Universal Spellfall - Puzzle RPG (by Backflip Studios)

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  1. ArtNJ

    ArtNJ Well-Known Member

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    Its too hard to progress as a free player. Every day I wake up to 2 areas having been recaptured. How much do they expect one to play every day just to catch up on it? Or am I getting unlucky on having so many recaptures?
     
  2. Spinsbee

    Spinsbee Active Member

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    I haven't got the special swords yet, but I'd assume fire slayer means the sword does something against fire types of enemies, maybe extra damage?
     
  3. Spinsbee

    Spinsbee Active Member

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    I just leave them recaptured, I don't think there's any need to go back to them, unless you need to grind for coins or exp.
     
  4. BobFarmer

    BobFarmer New Member

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    Claideamh: How to choose

    As anyone with multiple choices for bonus swords, I was initially confused by way "Fire Slayer," "Water Slayer," etc really meant. Initially I presumed that if I was fighting an enemy with a weakness to water, I'd naturally want to wield the Water Slayer sword. Through some testing I've come to deduce that this is not the case.

    I went into the 1st area, 2nd battle. The lvl 1 enemies I tested on here all had 8 defense. In the test I had 70 attack. I ensured I only matched 3 and did not get a critical hit. I ran many tests, but had the same result regardless of which elements were chosen. Here are the results against a monster weak to Energy:

    Using the Energy Slayer and making a non-energy match, I did 306 damage.

    Using the Energy Slayer and making an energy match, I did 503 damage.

    Using the Water Slayer (Electric Claideamh) and making a non-energy match, I did 459 damage.

    Using the Water Slayer and making an energy match I did 645 damage.

    I had the same results with random non-Water Slayer swords as I did using the Energy Slayer.

    In conclusion, it seems that against a weakness of a type, you want the sword of that type, which slays its opposite. For anyone who has been to levels showing both an element representing the monster as well as an element representing its weakness, this makes more sense as you're choosing to slayer the element type of the monster itself.

    I hope this was useful to some, I couldn't find this information anywhere else so I decided to post it myself.
     
  5. Intrepidus

    Intrepidus Member

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    Does anyone know what triggers a recapture?

    Does anyone know how the calendar trick affects recaptures?
     
  6. Nodnarb

    Nodnarb Active Member

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    I was just testing this myself when you posted your results.

    My stats:
    Atk 175
    All runes & armor removed

    King Sodron
    Hp 25682
    Atk 113
    Def 97
    Element water
    Weak energy

    Electric claideamh
    Water slayer
    Crit chance 29%

    Energy 3827
    Fire 3129
    Cold 3129
    Plant 3129
    Water 1565

    Burning claideamh:
    Cold slayer
    Crit 29%

    Energy 2551
    Leaves 2086
    Fire 2086
    Cold 2086
    Water 1043

    Ice claideamh:
    Plant slayer
    Crit 29%

    Energy 2551
    Leaves 2086
    Fire 2086
    Cold 2086
    Water 1042

    Earthen claideamh:
    Energy slayer
    Crit 29%

    Energy 2551
    Leaves 2086
    Fire 2086
    Cold 2086
    Water 1043

    Tide claideamh:
    Fire slayer
    Crit 29%

    Energy 3827
    Leaves 3129
    Fire 3129
    Cold 3129
    Water 1565

    My test shows that the base element weapon as well as the weakness weapon both perform the same under matching conditions & the other 3 are the same as each other.

    Very odd, I suspected the base element weapon to perform the poorest given that the base element attack was the weakest across all weapons.
     
  7. Spinsbee

    Spinsbee Active Member

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    Since it is happening often overnight I suspect it's based on some amount of time. Also I noticed if I don't complete recaptured areas then after a couple of days it seems to stop. It might only recapture up to a certain amount, or maybe it slows down after recapturing some.
     
  8. SeeleyCat

    SeeleyCat Well-Known Member

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    The recaptures aren't happening overnight for me. New recaptures seem to happen shortly after I complete a new area or complete a recaptured zone -- while I'm still playing.

    It's interesting that you're finding that the recaptures slow down if you don't complete them. I've been rushing to complete my recaptures, but new recaptures turn up so fast there is no way I can stay ahead of them. I'm going to try not completing them for a few days and see if they slow down for me.
     
  9. L.Lawliet

    L.Lawliet Well-Known Member

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    Ahh looking at all the slayer stats is confusing.. I don't quite get it. So you should choose the same sword element as the element that represents the monster (on the later stages)?

    And energy matches always output the most damage?
     
  10. Nodnarb

    Nodnarb Active Member

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    The monster I was attacking was water element weak against energy. So the energy sword with the water slayer ability is best (as one would expect).

    For some reason the water sword performed the same.

    Basic sense will tell you that if your enemy is weak against a specific element then use that element against him. The test results just gave you some hard numbers to work with.
     
  11. SeeleyCat

    SeeleyCat Well-Known Member

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    I find it confusing too. I don't currently use the special swords, because I prefer weapons that give me extra moves. Still, earlier today I drew up what I think the above data is saying. Will share here:

    We know that:


    • [*]fire - weak to water

      [*]water - weak to energy

      [*]energy - weak to plant

      [*]plant - weak to cold

      [*]cold - weak to fire​

    Drawn up:
    [​IMG]

    Given what the guys have discovered, it seems that for a given monster element there are two special swords that inflict the most monster damage -- the sword that is slayer of that particular element, and the sword of the element that is stronger (counter-clockwise on the element weakness circle).

    [​IMG]
    Please let me know if any of the above needs adjustment.
     
  12. SeeleyCat

    SeeleyCat Well-Known Member

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    (I think you meant to say that the fire sword performed the same.)
     
  13. hellscaretaker

    hellscaretaker Well-Known Member

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    Question - do you have a period where the game seems to slow down when you start it, as it seems to be trying to load something in the background, after a 1 min it seems to fix it self? How you fix this?
     
  14. Nodnarb

    Nodnarb Active Member

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    Nope :) didn't mean that at all. The electric sword worked best against a water enemy & the water sword worked the same unexpectedly. The fire sword worked less well.
     
  15. SeeleyCat

    SeeleyCat Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the correction, my Dwarven Den buddy. :)
     
  16. naejam

    naejam New Member

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    Friends for SpellFall

    Need friends for Spellfall. If interested add Naejam
     
  17. Poolside

    Poolside New Member

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    Is this the current last boss? If not, can you please share the stats for the last boss? I want to know which elemental sword is best for "endgame", so any recommendation is welcome.
     
  18. Spinsbee

    Spinsbee Active Member

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    King Sodron is the boss for the second water area, which is the 6th area in the game I think, out of what looks like 14 areas. The stats of enemies change if you go back and fight them again when an area is recaptured, so those stats he posted might not be the stats from the first time you fight him.
     
  19. Nodnarb

    Nodnarb Active Member

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    The final boss is corruption type, so no elemental weakness. For him, just mount up your best weapon & best armor. Take runes which compliment the weapon. As for as the armory elemental protection, it will be wasted, so take the armor with the best base defense score or best defense+special ability combo.

    There are 15 levels:
    3 non-element-specific
    2 water
    2 fire
    2 plant
    2 ice
    2 energy
    2 corruption only
     
  20. Nodnarb

    Nodnarb Active Member

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    Regarding recaptures

    By the way, recaptured areas level up along with your own level. I beat the first level of a recaptured are at level 6-7 or something & then ignored it. When I went back finally I was all ready capped out at 25 & the enemies were now level 23-27.
     

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