Universal Puzzle & Dragons (by GungHo O. E. Inc.)

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  1. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    #1121 jyf1986822, Nov 29, 2012
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    Your are so stubborn my friend. Do you have skype, viber or something like that? PM me!! Let's discuss by phone!!!!

    but I will explain it again roughly. For a zombie team, it's attack is not too high! since we dont have both leader and helper to double or triple the allies attack! Hence, sometimes, we can't clear all the enemies at one times! But for zombie team, if you can guarantee no more than 1 enemies attack in one turn. Congratulation, you will pass the dungeon easily, even the master level!! To form a zombie team, you may not have both viper orochi and amaterasu, since it's too difficult! but if you have one of them, the zombie team become easier! Take your monster for example. You have orochi already, the leader skill of orochi is to prevent you die from a hit when your hp is more than 1/2.


    OK, you don't need to see all I said above!!
    I catch the point!!

    The skill "Perseverance" is prevent you die from a hit when your hp is more than 1/2

    The skill "resolve" is prevent you die from a hit when your hp is more than 70%


    This is not revealed by the game, but it is what I said indeed!!
     
  2. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    the crystal in my picture is a monster which will be opened in version 4.3. it is a production of collaboration with final fantasy- crystal defense (which is published by SQUARE ENIX). The monster is max out when you get it and the stat of it is 300/300/300. but the boost skill of it is terrible, it's the same with Vitria the one @tonyb has. It can generate 10000 damage when 100% HP, 20000 damage when 50% and 100000 damage when HP=1. Hence, this one fits the zombie team perfectly. I'm not sure whether the monster will be opened in US version. You can ask Gungho for further information.
     
  3. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    #1123 tonyb500, Nov 29, 2012
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    I don't even know what Skype is, to be honest. And for some reason I think I'm going to feel like an idiot for not knowing.

    I've never had a problem with healing my HP by over halfway, especially with Alraune (yes, I know Amaterasu's better, but for now, Alraune is my only option). And I think I get it now. The reason a zombie team with Viper Orochi is better with low HP is because Viper Orochi's leader skill is easier to use when you have a lower amount of HP.

    However, that doesn't work unless you're facing ine tough enemy per battlle. It's not always effective. For example, in the Wednesday mask dungeon, let's say you're about to be attacked by the three Divine Masks in the fourth battle all at once. From what I've seen, they do 9,999 damage per hit unless you have Odin as your leader or helper. If they all hit you at once, neither Viper Orochi nor Amaterasu can save you at that point. Plus they have high defense, so it's slightly difficult to wittle down their HP. in that situation, I was glad that I brought along one specific monster: Lillith. I used her Poison skill, moved an orb one space just to let a turn pass, and Lillith's poison depleted the health of all three masks in one turn.

    So in other words, while a zombie team can prove to be effective against single enemies, against multiple eneimies, especially multiple Strong enemies, things can go very wrong very easily and very fast.

    Also, I think a zombie team can work even with higher HP. This is because I use zombie team stradegies with my HP between 4,000 and 9,000 all the time, and they've never come back to bite me in the butt. Currently, mepy team consists of Alraune as my leader, then Darkdragon Vritra, Basilisk (who I plan to evolve once I get a second Keeper pf Dark), Lillith, and a Keeper of Dark in my four team slots.
     
  4. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    So Vritra can be a good fit in a zombie team?
     
  5. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    Finally, I got this video. Look at this video and see how the zombie team works. And I think all the questions can be solved!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcRJUNfDCU4
     
  6. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    this is for you @tobiasdu, how a 6.25x dragon team works!! The team should not have the third attribution except dark and grass or a healer(usually naga). The team is more powerful due to the more dragon knights it has

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ptZ7xsMV80
     
  7. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    #1127 tonyb500, Nov 29, 2012
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    Alright, now I understand it. Now that is a brilliant stragedy indeed.

    However, like I said, it's dependant on having a monster with Resolve or Perseverance as your leader/helper, and a healer on the other end. Also, like I said, if two monsters happen to attack at the same time, then the only way to save yourself is by using a magic stone to continue.

    Nonetheless, I dream very, very big. I'm hoping to eventually get my stamina and my ranking that high in the future. Though I'm notmentirely sure how to amass over 32,000,000 in gold

    I also plan to try flr Amaterasu again. However, I am going to wait until tomorrow to do so, that way I don't end up pulling on fire monsters, although I did get a Phoenix Knight Homura.
     
  8. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    continue to this question!! As a zombie team, you can't die except the first round. OK, you have 4 attacker in you team. Then

    Step 1: clear enemies and just leave one

    Step 2: clear the orbs which can not generate damage till all four attackers' boost ability ready

    Step 3 : clear the last enemies and go to next round

    Step 4: a. if there are no monsters attack in one turn, boost your skill and repeat step 1.

    b. if there are more than one monsters attack in one turn, circle one of the enemies who will attack at the same time, than boost the attacker's skill till there is no more monsters can attack in one turn. Then repeat step 1.

    Yeap, zombie team afraid that two monsters happen to attack at the same time, but only at the first round!!!!! All you can do is just pray you will not meet that.
     
  9. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    #1129 tonyb500, Nov 29, 2012
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    The first round? I've had high leveled enemies attack me at the same time in the first, secod, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh eighth, ninth, and tenth round (in other words, at least once in every round) at least pnce in my time playing this game.

    Either way, I am very grteful for this advice and will keep it in mind if I ever get an Amaterasu.
     
  10. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    By the way, I thought the fully evolved versions of the stuffed animal-like monsters weren't available at the Rare Egg machine? At least, according to the Japanese website I don't think it said they were, but I just got a Flare Drall from the machine.

    Either way, now I have a Flare Drall. As a pediophobic with special needs, I'm not sure if I want to jump for joy or poop my pants.
     
  11. coRex

    coRex Well-Known Member

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    holy shit!!! :D

    this team is soooooo fast :D
    i wonder if i get such a strong farm team in the future :D
     
  12. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I dont know what's your meaning of "stuffed animal-like monsters", “pediophobic”?
     
  13. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    hey my friend!! I didn't ask you to pass all the dungeons by zombie team. Zombie team is a way that we used for some special dungeons which we can not pass normally. Brute force is our final target!!

    4x single team, 6.25x dragon team, 9x Zeus team, 18x team and 27x team is the final goal we are seeking for.
     
  14. vinlou

    vinlou Active Member

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    Anybody having issues with the iap. Seems it wont let me buy any stones, keeps saying please contact apple support.
     
  15. Back 5

    Back 5 Well-Known Member

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    email iTunes support and the issue will be resolved very quickly.
     
  16. coRex

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    #1136 coRex, Nov 29, 2012
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    are there any tipps for the last fight of satans castle?

    i went in with titan and alraune, and every fight before was easy, but those 3 guys hit at the same time and so titan has no use and the problem was, they hit me for about 6 k or something like this...

    maybe i can do them with an odin (for titan) but i dont have a odin and i also have no real healer like alraune...
     
  17. Slottm

    Slottm Active Member

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    coRex - I took a dark dragon knight in there, with a siren the enchantress. This reduced their damage output by 30% while giving me good amounts of healing. You can also try to use keepers (keeper of light/dark etc) for their 50% damage reduction for 3 turns. Once you have 1-2 of the little guys dead, it's just a battle of attrition to kill the big guy.

    Tonyb - the zombie strategy is used for dungeons where the monsters hit ridiculously hard - it's not for "every" battle. I'll use your dungeon of expert mask as an example - The masks have a slow rate of attack (for the easier masks that hit for 2500ish, they attack every 7-9 turns at the start) while divine masks will attack on the 4th, 5th or 6th turns. On the first stage of the dungeon, you're supposed to match orbs that do not cause attacks so that your team will charge up their skills and abilities.

    Using my team as an example, I went with:
    Armor ogre, Dragon Knight, Naga and the last 2 were dependant on what friends were available:
    With a lilith available, I took im a Dark Dragon Knight
    With a siren the enchantress, I took in a keeper of water

    So the premise of the first stage is just to waste time so that your orb change skills come up, naga skill comes up, damage reduction skill comes up....get rid of all the orbs you don't need and have a plethora of orbs you need sitting around (for me, this would be several green/black or green/blue depending on my team, while trying to reduce the total amount of red, light or health orbs down) Now lets say you wasted 20 turns, you're at full health - kill the mask in the first stage.

    You're now at the 2nd stage of the mask dungeon, same applies - kill whatever attacks on the same turn and continue, if you used any skills, leave 1 monster up and charge your skills and get your orbs back to the colors you need.

    Let's skip to the 4th round of the dungeon, let's say its 3 divine masks(which it is) Let's assume 1 attacks on the 4th turn and 2 attack on the 5th turn. At this point, identify what the problem is - it's the fact that 2 monsters attack on the 5th turn. Ignore the 4 turn mask and choose one of the 5 round masks and begin attacking it (use 5 orbs if possible for AoE attack). As long as you were able to kill one of the masks that attacked in 5 turns, your new goal is simply to be able to heal back up to half or 70% in between the turns in which the 2 remaining masks are alive (lets say the 2 masks are now at 1 turn and 2 turns to attack you) 1 hits you, you go to 1 hp, now you need to heal to half or 70% before the next hits you in 1 turn (or use naga skill for super easy fight)

    A zombie team is not meant to be the most damaging team! Your Priorities are as follows:
    1) Identify if any monsters are attacking in the same turn as each other. If so eliminate one.
    2) Make sure you can heal back to half or 70% in the period between getting hit and the monsters second attack
    3) If you're left with 1 monster left, get your orbs ready for the next round by eliminating or reducing all of the colors of orbs that you do not need, and charge all of your skills up so that they can be used freely in the next round.
    When these conditions are met, proceed to the next round, and follow the same check list.

    As long as 2 monsters aren't attacking in the same turn, and you can heal to at least 50%/70% depending on your leader, you are unkillable, and it just becomes a matter of how long the fight is, with no risk of losing. While lilith is a very easy strategy, using siren the enchantress as my 5th for the mask dungeon was just as easy, it just required a slightly different approach.
     
  18. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    I see. Use dark as the second attribute is because the Chaos Dragon Knight is a dragon type and also a orb-changer, is that right?

    But I still wonder how does that team handle a hard Fire dungeon. Maybe put more Chaos Dragon Knight to replace ADK? If so, then 6.25x team's requirement is really high...
     
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    Community Coordinator
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    1.5x Drops in the Fire Forest Nerva, 2x Coins in the Volcano of Vulcan, 1/2 Stamina in the Dungeon of Fire?

    Looks like Japan has turned the AWESOME back on ;)
     
  20. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    Awesome news!!! It's so great to have one from the company in this thread, so that our voice can be heard.
     

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