Political Debate Thread

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Lounge' started by DaveMc99, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. AaronAMV

    AaronAMV Well-Known Member

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    Why are you guys
     
  2. Squirt Reynolds

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    Can't argue with that. I voted for Obama and I feel the same way.

    But, just based on the fact that you wrote: "Now abortion, that is just flat out murder, how can you kill something with a beating heart." means you have no credibility as far as i'm concerned. What about all the Conservatives that hunt for sport? It's okay to kill something with a beating heart as long as it's not human? Typical Conservative hypocritical bullshit.
     
  3. freedog

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    I'm happy that we have a black president, I'm not a racist at all. I just don't like his liberal policies. About religion I don't care if Obaba is a muslim or not. Personally I believe in God but if someone else doesn't want to believe no one should force them to in any way. But while I dont care about Obama's religion I do think he is a little naive about who he associates himself with. Liars like Bill Clinton, Rev Wright and this next guy who he campained for in 2006(said to be his cousin)...

     
  4. The Game Reaper

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    This is coming from the person who believes Reagan brought down the Soviet Union and stopped the cold war. :p

    Who would you rather see in power? Mc Cain?
     
  5. Michelangelo

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    I was never a fan of McCain, but Palin would have made a great president
     
  6. DaveMc99

    DaveMc99 Well-Known Member

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  8. AaronAMV

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    I can't tell if he's trolling or not
     
  9. DaveMc99

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  10. Fletch

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    First of all, every president makes promises that they ultimately can't fulfill. How about good ole George HW Bush's infamous ""Read my lips: no new taxes," which he ultimately failed to deliver on. Second of all, Obama only said a soda tax would be "worth exploring," he is not outrightly advocating for it.

    Communism: (noun) A political theory favoring collectivism in a classless society

    Obama's "spread the wealth" theory: Increase taxes for those who are earning more than $250k a year, and redistribute through social programs

    You're right, I have no idea how that is not communism.

    You are correct. Our current system is not working. That is why it needs reform.


    First of all, it would certainly become more difficult for criminals to obtain firearms, as now it is ridiculously easy. Plus, why the hell do you need to carry a f*cking gun around with you? what are you gonna use it for?


    I don't know how, maybe you should ask all your gun toting friends. Or maybe our former mr. president bush, he seemed to sentence enough people to death.

    Ultimately, why can't you just leave it up to the individual couple/woman to decide? It doesn't affect you either way, you have no right to interfere with others personal lives. And besides, since when have you conservative whackjobs ever cared for the well-being of others?

    No one ever suggested negotiating with terrorists. The war in Iraq is obviously not productive, and is just contributing to the national debt you seemed so concerned about when healthcare was the issue.

    Actually, I think it's common knowledge that Rush Limbaugh is a f*cking idiot. That'd be like saying you can't call Obama the president of the united states.

    lmao. Good one. But if by some scary reality you were not joking, tell me, what about her would make her a good president? Her general lack of intellect? Her ignorance in regards to the major political issues of the day? The fact that she can't name a single controversial supreme court case? Or a single political magazine? Please do tell, I am rather curious.
     
  11. yourofl10

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  12. organerito

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    #92 organerito, Oct 18, 2009
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    yeah, it is depressing when Jewish mythology is held an absolute truth.
    A lot of times religion also breeds intolerance.
     
  13. Fletch

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    Oh it definitely breeds intolerance as well. And i totally agree with you about the whole "jewish mythology" thing. No one takes the greek myths seriously anymore...only difference is the bible is more recent...
     
  14. The Game Reaper

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    Seriously?

    Seriously?
     
  15. da shiz wiz 19

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    I have never laughed so hard at anything in my life. This guy is soo deluded lol.
    Palin >mccain? excuse me? that was the best out of that whole ignorant paragraph.

    "spreading the wealth" isnt communism, its socialism. At least thats what I remember. But socialism never works because it devolves into the state of communism. Its too idealistic. Also communism is only bad if the party/person in power is guided by his own motives rather than the good of the people. Actually there are a lot more reasons why communism is bad, but that reason is a biggie.

    Also, is health care isnt working then why are you hammering obama for trying to change it?

    Also I dont know what you are saying by the 9/11 comment. Liberals would try to negotiate? I never heard anything about negotiating from anyone. It was just about who to go to war with. The terrorists? or Iraq? Hmm iraq has Oil, lets attack them and say that they have WMDs. Now thats dramatization, but Iraq didnt have much to do with the terrorists. Even though sadam was a bad person. Terrorists hid, in afghanistan, pakistan, among others, yet we go and die to "liberate" Iraq.

    now about abortion. i recall republicans opposed stem cell research. Or just expanding it anyways. Well many of the stem cells scientists use are embryos about to be trashed. Bet you didnt know that? Hundreds of these embryos are simply thrown away. That is something like abortion. But of course many deny the scientists the "extra embryos" because they think its wrong to "experiment" on them.

    but this is just me ranting, cuz the lack of a foundation conservatives base their arguements on are appalling. Many times they resort to name calling, and calling obama a terrorist/dictator/tyrant/muslim. Of course religion has nothing to do with it, but it has been brought up sooo many times. I beleive one of these times was on TV, in one of Mccain's rallies, a woman said obama is a muslim and that why we should vote for him.
    I find that disgusting....
     
  16. CDubby94

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    Don't let the actions of a few radical, ignorant religious people make you assume things about the rest of us. Also, calling the Bible Jewish mythology is ignorant as well since historians treat is as a historical document since its historical accuracy has been proven true time and time again.
     
  17. starjimstar

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    Non-partisan citation needed.
     
  18. organerito

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    #98 organerito, Oct 21, 2009
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    Sure?? Just find me one piece of evidence that Israel was captive in Egypt. I studied Theology. I have a bachelor's in biblical Greek and I have some Hebrew. The Bible is just nice literature book. Do you really believe that God Himself talked to Moses? That is very naive.

    Religion and Bible have nothing to do with God. They are very different things. If God exists and if He is Love, He is inclusive not exclusive like many religions.
     
  19. le'deuche123

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    Sorry CDubby I have to disagree. SOME "experts" have claimed historical reference in the bible, but most agree that the majority of it's contents are allegorical, and metaphorical falacies. Even the "history" in the book is embellished and inaccurate. I firmly believe the new testement especially is nothing more than refurbished stories gathered from current religions at the time and branded as a new religion. The virgin birth, christmas birthday, three kings etc, can all be attributed to astrological anomalies. Supposedly Jesus is nothing more than a reinterpretation of the egyption god horus. So I do believe it is more accurate to refer to the bible as "myths" than to actually refer to it for any historical accuracy.
     

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