No, I'm complaining that they're releasing an emulator and forcing be to buy the games a second time if I want to use it on that emulator, even though I already own them.
1. They aren't forcing you. 2. If having a game on iDevice is better than having it on a Genesis, why shouldn't they charge for it again?
Fair enough. Poor choice of language on my part. Because the idea of intellectual property is that they are selling you the rights to personal use of the data, not the format it comes in. They should have every right to charge for the things I don't already own (i.e. their emulator), but asking me to pay for ROMs I already own while offering no other way to load them into the app is taking things too far. According to your logic the record labels should have a right to force us to re-purchase all of our music if we want to put it on our iPods, and Apple would be out of business by now.
I think what he is saying is that he already bought the genesis apps Sonic, Golden Axe and Streets of Rage. Two of which are set to be released with the Genesis Collection (Sonic and Golden Axe). He would have to repurchase Sonic and Golden Axe as an in-app purchase to have them on the emulator, which he already bought each game individually. I too am in your shoes, but I honestly think the Genesis Collection games will run the exact same emulator as the current Genesis Apps, so the only difference will be is that you will have a seperate icon for those 2 games instead of them being in the Ultimate Genny App, which is no big deal to me.
No, he's saying why should he have to buy ROMs if he owns the Genesis version and can just rip it himself. Buddy, it doesn't work like that, go buy C64 and see what I mean, okay?
The app idiot, buy the damn C64 emulator app. It's not really an emulator, it's just a compilation of games from that console. Edit: sorry if I'm acting rude, it's just you're so oblivious it annoys me. And why are you on an iPHone gaming website if you hate touch controls?
Seems like noone complained about rebuying old games when Doom Classic came out. How many copies do I own? 1) PC 2) 32x 3) SNES 4) GBA x2 (multiplayer!) So far I've resisted the iPhone version since I'm not a huge fan of virtual dpads, but who knows... I've "repurchased" several old games (Commodore 64, I'm looking at you!) for my iPod Touch because I like having them with me all the time.
I'm "oblivious" simply because I've never used a certain app? I never said I hated touch controls, I just said they take time to get used to when you're using games designed for classic controls. And I still don't see how you can possibly justify having to buy games you already own just to use them on a Genesis emulator. You agree that having to re-purchase music to load it onto your iPhone would be absurd, yet this is really no different. Edit: Doom Classic is a port of the engine optimized to run on the iPhone, i.e. not just a copy-paste of the PC version code, so it's a new product in its own right. If they're going to try re-selling me WADs I already have though, then they're in the same boat.
A little off-topic but the controls in Doom work extremely well, should definitely at least try it (I like using the Goldeneye wad with it also ). When I called you oblivious I wasn't reffering to the C64 thing. And I'm not sure if I really understand correctly, mind explaining what exactly it is you don't like about all this?
So you're saying you should be allowed to copy the games you bought and use them? Yeah that's actually not a good idea, the laws regarding game copies are state they must be used strictly for backup purposes should the original fail. If you're gonna actively use both copies then you're treading on thin ice and I'm not surprised SEGA don't want you to do it.
Format-shifting for personal use is covered by fair use. It's no different to ripping a CD to MP3 so you can load it onto your PC and iPod. If you're making a copy in the same format (e.g. using your rip to burn a copy of the CD you ripped it from), then it must be for backup purposes only. Why shouldn't you be able to, if you already have the files? It's still an emulator, the games themselves aren't modified in any way to run on the iPhone.
ROMS, save-states, disk/tape images, what's the difference? I have a ton of C64 games that I bought. I could transfer things to a PC format for use in an emulator (such as Frodo.) I have no problem paying for the Commodore 64 app or "game packs" (their term) The laws regarding media transfer are rather gray in many cases, but it seems silly to argue about them here. Buy the games you want - don't buy the games you don't want. Problem solved. I think I've had too much coffee...
Depends what it's licensed for, which is why you can buy software for a single PC or buy a license for use on multiple PCs. Licenses vary across all media and in all countries. What you're arguing is basically the same as me saying I've bought a game on 360 and should be entitled to a free copy of the PC and PS3 versions.
Grr, I didn't want to continue posting in here but... If you know how to copy Sonic 2 to your iPhone, then you are probably welcome to do it. Maybe you could consider the cost a "convenience fee"? (i.e. personal use - did you format shift the data, or did you download that rom file from someone else? ) And before somebody asks, yes I have wired up a 1541 drive to a PC to transfer disc images before, and no, I have not tried moving them to my iPod Touch as it is not jailbroken...
No, you shut up. You have nothing remotely approaching a point, yet have the nerve to suggest that I'm the "idiot" here? Not so. It's more like saying that if someone in the distant future wrote a 360 emulator for PC which could run unmodified Xbox 360 games, I should be able to run my existing 360 games on there without having to buy them again. If the software license requires me to have an Xbox in order to legally play the games (I'm not familiar with Xbox software licenses), that should not prevent me from playing them on the emulator, as long as I've purchased an Xbox beforehand. Also, the fact that Xbox games can't run on the PC or PS3 shows that all three versions are actually quite different, because they're optimized for that particular platform. It's not a case where you can take the data files from one version and expect it to work on another platform. I daresay you could, and that's fine. Not everyone has access to a computer at all times, and a daresay a couple of bucks is definitely worth the convenience at times. What's not fine is not allowing those who are prepared to copy it manually the option to do so. If the downloaded file is byte-for-byte identical to the rip, then what is the difference between them? The data is the same, and it would be absurd to say that out of two people who possess exactly the same data and have bought exactly the same rights, possession is legal for one, but not for the other. If it matters, I did all my PS1 rips myself. Genesis/NES/SNES rips I probably did get off some FTP way back in 2000-ish. Was it technically legal? I don't know. Was it in the spirit of the law? Definitely. Was it morally wrong, compared to ripping them myself? No. For the record, I have no problem paying for the C64 emulator and gamepacks, simply because I never owned a C64.
Dude, you just don't understand AT ALL how this works, wait for the app to come aout and you shall see, it has nothing to do with ROMs or anything like that, trust me dude, yopur just spouting idiocy right now. If it matters to you so much just jailbreak your damn iPhone and get the Genesis emulator from Cydia, you can stick your ROMs in there and be all happy-jolly.
