Universal Sorcery! 4 (by inkle)

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  1. Sparky_63

    Sparky_63 New Member

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    I'm really enjoying playing this and the different endings, but still determined to find the grave of the invisible girl! I haven't quite worked out who the invisible girl is though - is it
    Alizzi
    or the ghost girl in the haunted tavern at the start who's grave appears to be in the cellar?

    Another thing - anyone know what spell the Orange Rock Dust is for or what the bronze rings found in the college do? Are they anything to do with the bronze coins or bronze dome?
     
  2. flamewing

    flamewing Member

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    You also need to
    shout his name during a "naughty" dream sequence, or the budding romance will die
    . Then, what how you talk to him when he
    tries to kill you
    . For good measure, when you
    enter the archmage's library, cast JIG to make him dance; if the ship has sailed, you will have the choice to dance with him
    . This last one isn't required, but it is fun :D
     
  3. Raeheart

    Raeheart Member

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    You can indeed
    ask Courga, but then you have to kill a Snake in his temple.
    And as far as I know, there is no other way to get the first line without fighting something.
     
  4. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    My thoughts exactly. Plus, we still have the option to
    kill the Archmage after Aliizi confronts him
    , which would make her original fate downright impossible.
     
  5. NotintheMood

    NotintheMood New Member

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    Hi, I thought that invisible girls grave was the
    the calm tower in the west collage that was engraved "can't see me here" That seems like a fitting statement for her grave site. & she can't be Bria - bc you can see Bria's bones. Snattacat meat is invisible, right?
    or is there something fun to do in that tower I'm missing?
     
  6. flamewing

    flamewing Member

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    Her original fate
    happens in the past; she will travel back in time to when the archmage was still young
    .
     
  7. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    Not knowing what she does now. I agree with Brian P.
     
  8. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    The other thing I always do is ask him, "Do you want to kill the Archmage, or shall I" before entering the Archmage's chamber. You should then have a few more lines of dialogue to follow through with.
     
  9. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    Make sure you go to the
    flower house
    after you meet her at the Tower of Doors, not before, and talk to the homeowner when she returns.
     
  10. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    I don't know about the orange rock dust. The bronze ring on the skeleton in the Tower of Doors
    will provoke a reaction from Molka, the owner of the house in the alleys of East Mampang
    but it does not seem important.
     
  11. IndyJohn

    IndyJohn Well-Known Member

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    There are also ways within S! 4 to revisit locations from the previous games. So even if it's not in Mampang, that doesn't mean it's not in the game.
     
  12. IndyJohn

    IndyJohn Well-Known Member

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    Actually, I wonder if there is a way to take a detour while flying back to Analand.
     
  13. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    What would trigger it, though? I have won more than once with
    Aliizi
    and never got any additional options on the way home.
     
  14. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    I tried following this route. You can exit the yard back through the Iron Doors, but you can't get back over the palisade near Naggamanteh's chambers. You would need
    the key from the Mucalytic's room
    , so you would need to have gone through the Vaults already. That's too much back and forth for me to try right now...
     
  15. Kaboobie

    Kaboobie Well-Known Member

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    But we're looking for something that is explicitly designated as "the final secret: the grave of the invisible girl". The Tower of Calm does not fit the bill. The spell of that tower is
    mAG
    , and nothing can be done to counter it that I know of.

    As for
    Bria's bones
    , we're currently having that discussion, and some of us believe that her fate has been changed enough that she will no longer
    meet her death at the hands of the Archmage
    .

    I always found Bria's story in S!3 a bit contradictory anyway. In the Ancient World (the past), Bria is retired, living peacefully on her mountain top, having foretold the Archmage's future and then left Mampang. It doesn't appear that she's hiding from the Archmage; they seem to have parted on decent terms. In the Old World (the present), Bria's ghost reveals that the Archmage killed her in a rage over her prophecy, seemingly on the spot, since it came as a surprise to her. The two scenarios don't add up.
     
  16. heckagumshoe

    heckagumshoe Active Member

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    Since we're somewhere around the topic of weird time things, how come in S!2 if you'd picked up Slangg or Courga, you'd go back to the spirit guide, but in S!4 if you convert to Effe you don't lose her when you cast ZEd?
     
  17. spooky23

    spooky23 Well-Known Member

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    Loved the books as a kid. Guess in the days before open world computer/console games, imagination and Steve Jackson ruled. Not bought any of the Sorcery games yet. Reckon I might be in for a treat.

    Do we know how many will be in the completed series?
     
  18. heckagumshoe

    heckagumshoe Active Member

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    If you just mean 'Sorcery!', it's 4. This is the last one.
     
  19. spooky23

    spooky23 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, just Sorcery!

    I know it's 4 but wasn't sure if they made public the amount of games they would release in this series. Might grab the first one tonight and get started.
     
  20. Cheezzhead

    Cheezzhead Well-Known Member

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    #380 Cheezzhead, Sep 30, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2016
    Well, this is interesting.


    Anyway, a couple of us are working on a guide similar to the S!3 one. It should include item locations, how to solve the college towers and get past all the important checkpoints, etc. I'm currently also digging through all the secrets and possible endings this game offers.

    As far as I know, the
    grave of the invisible girl
    is NOT in this game. So presumably in the
    new game+
    mode or whatever Inkle is working on.
     

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