Universal Puzzle & Dragons (by GungHo O. E. Inc.)

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  1. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    U must recover you 1/2HP of your zombie team before next monsters attack. sometimes, enemies attack every turn. You must have some strong attackers which may increase the whole team HP. Hence, the viper orochi must stay low hp to keep the whole team hp in a lower level. So that, the leader skill of amaterasu, archangel, siren the enchanter or alraune can have a chance to recover at least 1/2 hp. Can you understand my mean?

    PS: the leader skill of archangel, siren and alraune can only recover 2000+ every turn at most!!
     
  2. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    They will regret when they play further... 6.25 dragon team is definitely a good team, but I dont like.
    Norse god is much more powerful than ADK. I think they are glad to pull a ADK since one of the group leader use that.... However, 6.25 dragon team is more powerful at the beginning stage.
    oh, forgot, in version4.3, the dark dragon team will rise. There is a new dark monster possess 2.5x dragon atk leader skill.
     
  3. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    There's this wikia page
    http://puzzle-dragons-global.wikia.com/wiki/Puzzle_%26_Dragons_Global_Wiki
    But it's basically empty.

    I want to contribute but I can't figure out how to edit it. I suck at computers and don't have that much time...
     
  4. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    Bahamut, right? But I don't know if we can get in US game since it's in the FF collaboration dungeon... I'm sure there are huge amounts of FF fans in US, so please GungHo, please bring this dungeon to the US version!
     
  5. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but can't I just evolve Viper Orochi and then keep the evolved Viper Orochi at low HP? It makes a lot more sense.

    Also, Alraune's recovered a little over 2,700 HP at the most duringone a few battles. And how low do you consider low HP to be?
     
  6. Niakins

    Niakins Well-Known Member

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    Ha! I was using a water mech warrior midguard when I fought Ifrit today... Right as I was getting all settled in for 5 or more minute long fight... boom counterattack for 51,000. From half health to dead. Whoop.

    Side note... Farming eggs is a pain in the butt
     
  7. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    I means recover hp every turn!!! Alraune can't!!!!! you mean alraune's boost skill can recover 2700, but we need alraune recover every turn!!
    look at the evolve viper orochi's hp, it's so high!!!!
    If you still can't understand, i will post a picture that is a zombie team passed Hera dungeon without any stones to revive! look at his total hp!!!
     

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  8. jyf1986822

    jyf1986822 Well-Known Member

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    yeap! it's bahamut which also can multiple 2.5 atk on dragon allies!!!
    For now!! I must clear here that 6.25 dragon team is only for wood combined with dark(4.21) or dark only(4.3)!!
     
  9. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    #1109 tonyb500, Nov 29, 2012
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    Alright, I think I understand now. But here's my issue with a zombie team. Because of it's low HP, it's pretty easy for many enemies to kill that team in one hit. For example, one hit from one of the Divine Masks in the Wednesday dungeon would take that team out in one hit. There aren't a lot of monsters with low HP that have attack that's really high, and I just think a zombie team still has it's weaknesses.

    And as a leader, Alraune does recover every turn. I use a healing stradegy, but based on my P on average being 4000 to 9000, I donmt think my team is a zombie team, yet I don't have too much trouble clearing dungeons. Just cleared the Wednesday dungeon several times, and I've cleared the legendary dragonndungeons several times on expert level.

    Plus my stradegy of taking out the blizzard dragon, Niflheim, was quite good, and didn't let me down.

    By the way, are those crystals only availbale in the Japanese version at the moment? What are their stats, and how did you get them?
     
  10. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    That's the whole point for having a zombie team: to survive after one hit kill.

    It's just for specific dungeons. No one would use it on normal dungeons. Think about it, how would you handle a monster that attacks 16,000, every turn? While, a zombie team can.
     
  11. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    I see your point, but here's the thing. A zombie team can't unless you have a Viper Orochi as your leader or helper, and for a zombie team to be effective you also need a healer as your leader or helper. So what happens if there isn't a helper with a Viper Orochi available?
     
  12. vinlou

    vinlou Active Member

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    whats that rainbow feather monster? lol
     
  13. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    Well, everyone can have at least 50 friend, so it's not that difficult... you already have Orochi, and there are plenty of 5-star healers leaders out there.

    If you don't have Orochi, an Ogre will do. The team will be weaker, but still doable.

    I think right now in JP version, the only dungeon that really require a zombie team is the Hera dungeon. For us US players, we don't have to worry about it now.

    You have posted your monster box before, you have plenty of awesome monsters, so why not leave Orochi be as you don't really need it as a attacker? It will come in very handy in the future.
     
  14. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    Well, wehn would I really need Viper Orochi? And is it really that bad of an idea to evolve him as jyf said?
     
  15. aconfusedkender

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    Ahh!!! A Dragonlance fan maybe hmmm? Sweet thanks Gung (;
     
  16. tobiasdu

    tobiasdu Well-Known Member

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    Yeah...'coz in a zombie team, Viper Orochi is not used for dealing damage. He is there just for his leader skill and skill. So the less HP he has, it gaves more room for the other 5 monsters to become stronger. And this will tremendously speed up the pace to kill the boss when it has hunge HP.

    For example, you have a Ameterasu helper who recovers 3000 HP per turn. So that means the total HP of the zombie team should be less than 6000. Ameterasu will already take up more than 2000 HP there, so you have less than 4000 for your 5 monsters. I don't know for sure but a level 6 Orochi has maybe 600 HP? And a evolved Orochi at level 1 has more than 1000. So that's a 400 HP difference. When it comes to zombie team, every bit of HP counts.

    You can also try your zombie team in the Rainbow Keepre dungeon. But that's a easy one because the boss attack only every 3 turns, gives you plenty of time to recover.
     
  17. tonyb500

    tonyb500 Well-Known Member

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    Either way, it's still dependant on having a Viper Orochi or an Amaterasu as a helper. And how would having less HP speed up the pace to kill a boss with huge amounts of HP? The only thing I'm seeing is that it gives you less HP just for the sake of saying you can completely heal yourself. So what if your team has full HP? It won't matter if you don't have a Viper Orochi and an Amaterasu as a leader/helper combination. It also doesn't matter to me that much for another reason. What's the difference between havign Viper Orochi's effect activate with your HP full or not? Based oit's description, it says there's only a possibility of surviving even if your HP goes to zero, and I don't see how having little HP will change that.

    Sorry, but I still don't see the point of not evolving Viper Orochi, nor do I see how superior a zombie team really is. I just don't see it, I don't get it. Why is having low HP such a big deal?
     
  18. GungHo

    GungHo Well-Known Member

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    From what I can tell, it's pretty easy to add and adjust text - it's making pictures clickable links (and basically linking EVERYTHING) that can get tricky.

    Maybe if you type something up in Word and just throw it up there - other contributors can add pretty formatting and nice pictures - that's what wiki's are all about right ^_^
     
  19. Niakins

    Niakins Well-Known Member

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    I just want to say thank you to you all of you posters because I finally had the balls to try the room of masks. I used the approach talked about here and profit. Lol I did have to spend a stone the first go round but the second time was cake. =D
     
  20. torin

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    #1120 torin, Nov 29, 2012
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    Here's an example
    Lets say a boss does 12k damage per turn. Amaterasu heals for 3k per turn.

    party total hp - 7k
    turn 1 boss hits for 12k. you are left with 1hp.
    turn 2 amaterasu heals you for 3k(3k/7k). boss hits you for 12k and you are dead.

    party total hp - 5k
    turn 1 boss hits for 12k. you are left with 1hp.
    turn 2 amaterasu heals you for 3k(3k/5k). boss hits you for 12k and you are left with 1hp.

    And the description is wrong. its 100% chance of surviving if your HP goes to zero when you are above 70/50%
     

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