So, what is the chance of recovering from your HP going to 0 with a Titan or an Ogre as your party leader? I have died dozens of times and I have yet to be granted a second chance. Am I doing something wrong or are my chances really just that minuscule? This game is way more brutal than I had anticipated...
Also, does anyone have any tips For earning magic stones? I'm no longer getting any for clearing new dungeons, so the only ones I've been getting for the past several days have been from random messages from an admin or from a log in bonus for playing the game every day. They're waaaay too expensive to buy for the egg machine given the previous disappointments.
Definitely reroll if you have no gods and are only rank 50. You should keep restarting until you get a decent starter god. That's what I did and it really helps. I too have not gotten any gods from the REM since my first day (and I only roll during godfests) but am doing just fine. It's the nature of RNG. You and me are more the outliers though as you should statistically roll numerous gods by now if you are only pulling during godfests. It's just bad luck. I know plenty of people who have midas touch when it comes to the REM (gold eggs like crazy)... and for every one of them... there is one of us. And yeah buying stones is a waste of money for the REM. It makes SOME sense to buy a few for stamina restorations (then it's just like an arcade game in that sense) but even then I am not going to do that. This game is very doable without paying a cent after all Finally... Hades is very doable with the proper team setup. You just need a resolve leader or friend and a good team setup. Based on what you said I imagine you need to do a straight up zombie team but if you post your monster box I'd be happy to help you with that... but I think you should reroll anyway as I stated above so maybe that's not necessary. The Titan/Ogre ability only activates if your HP is above 70% of your total life. It is also important to note it only cares about each hit. Some of the tougher bosses abilities multihit (for example Hera-Is). That means they hit you numerous times in one attack... and resolve only cares about each hit. So if the first hit lowers you below the 70% threshold then the 2nd hit will kill you since resolve wont trigger. Similarly if the first hit would kill you... then resolve will trigger but the second hit will kill you. This is only true of the very specific (and usually high level) dungeons. There is no other way to get magic stones sadly. That's how Gungho makes their money after all. If you have beaten all the regular and technical dungeons though... then chances are you have a pretty good team already and don't need the stones that much. That said based on your monster box I don't see how you could have done that... I'm guessing you mean you can't clear any more dungeons so you can't get more stones... if that's the case then you likely need to re-roll or just need some help with your team lineup. Post your monster box and we can advise. (EDIT: just saw you did this... see my comments at end of post). I feel your pain though. I am a non IAP player... and I have not rolled a god since my first day of playing (with 9+ rolls now). I'm sitting on 25 stones currently waiting for the new Chinese gods however and am hopeful to get something there (then again last time I had 25 stones I blew them all on the Egyptian godfest and got four 3 star eggs and one silver egg) That's the nature of RNG though. Thankfully they do give you some gods via the descended dungeons though. Start building up a team that can take on Hera... then you can move on to Valkyrie, Geomon, Zeus, and maybe even Hera-Is. EDIT: Piph... checking out your monster box from the previous page you should probably reroll as well and go for a better starting REM pull.... check out this thread. http://www.puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=6337 This is one dude's opinion but it's a good starting point. If you do it quick you can do it during the godfest going on right now which will make it a lot easier....
There's not much I can do with Hades besides using chimeras and a healer. I'm actually not a fan of restarting games, but I can see how many would do so. Wasting stones on stamina makes no sense to me. I can wait 20,30 minutes for it to replenish itself. Not that the REM is any better. 3 pulls during this "god" fest, and no gods. I got a Dryad, and the thing that Dryad evolves into. Gung-trolled again.
I typically don't restart games either but with this game relying so much on RNG... it reeeeaaaallly helps to ensure your first roll is atleast good. It's the one time you can control the REM so why not take advantage? I was slightly over rank 50 as well when I started rerolling based on suggestions from others. Never restarting this game again now that I'm invested (rank 110 and at the advance dungeons)... but it does help a bunch to start with a solid leader. Using stones to replenish stamina makes more sense when you get far into the game. Some of the dungeons take 50 stamina (which takes your stamina bar 8 hours and 20 min to refill)... and when your stamina bar is much bigger... you get more bang for your buck (literally in this case since it's $1 to refill your whole bar). As I said... I have not purchased any stones yet... nor do I plan on it... but I can see the sense it doing it for stamina refills when a good special event is up. Regarding your difficulty with Hades... what team have you used to get up to him? I assume you are stuck at King of the Underworld in Tomb of the Saint Deep? You should have a lot more than chimeras and a healer if you made it that far into the game. Assuming I am correct on the level you are stuck at... then you could go in with a resolve/resist team. Find a friend with a 50% dark resist ability... then make your squad this... Leader: Anything with Resolve (leveled up as much as you like) Subs: all your best subs... hopefully this includes a siren and a naga at this point Friend: 50% Dark Resist If your subs aren't good enough to get through the stages without your typical leader... Then you could do this as well... Your usual team that got you up to this level Friend: Anything with Resolve (preferably a high level orochi since his active kicks butt) This should work unless you've really been relying on your friends skills/leader abilities to get you through things. If you have... then the likely answer is you need to level up your team and farm up some good subs (like naga and siren). You could also try a true zombie team (very easy to build) but you'd have a very tough time with the 9th stage so I wouldn't suggest it for this particular level. Again... if you want to post your monster box I'd be happy to give you some precise feedback I hope that helps
Annnnd my current status. I can't make it past the third wave of the second level in that tower. I get totally wiped every time. I also have to say I'm not a big fan of re-rolling over and over again just to stand a proper chance in a game. Again, I must admit, I think I completely misunderstood the point of this game and it's accessibility. I guess I assumed that because it had such a huge audience and it's presentation and core mechanics... I just figured they would have smoothed out things like this a long time ago.
A lot of people (myself included) think it would be a no brainer for Gungho to guarantee the first REM pull at the end of the tutorial is always a god... but they've held firm on it so I guess there must be a reason. Maybe it's as simple as some people might prefer a tougher start and they want to leave the option open. Or maybe they think that would make it too easy for people to re-roll for the exact starting god they want (which would lead to a lot less community variance which is not ideal).... I don't know. Still... speaking from experience... rerolling was not that painful.... but it is not necessary by any means. You can make it through this game without doing it and still have a good time. Assuming no re-roll... Then you should be going mono-red for now. Set salamander as your main... then work on evolving all your red dudes. Focus on salamander and the knight first. Once you get a bit farther start trying to farm up a naga. She will help you a great deal. Then roll in the next godfest with whatever stones you saved up and hope for something good :- )
So, my strategy so far has been to focus on making a team for each type of dungeon so as to exploit their weaknesses... But you think it's be better just to throw that out and focus in beefing up my fire dudes? I DO have quite a lot of them.
Also, seeing where I'm at, do you have any idea why I haven't been earning any magic stones? I haven't earned any from clearing normal dungeons for a week now.
What do you mean by "smoothed out"? I think a lot of the things that you don't like are carefully calculated to make them more money.
You only get a stone the 1st time you clear a dungeon. Replaying the levels will not get you stones. If you haven't been getting the stones on your first clear though, then something is wrong with your app and you might need to reinstall (although that is the same is re-rolling and if you want to avoid that you could try contacting Gung-ho customer support). Yes... definitely yes. If you try to make a team for each element it will take you forever since you'll need 5x the experience to move on. It's better to focus on one team (maybe 2... but really 1) since it takes a lot of experience to build a good team in the first place (let alone 5). So with fire you will have a tougher time at each water level so expect some grinding each time you hit one of those unfortunately... EDIT: this is true atleast until you progress further. Once you get to the harder dungeons etc (once you beat hades for the first time... he's a boss at King of the Underworld in Tomb of the Saint Deep) you'll need to start making a couple different squads. Early on though you need to focus on one squad so you can get stones, open up farming locations, and be able to handle some of the special dungeons that pop up in events. Yeah... this game is a very efficient money printing machine for them. The whole reason I even heard of this game was a news article about them making 118 MILLION dollars on this game in April alone. Think about that... They're on pace for over 1.4 billion a year at that pace... I'm glad I picked it up as it is a fun game... but having played it I am amazed at how much people spend on this game. It's really not necessary.
Well, like the idea of having to restart your game a dozen times or more at the beginning just because you didn't get a monster that's up to snuff. Feeling like you're stuck on a tower, and how difficult it can be to try and get a better monster when you're stuck on the same dungeon floor... I don't know, it just seems like this game asks you to struggle AGAINST it's systems and mechanics rather than WITH. I am a player who wants to enjoy ther game and wants to keep enjoying it, but it feels like they leave so much in the way of that. The game doesn't need to be a cakewalk, but most of the advice I've been given here feels like I'm trying to work the system rather than just play.
Exactly. Those are all examples of things built into the game because they help to manipulate the player psychology toward spending more money on the game. That's exactly the point. They aren't going to change these things because you dislike them. Because their goal isn't for you to like the game, their goal is for the game to make money.
To be fair the only bit of advice for working the system is the re-rolling advice. If you just ignore that and keep playing though you'll be fine. There will be some hurdles sure but that's the nature of these style games anyway. Just do what I said yesterday and have fun with it. If it becomes too much of a chore... move on to the next game I guess :- ) Here's the stuff from yesterday.
Well, it's poorly designed, then. I have played plenty of F2P and have found myself wanting to pay money, either to ease the experience or to jump ahead. But this game doesn't encourage that, certainly not with how muh they charge for A gem. I think it shows, too, when most of the advice I hear online is, "What? Don't do that, just keep restarting." Also, I feel like I've been pretty reasonable about my complaints in the game, so I'd appreciate it if you stopped patronizing me. If you REALLY think the issues I'm talking about encourage you to spend money, then I'd love to hear how you think buying gems would solve those issues. And even if it WOULD eventually solve it, if there's a decent chance you have to spend $5 just for ONE chance to get a good monster, I think it's fair to say that's a pretty poor payment strategy, especially given the other strategies used out there in other Free to Play games.
