Universal Shark Eaters: Rise of the Dolphins (by Kat McNally)

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  1. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

    DolphinFlipJumpSpin Well-Known Member

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    impressions

    Told ya so ;) . I am very pleased you dig it.

    May I humbly request you to post your review on iTunes.
     
  2. ramzarules

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    of course, i'm typing it :) and may i have an answer for my movement questions? :) Also, i am now anxious about all your great updates that you are planning - let us unlock and control more creatures if possible is a suggestion.
     
  3. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    control

    So a few points

    1. Don't think about the control, or watch your hand. Simply think about which fish you want to hunt and move your dolphin (align) and pounce.

    2. The game isn't about arbitrary control. Its about a "motor-connection" which you will get better and better at. But this is entirely based upon targeting and avoiding enemies.

    3. Go easy on the boost - try to align first and then pounce.

    The better you'll get, the more flow and control you'll have with the game. About the time you master it hopefully we'll have an update. Our timing is a little off - but the game should keep you occupied until next update which will add more content and enemies etc.
     
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    ramzarules Well-Known Member

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    #244 ramzarules, Oct 17, 2014
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    thanks! 5 star review left on Greek appstore, and about the controls, i just have to "feel" them then. I am having a lot of fun, and i imagine it can only increase with the updates that you are planning. This was the first game i bought solely to support the awesome devs, but turns out the game is awesome as well :)

    Edit: after some battles, i unlocked Zoey and now i am facing Kthulu like 20 times, and it became apparent how hard it is to perform a twist exactly in the direction you want. around 50% of the time, when i am facing right and i am swiping left to do a 180o twist and boost to bite, it works. The other 50% the dolphins or zoey, twist down, up, or away from the camera, and i have no idea why it does that. Do i suck? Am i missing something? i figure if i can do it 50%, i should be able to do it whenever i swipe. It frustrates me a bit, because i do it and it works, i take 3 bites out of Kthulu but before the 4th, zoey twists in another direction, the boost takes her away, and i get bit...
     
  5. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    The Call of Kthulu

    Well you're definitely on the higher end of the learning curve - I didn't expect most players to battle Kthulu on day 1.

    So - Bandit is very sensitive to where his intention is - and that's where he goes when he boosts. Sometimes you barely notice it but he has already turned inwards.

    So after you swipe, be gentler with the boost. You have to wait a few more milliseconds (its very response-time sensitive) before you boost.

    ease up on the boost slightly and wait for a clear turn-in shot before.

    But it truly sounds like youre mastering it.

    (Kthulu is not meant to be beaten so easily ;) The 3rd best player right now took almost a week)
     
  6. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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  7. Ikeda

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    Question for you guys:

    What dolphins are in the game? Are there spinners in the game? I have a softspot for them. While I like the Bottlenose (from Florida), I've always enjoyed watching Spinners in the wild. (I was in the Navy and loved to watch them chase the breakers)
     
  8. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    #248 DolphinFlipJumpSpin, Oct 18, 2014
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    Spinner Dolphins

    This question really strikes at the heart of a very profound part in this game. As was covered in the second national geographic article, Bandit is

    “based on three real bottlenose dolphins at the National Aquarium (with a dash of spinner dolphin thrown in) that the lab spent hundreds of hours studying,”

    That “dash of spinner” is far deeper than it sounds. In fact, it is more than a dash – it’s about 30% of the dynamics. First, however, take a look at this animated gif of the type of torque-spin you can actually do in-game (I've posted before).

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    The dolphin-spin dynamics were entirely based upon hours of study of Spinner dolphins from various videos we obtained (some publically available, some from scientists and ocean institutes). They are truly majestic and unique –as you know. Spinners seem to do this for the sheer joy of it, and if you watch the many videos which show them, it really comes through.



    We wanted to recreate this experience. I don't have gif's yet, but you can actually generate spins that look identical to the ones in the real video above. When you breach the surface, during that split second when part of the dolphins body is out of the water, and part is in, you can use the differential (between hydro and aero dynamic drag), to swipe in the right direction and induce a longitudinal torque to spin, just like the spinners do. It’s a quick flick, but has remarkable complexity in the results – as in real life.

    In the update, I plan on having a Spinner character by himself. I also plan on developing the “free jump” card far more elaborately – where you receive rewards based upon the elegance and complexity of your jump.

    Finally, the single most amazing aspect of this project were the comments that came from biologists and trainers who spent their lives around dolphins both in the wild and aquaria. Namely, not only were our dynamics spot on, according to them, but after they spent a lot of time with our game, their eyes “opened up” to the real thing even more. That is, when they would look at dolphins, real dolphins, it is like they could “see things” that they didn’t notice before. This was not anecdotal, almost every single trainer / biologist who played made this comment. That in real-life the animals take on new meaning.

    Its that connection back to nature which I hope "I Am Dolphin" will trick players into doing ;)
     
  9. Ikeda

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    Thanks again for the reply. I live in Annapolis, so I know what you mean about the National Aquarium. And being from Florida, we see Bottlenose all the time. That's one of the reasons I was asking.

    (For those that don't know, Bottlenose dolphins tend to be a bit "chubbier" that Spinners. They have a shorter "bottle" shaped snout. Spinners tend to have longer noses (almost "beak"-like) and are often more lithe. I also believe, though I could be wrong, that they don't grow as long as Bottlenose. They also tend to be more... hyper. They'll jump and spin and in groups they play alot. That's not saying that Bottlenose don't play or porpoise, they just don't seem as acrobatically able as the Spinners. Of course, that last statement is a bit of a clouded personal observation)

    I suppose I'm just going to have to bite the bullet on this one. You've done nothing but impress me over the time watching the game.
     
  10. ramzarules

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    /Begin battle cry AAAARGGGHHHYEAAAH /end battle cry
    i just beat Kthulu!!! :D definitely looking forward to more content now :) is he meant to be the top, or the two blue sharks? i haven't tried those.
     
  11. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    The Mighty Kthulu

    Well I consider him my masterpiece battle :) . It requires skill, patience, and strategy as opposed to just reflexes. I enjoy it the most too. It is one of the top 3 hardest - for certain. Kthulu's speed is deceptive - he is going faster than he looks because of his size - but that makes for this eerie sort of inescapable bite.

    The other two battles are the 2 blue's and the single blue. The single blue actually has 2 modes - and its randomly selected. One is considerably hard - but the other is almost impossible unless you have lightening fast reflexes.

    I know of one person only who has beaten the single blue in that mode.

    But Kthulu is no easy task.
     
  12. Hmm...I don't have the option to fight a single blue shark on the red cards. Did you misplace him? ;)
     
  13. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    Ohhhhhhh shoooot :eek:

    That update will have some surprises
     
  14. So he's not in the game yet?
     
  15. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    Well he should be - I found him on mine when I cycle through but I may have a beta version and for some reason turned him off.

    Was he there in a blue card ?
     
  16. Yes, but I don't remember if I beat him or not (I have a screen cap of the card, so I know it existed). I would have thought the 2 blues on the red card are harder than the one blue on the blue card. You're saying that's not so?
     
  17. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    ai select

    Ok, so there is one ai-selection caveat here - I think I may have randomized the protocol on the single blue. The reason is that it was impossibly fast (beatable, but really hard) - so I wanted to ease him up. The protocols are very similar - but the root probability variable is different. This was for blue-difficulty-cards. In extreme mode - you only were supposed to get the really hard single blue - or the double-blue but I may have forgotten that.

    Sorry - this sounds confusing. I will check precisely and see what is going on.
     
  18. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    Dolphin Surfing

    Don't know if you all have seen this remarkable footage yet


    This is something I've been thinking long about to add into the gameplay. From watching the videos of this behavior (there are many others), it would appear they do this for the sheer joy of it.

    I would have to bring the camera top down, make a sensible wave, and tweak the hydrodynamics so you can ride the speed in a pleasurable way. Its something I think for down the road - but what would have to be nailed is that "feel" of the joy. The ride of the speed, the ease, etc. Essentially its the feel of surfing.
     
  19. Ikeda

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    So... I bought the game...

    Couple of questions:

    1) Why do you take pearls away the first time you lose a battle? It's so annoying.

    2) If I have my dolphin swimming approximately left to right on the screen. If I swipe up it will either: swim up, turn around (and do this weird bow tie thing on the dolphins "neck", or swim away from the screen. I've practiced on some earlier levels and a similar swipe in 3 similar positions completely do different things. Nevermind the fact that you have to combine a swipe with a boost in order to catch anything.

    3) Why are the fish harder to get than the sharks? The target size smaller? I've swam at/through these 3-4 fish more times than I'd care to admit and everytime the dolphin chooses not to open it's mouth I then get bit by all 3 of them (insta killing me).
     
  20. DolphinFlipJumpSpin

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    #260 DolphinFlipJumpSpin, Oct 19, 2014
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    I will answer in a minute - what is your pearl count
     

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