iPad POLL: Is Fastlane TOO hard? Yes or No?

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by wastedyuthe, Nov 15, 2008.

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Fastlane Street Racing- too hard?

  1. YES

    78.1%
  2. NO

    21.9%
  1. Simple. A lot of you have read my review (my blog link is in my signature) and am aware of my feelings towards this games difficulty level, and how I think it is TOO hard. Others agree. Yet there are some people who like the challenge.
    I am sure most of us agree A4 and RT were too easy, but this game is completely the opposite.
    So to put this to bed, I would like to put it to a vote. Is this game too hard, yes or no?
    PLEASE also post to say how far you have got, and how many routes you have won a star for (come 1st place in). There's no point in saying you like the difficulty if you haven't even unlocked the harder routes yet.
    I have reached the Industrial route (No.5) and cannot pass it. I have also managed to win the star for the first track only.
     
  2. Everydaynormalguy

    Everydaynormalguy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, this game seems rather difficult. I've only unlocked two tracks and have never finished above 3rd place. I've only played it for a little while though.
     
  3. Danillson

    Danillson Well-Known Member

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    It is too hard. Especially the start. What about a casual gamer who don't want to learn all the skills to have fun with the game? A casual gamer wants an easy start to have fun.
     
  4. Everydaynormalguy

    Everydaynormalguy Well-Known Member

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    That's why we have titles such as Raging Thunder. Also, mentalities such as urs is the reason why we haven't seen a "real game" in the app store...
     
  5. Danillson

    Danillson Well-Known Member

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    I personally hate Raging Thunder.
    I don't like the graphics and want Fastlane to be easier.
     
  6. NotYou

    NotYou Well-Known Member

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    I love the challenge the game offers a lot, but I still voted that it's too difficult. There is no difficulty curve. It goes from hard to nearly impossible within three tracks.

    I'm glad it's hard. I love trying to perfect my drifts and so on, but sometimes it's ridiculous. The third track has turns that if you mess up at all you lose what seems like tens seconds off your time. If you hit the white area you slide like you're on ice, hit the wall, completely stop for a second or two, then accelerate at a crawl until you make it to the track like five seconds later. :mad:

    Hitting a wall would make you slow down and makes the game hard, which is good. Hitting that white area makes you want to beat your iPhone against the wall repeatedly, which is bad.

    Things like that are what makes it unreasonably difficult. Everything else is great, but turns like that need to be kept for later levels. Putting that in track #3 is ridiculous.

    Don't get me wrong, I really love this game. I still think it's great and completely worth buying. It has amazing replay value. They just need to fix some things like that. I still play it more than anything right now.:)
     
  7. Gregz0r

    Gregz0r Well-Known Member

    Isn't there another thread about this game already? :D :p
     
  8. your personal robot

    your personal robot Well-Known Member

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    Bought it yesterday and after a couple of minutes playing I unlocked all tracks
    to Crosstown... without any single slide... (still don't know how to exactly) :)

    So, definetly NOT too hard!
     
  9. Carlos-Sz

    Carlos-Sz Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I think so.

    Challenging is nice but the game could support an easy (more arcade) mode for casual players (including those that don't have much free time to play).


    Anyway, it's the first version of the game... Who knows what's coming?! :)
     
  10. #10 wastedyuthe, Nov 15, 2008
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2008
    Somehow I don't believe you. After a couple of minutes? It takes a couple of minutes to do one route. And you are saying you unlocked 8 tracks in the same time as it takes to go round one? Without sliding/drifting? Impossible. Show a screenshot of the Crosstown info screen without its padlock icon over it then please.

    Thank you to everyone else for your efforts so far.
     
  11. MuniekONY

    MuniekONY New Member

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    Player should have choice. As for my it's far to difficult - I don't have much time to play so I prefer easier games. As for now I regret my money spent on this title... I'm disappointed.
    Sorry for my English :/
     
  12. Oliver

    Oliver Well-Known Member

    I'm going with NotYou. I got no star. I'm 3rd (or 4th) in every race ;).
     
  13. Khayman

    Khayman Well-Known Member

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    to hard

    The way it goes bu me is i buy a game and if it is to hard to learn in the beginning it doesent make it.
    I tryed it for an half hour and then i desided that it is an beutiful game but way to hard for me.
    I dont have the time to sit for long to play a game (mostly i do it on the train from work).
    If i had the time to play alot i would get a xbox, but i only play for half an hour a day so if it is this hard i cant get the time to learn it.
     
  14. Your English is good- I am sure we all know what you mean.

    Thanks again to all who have voted and posted comments. There is a clear winner in the poll so far- the game IS too hard. But I agree that a choice of an easier difficulty should be availabe. This way, the normal difficulty (as it is at the moment) will still be there for those who want the challenge. Slow down the opponents and up the timer limit for the easy mode. Job done.

    Anyone else who has got this game and hasn't voted yet, please do so- but like I said in my op, don't vote 'No' until you have unlocked a couple more tracks and tried winning those.
     
  15. Oliver

    Oliver Well-Known Member

    I must add one thing to the discussion: I don't think that all games have to for "casual" or "easy" players. There was and is a long discussion regarding hardcore gamers vs. casual gamers on the DS and Wii for this point. And if you take a look at older games, even older Mario ones, these were hard. In other jump and runs or shooters you had to learn the whole level to survive. Hard game, but a fun game, if you were able to master it.

    From what I can "interpret" from the tips and tricks page and from what I read from the devs regarding Fastlane and Topple I would say, that the devs aren't casual gamers and also did non intent to create a casual game. That's totally ok. Not every game is for everyone.

    BUT (big but), the game is promoted as a casual game! Take a look at the description in the AppStore: "Fastlane will appeal to players who like Crash Bandikoot Nitro Kart or Cro-Mag-Rally". The description can't be more wrong. It's like giving someone a Formula 1 racer because he likes tricycles.
     
  16. WelshUK

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    I voted YES

    I posted this over at wastedyuthe's website and he referred me here so

    I just cant understand what the reluctance is to put an Easy Mode into the game from the developer

    Surely the more options you have you reach a bigger broader market (the pick up and play players for easy and the more hardcore players for hard)

    You then have a win win situation instead of the one you currently have which is that 75% of players find it too hard (me being one of them) for the game to be truly enjoyable

    The game just becomes frustrating so quickly

    I really hope that as your customers have asked for changes you will implement them

    No-one is knocking your game as a whole its a beautiful looking game but if you could just step up and give us that extra 10% you will have a 100% beautiful looking awesome playing sweet a*se game which should be on every iTouch/iPhone device as standard

    And you cant really compare iTouch/iPhone games to either console or handheld gaming devices as they cater for games by having buttons accessable

    At best you might have a few buttons masked on to the iTouch/iPhone screen but then you are limited to how many before it starts to detract from the game

    Another point is that most people only play these games on buses/trains/toilet so ideally need to have the basic pick up and play facility straight off the bat

    Most people on entering their home will fire up the PS3/XBOX360/Wii on their 120 inch tv (LOL well it seems like after playing on the 3.5 inch screen) to play for a proper session
     
  17. dannys95

    dannys95 Well-Known Member

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    guys if u look at the video that arn put on the home page you'll see u have to brake a bit before a turn.
     
  18. NotYou

    NotYou Well-Known Member

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    I changed my mind, though I don't think I can vote twice. Once I got drifting down, the game is reasonably difficult. The problem isn't that AI is too hard, it's the learning curve. This game really has more replayability than almost any game I've played, especially after you learn how to drift properly.

    Dev, read this:
    I don't think this needs an easy mode. What would make this game easier to learn is a mode that lets you drive around a race track, like the speedway, and practice drifting. Learning how to do it right during a race is frustrating. I think it'd be much, much better with a practice mode.

    I'm more than happy I bought this game. It has the best all around gameplay of about any I've tried. As long as you're not expecting a casual game, this gameplay is amazing.
     
  19. I respect your opinion NotYou, but I would like to know, what would a practice speedway do that a time trial wouldn't do, for practicing drifting? You say learning how to do it right during a race is frustrating- correct. But that's what the Time Trial mode has always been for in any racer- not only to beat the best time, but to also practice getting round the track in the best and fastest way.
    I would also like to know why you think it doesn't need an easy mode, when a few routes down the line nothing but perfection is required. You can practice drifting till the sun comes down, but there will always be times you will bump into the sides a few times and you may as well give up at that point. Like I said before, it's fine if people like this level of difficulty- I haven't got a problem with that. I just don't see the problem in having an easy difficulty level for those of us who would prefer it. See what I mean?
     
  20. NotYou

    NotYou Well-Known Member

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    I honestly never thought about using the time trial mode. I guess that would work, but what I was thinking of was a mode that would be endless. Since the drifting takes a lot of practice, it's gets frustrating having to reload the track and start over every time.

    I definitely agree it gets difficult to fast, but I like the difficulty. If they add an easy mode, I hope they separate it completely from the normal mode. It wouldn't hurt to have an easy mode, I just think having an endless practice track would be more helpful.
     

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