Universal Star Warfare: Alien Invasion - (by Freyr Games)

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by Echoseven, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Arrow0x

    Arrow0x Well-Known Member

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    you should mix boss fights with PvP. PvP gold is truly near non-existent. I personally just kill Serpent and Double Rages (sometimes Siegfried) once a day, and go on to PvP. I actually like PvP quite much, especially because I'm quite good at hacking IAP freaks into oblivion.

    about freeloaders in boss fights, I don't really mind, as long as they don't die, especially just before the actual boss fight.

    (occasionally, though, I leave them to die just before the end of the boss fight. I trust most freeloaders don't put great healths in their pack :))
     
  2. undead.exe

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    To answer one of your questions/"niggles", per se, the reason that I'm personally quite into stats is because I'm a strategist, and primarily focused on PvE. All bosses above Wrath of Mantis have a fair bit of HP, so figuring out damage outputs and set-up strategies tends to help move things along. I apply this to PvP as well because it helps define my playstyle: reasoning out what weapon set-ups are capable of allows me to figure out strengths and weaknesses much more quickly, and thus allow me to play much more strategically rather than charging in with any weapon I've got (not that it stops me from getting killed, mind you, since I've got more strategy than actual skill :p)

    Similarly to Asasnator, I agree that PvP is quite unbalanced for various reasons: mithril equipment aside, I don't like the lack of movement sensitivity in this game, because it means I can't throw off opponents by varying my pace, only by changing directions. It won't stop me from playing PvP, but the final straw is that the rewards are negligible next to what you get from PvE. A lack of finesse control, the effects of lag, and little reward incentive generally has me focused more on PvE than anything, but also recall that I'm rarely online relative to everyone else on here because of my time zone.

    You might find some more PvP activity on the Freyr forums, but I tend to avoid direct competition on that side because people over there play it to prove their superiority, rather than for a bit of fun. Not too sure what you meant by stopping people from playing how they want, but it's simply down to this game having better PvE design than its PvP counterpart.
     
  3. JediKnight

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    I totally agree. I love strategy becasue seriously, I have have so many Serpent fights where there is a pheonix user and they have to regenerate. I don't like the idea of that because I had to actually try because now I don't pack any 25000 health packs making me have to survive. Plus, in my noob days I always used nova because of glitch and people were like "dude, you should switch to plasma neo." *slaps myself and starts explaining that even without a glitch how nova is better*

    Yeah the thing I hate about PvP is unbalanced I mean really, it is quite frustrating to be shot purposely for 4 seconds straight by a noob for an expirement and then finally give in and trinity them once and they die. I just HATE THAT. But now I usually play with upper level people and is fine and have fun. I seriously have no problem with IAP users seeing that I can defeat them. Also they had to either jailbreak(losers) or actually soend mney which I personally think is quite fair, I mean I value real money over mithril by a long shot.

    Freyr forums, yeah they cuss because we pointed out that they were freeloading or doing what we do to freeloaders to normal players. Not going over there again. But really the game has kind of bad PvE because of swords and spending in-game money for ammo...
     
  4. JediKnight

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    Yeah I do a serpent everyday but always find it depressing.
    STUPID FREELOADERS!!!!!!!! Just saying.:cool: Also now I have 3 million, nothing bad, whew. But I actually got 300,000 total from each day of PvP... :eek:
     
  5. undead.exe

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    Well, to be fair, people aren't going to like it if they feel like you're criticising them, which is all too easy when you don't quite agree with them. A little patience and choice of words can go a long way to trying to persuade someone to see things from your perspective in a civilised manner, but everyone's free to think and do as they will. It's the overall competitiveness that makes me reluctant to try PvP too much over there, though they're cooperative during PvE from personal experience so far.
     
  6. undead.exe

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    Funny that. I'm actually getting more quitters than freeloaders as of late, though I didn't think I was hogging that many of the aliens myself >.>
     
  7. JediKnight

    JediKnight Well-Known Member

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    Pretty succesful aint it. This is called speed versus minigun.(I was speed) Yeah lthere was a thunder with minigun, a noob, a full draco with windblade and blademaster and finally an andro with laser cannon, I died twice both because of draco armor guy paired with the andro user. One long range one close.*shudder*
    I like PvP.
     
  8. JediKnight

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    You and sheinfell were part of it... But I really want to PvP them to see if they meet your nukeness. If they don't just another bunch of IAP/long time so strategy users. if they do, well I'm gonna learn how they do it.:eek:
     
  9. JediKnight

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    You should try using your nukes on PvE... I know I would bail.:(:eek: Just kidding, I would run around picking up every powerp you make the aliens drop just like what DBC did toSuperion.:eek::rolleyes:
     
  10. undead.exe

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    That's why I was making it clear it was my opinion rather than claiming that it's an absolute truth - and even then, you can see how someone might bristle at how strongly I espouse a different stance to them, hence the need for patience and some degree of persistence.

    You might find this amusing then: my "nukeness" actually got overpowered in a CTF match yesterday. Factors included a fairly strong enemy team and possible lag, because I was taking damage even when I was hiding behind cover: you don't "take" damage in this game, it's other players "transferring" damage to you (i.e. if they see you lagging and standing in one spot on their screen, they can keep on shooting you to do damage to you, even if you're actually hiding somewhere else entirely on your own screen).

    Suffice it to say, my set-up is nowhere near invincible, and I have never claimed it to be: I should have the upper hand at close range, but that's not a guaranteed win. My skills aren't anything spectacular either - I rely more on strategy rather than having some sort of godly aim in multiplayer.
     
  11. undead.exe

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    I HAVE tried it, actually, and here's the verdict: based on the level of control I have over the RPG combo so far, it's about as useful as a Windblade. My screen tends to move up and down because I'm constantly scrolling between weapons, which means my accuracy suffers at longer ranges. Against Siegfried in particular, I can't accurately hit him unless I'm standing in his face, and that usually ends with me getting bowled over.

    The damage output at close range? If I buy and upgrade the third RPG I originally wanted, it should be more powerful than the M-27's damage output when you factor in all the damage bonuses. Overall though? It's not that practical as it is because of how little control you have over your aim, and how slow the rockets move. It's basically a high-powered replacement of the Windblade and Trinity as it currently stands, and really only viable at point-blank range.
     
  12. JediKnight

    JediKnight Well-Known Member

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    So pretty bad in PvE? What is the third RPG?
     
  13. JediKnight

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    Don't sell yourself short, lag is unfair. If I can get the photo I posted on page 515 and you are nuking everytime you have a nuke,(or even an antimatter-matter bomb:eek:) so I assume that being over powered means you were lagging a whole lot.
     
  14. undead.exe

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    RPG-24, the most expensive gold-based RPG there is. Its fully upgraded power is the same as the combined effect of the three Trinity explosions (i.e. 1575 = 525 x 3), but the Trinity won't get the 30% damage bonus on the Cygni. If you used the combo on your power hybrid, the Trinity's a better choice than the RPG-24 -- greater range with the three explosions, and a lower speed penalty.

    In PvE, it's impractical as it currently stands. You CAN use it, but you'll find it considerably more efficient to use the Trinity as a close-ranged weapon - most aliens just don't have the HP to survive one full cycle of the RPG combo (or even one RPG actually), so you're sorta just wasting ammo trying to use that on them >.>
     
  15. JediKnight

    JediKnight Well-Known Member

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    The RPG is about 1 third of trinitys firerate making one arrow every shot the same DPS as the RPG-24.
     
  16. undead.exe

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    We appear to be experiencing a temporary player drought in the match set-up threads. Hmm, where IS everyone? >.>
     
  17. JediKnight

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    Freyr forums? I hope not.:eek:
     
  18. undead.exe

    undead.exe Well-Known Member

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    ...yeaaaaah, you don't quite get the point of the RPG combo then >.>

    All three RPGs do a lot of damage, but have low firerates - that's what's dragging their DPS down. What I'm doing is switching weapons while the one I just fired reloads, which is similar to how Superion switches to the R700-AA while the Laser Cannon is cooling down.

    Note that a single burst with the Trinity still does the same level of base damage as the RPG-24, which is why I said that you'd be better off with the Trinity if you ever used that set-up on the power hybrid armour. On the Cygni, the RPG-24 will have higher power, but you will also be momentarily slower due to the unmatched -2.5 speed penalty (another reason why you want to switch weapons quickly).
     
  19. JediKnight

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    I meant that the RPG-24 itself sucks, I do get the fact you use the rockets during each others reload time so the power is the same if the firerate is "shortened".
     
  20. undead.exe

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    Not seeing much of us over there, I must say, just the odd familiar name or two. People are busy with other things, I guess, though I hope this place doesn't become a graveyard :/

    I think my deteriorating skills are starting to show - I've played about two matches with people from the other side, and I'm losing a fair bit more HP than what I used to before. Thankfully, I'm still strong enough to survive Serpent without an issue, but I think BTHD has drained quite a bit of my attention and finesse away from this side >.>
     

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