SCAM - Getting Out OF BUSINESS, Selling All Rights ( 200 Apps )

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  1. TheBunny

    TheBunny Well-Known Member

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    #1 TheBunny, Mar 3, 2012
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    Since the original thread seems to have disappeared(?)
    I am restarting my own follow up thread.

    Original thread screen shot:

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    BTW before anyone says anything I paid with credit card and in the US
    that give me no risk, So I can get my money back... but really thats not the
    point at this stage.

    --- Email Chain ---

    Perfect! I will get everything ready now

    After 72hrs (when paypal clears the payment)

    I will send you everything

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan
    CEO/Founder
    Future Apps Are Now Here
    www.MateenAppstore.com

    ---

    ( on paypal )

    They haven't they have limited my account, and have postponed it I cant receive or do anything with my paypal, they have literally froze my account , im really sorry about the wait

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    well when they limit they literally freeze everything

    i have called them today , and they are asking for some info for me to clear things up

    will let u posted

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    Can you take the money out, and send to my new one? [email protected]

    Its giving me a huge issue and whenever I fix a problem , a new one opens .... This way you can have your things faster,

    Let me know

    I'm very very sorry , paypal is a pain in the ass

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

    ---

    I know it's a problem on my side, and I'm very sorry but don't you worry , I will include something for all the wait youv done.

    I'm trying to resolve the issue

    Thank you for your patience

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    can you cancel the payment?

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    no i created a completley new one

    [email protected]

    ok perfect i will include some extra templates because of all this wait ;)

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    ( 3 weeks later second payment delivered by paypal )
    ( Actual Scamming starts here ) :)

    went fine and everything is ready to be uploaded but im sorry , the upload fee for everything and costs of upload is high im not sure if you still want to go through with this

    there is over 30gb total of uploading to do

    the price for uploading and sending everything to you will cost $500

    this is because we need to open a secure server, upload all of it and keep it there and you download from it

    which all costs money and we cant afford to loose

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan
    CEO/Founder

    ---
    ( Lets have the itunes account log in first? )

    it is all in one , i cant just give you the logins because i had created a zip with all links to it and there are procedures to take when converting the itunes apps to your own name (name change, tax, bank info) etc

    so its all in this massive zip

    you will recieve:

    - account info
    - tutorial
    - all source codes
    - all website info
    - mobile me account
    - and much more


    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

    ---

    please send the $500 to [email protected]

    (another paypal connected to upload buddy)

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    like i said it is all linked no can do , the fee for uploads is when my internet taking up gb upload which every gb i get charged for

    does not matter if it is my server or yours

    if youd like to cancel this transaction please let me know we can do that and i can sell all rights to someone else like i said i need this off my hands asap

    Sincerely,
    Mateen Pekan

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    chris i understand that you are upset

    please just open a paypal dispute and you will recieve your $1000 and you will have full refund

    i am very sorry

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    So after doing some more research Mateen seems to be a kid about 14-15 years old.
    He started coding and scamming on the game salad forums back in 2010.

    also see http://www.apps4ottawa.ca/en/apps/9

    "Reza Pekan
    I am a 13 year old iPhone, iPod , iPad developer in Ottawa (just letting everyone know)"

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    In conclusion this is my fun adventure for the last few weeks :)
    Take it as a warning

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    Whois info for the scammers, has names, addresses, phone number.

    Address look up

    R Pekan ( Reza Pekan )
    (613) 521-5963
    2871 Otterson Dr
    Ottawa, ON K1V 7A9

    Registrant:
    Home
    2871 Otterson Dr
    Ottawa, Ontario K1V7A9
    Canada

    Registered through: Go Daddy
    Domain Name: MATEENAPPSTORE.COM
    Created on: 17-Aug-10
    Expires on: 17-Aug-12
    Last Updated on: 30-Jun-11

    Administrative Contact:
    Pekan, Reza [email protected]
    Home
    2871 Otterson Dr
    Ottawa, Ontario K1V7A9
    Canada
    6135215963 Fax --

    Technical Contact:
    Pekan, Reza [email protected]
    Home
    2871 Otterson Dr
    Ottawa, Ontario K1V7A9
    Canada
    6135215963 Fax --

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS31.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS32.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
     
  2. dhondon

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    Thanks for the warning and the entertainment:)

    I remember him from the GameSalad forum. Think he's been banned more than once over there.

    Just curious; why would you be interested in something like this? All his stuff is crap.
     
  3. TheBunny

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    Well I need to look at all the long term sales data, and then see what does sell and what might be worth salvaging and or how long it would take.
    It was a cheap no risk investment to get at that junk sales data for 200 apps
    over 2 years. :)
     
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  6. TheBunny

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    Hmm that does not look like what I was talking about at all.
    That looks like chart positions and ranks.
    I would want sorting like actual sales data per month or even estimates
    for things way off the charts.

    BTW I use flurry and I use App Viz 2 for simular sales data.
     
  7. TheBunny

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    I wonder what got you into buying this in the first place? Yuo're obviously not a new member of TA - you must have seen what Mateen has been trying to pull out here several times :D
    Anyway, I hope you got your money back. Can't say I'm surprised seeing Mateen involved -_-
     
  9. mr.Ugly

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    its ranks and sales, actual & estimated across the board, not just junk no one should really care about.. but if you are willing to send money to an more than obvious scammer, you might be interested to invest a little more for really usefull data.
     
  10. tclim

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    Hi TheBunny,

    After reading all your long message here. I myself have the same situation as describe in your email. Look like this scammer using the same trick. I am currently waiting for Paypal to take action. I really hope that I am the last victim in this case.
     
  11. TheBunny

    TheBunny Well-Known Member

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    #11 TheBunny, Mar 4, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2012
    If you have any problems with paypal you hopefully paid with a credit card.
    You can then contest the payment through the credit card instead.

    Oh can you drop me an email at [email protected]

    I want to start collecting and documenting everyone thats been scammed.
     
  12. Once

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    If this fraudster spends all his Paypal money in one go, there is NO way Paypal is going to give you back your money, even if Paypal claims that payments are insured!

    I have been through it a few times, and Paypal simply won't budge. If the other end has no funds available, you are not going to get anything back.

    On the other hand, the credit card companies and banks are very helpful, and usually will refund your money after 30 days if you present good documentation of teh case.
     
  13. TheBunny

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    Link me the page that shows this?
    Im not seeing that on there web site.

    Best I have seen so far were like mobclix and its on and off chart position estimates.
     
  14. mr.Ugly

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    i already gave you a link..
     
  15. TheBunny

    TheBunny Well-Known Member

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    Sigh... I would not have asked if you sent me a link or a direct link
    that actually shows estimates of sales over time and not just ranks.

    I did look over the site why do you think Im asking?
     
  16. mr.Ugly

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    again.. you did not look.. maybe read the text next time.. i pointed you exactly to the page from app annies service for sales estimates, which are based on their numbers they track with their free service they offer devs.

    http://www.appannie.com/products/intelligence/

    apparently spoon feeding is "in" nowerdays..
     
  17. TheBunny

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    Yes because that web page is basically crap, no examples of anything and crappy bullet point list.

    The only thing I see that might be related is a sales pitch with no pricing.

    "Our market estimates for app sales, revenues and downloads have the highest accuracy and data quality available in the industry. This is in large part due to our unique methodology. If you don’t believe us, we’d love to tell you how and why."

    Anyhow thanks for suggesting the company I will sign up and take a look.

    Any idea on the actually pricing for "Intelligence" service?

    .... oh never mind found it...

    "App Annie Intelligence is sold on a 12-month subscription basis starting at $15,000 USD per year.
    App Annie Analytics users are eligible to receive a 20% discount on the subscription price."

    Yeah thats way out of my price range and honestly a lot more then the $1000 for some junk apps ;)
     
  18. mr.Ugly

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    well if you are willing to pay 1k for data on 200x junk.. i thought this might be more interesting since this is data on.. well.. everything

    and i now the attention span of the average ios games is very low.. but i would have expected a bit more from a fellow developer.. at least read, comprehend and click on a button for an inquiry ...

    as i see they raised the price a bit (+3k) .. again one needs to put that into perspective.. on one side shovelware with no value whatsoever behind it and if it was about numbers you can get the grand picture on the other side..

    next to flurry, appannie is the biggest metrics collector out there.. only apple knows the total numbers better ;)

    anyway i warned you before in the other thread.

    good luck getting your money back, hiring a lawyer and prosecuting this fellow.. let us now how it turns out.

    i'm still baffled how easy an teenager can scam alot of people.. go figure.
     
  19. I would like to share my experience with Paypal. I purchased a website header from an online website, and although it only cost $15 the premise may be the same. Needless to say, the seller failed to deliver anything and I was scammed for $15. Here was the response from Paypal:

    As you can see, Paypal will not protect the buyer when the goods are virtual or not shipped with a courier. Since I was not able to provide proof that I did not receive my goods (i.e. in the form of package tracking) then I was out my money. I even gave full consent for Paypal to request the website header be emailed to them to confirm. They would not take it any further.

    I truly hope this scenario will not apply in your situation. I think what may save you is that you payed with your credit card. They at least try to protect their buyers and close scam loopholes unlike Paypal.

    I did read that previous post and I remember it being very suspicious at the time. I do wish you all the best with this though.
     
  20. lolzappan

    lolzappan Well-Known Member

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    Paypal will not but maybe the credit card company will? With a credit card you have another layer of defense possibly?

    My recommendation is to report him to Apple with whatever evidence you may have collected and let them deal with it, you might not get your money back but there is justice in knowing that he's been dealt with. Alternatively if you have the evidence on hand expose him not just on toucharcade but other popular apprelated sites.
     

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