, so the energy reduction wins). The following calculations ignore the Phoenix's regenerative properties: Assuming that all damage received is "non-melee", the percentage increase in defence from changing to the Perseus from the Phoenix is is: (62,000 / 55,000) - 1 = 12.7% Assuming that all damage received is "melee", the percentage increase in defence is: [(62,000 / 0.7) / 55,000] - 1 = 61.0% Long story short, I think the Perseus can pretty much replace the Phoenix Armour (the regeneration of the Phoenix is fairly negligible when enemy hits are doing around 3000 damage). It's quite a crazy piece of work, if you think about it that way. Whether the Crab is good depends on what you're using it for, I'd say. In single player, it's pretty good for making sure nothing sneaks up on you. In a PvE match against other players, there's a good chance your teammates will kill the enemies before you can if they're using the Nova or the M-27B1, because the Crab's plasma balls travel slower than bullets and lasers. However, the Nova is slightly weaker than the Crab, and the M-27B1 has no splash damage of piercing properties, meaning that the Crab can still kill quite a few enemies if they're all clustered together in one spot. I'm just not sure the Crab is good in terms of the kill-stealing game >.> On the topic of killing the standard enemy aliens, not the bosses...does anyone here ever use the railgun? Or is that a tactic that only I'm fond of? >.>
