Political Debate Thread

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  1. yourofl10

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  2. le'deuche123

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    I'm trying to stick up for you and your sound political theories. :confused:
     
  3. The Game Reaper

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    #63 The Game Reaper, Oct 16, 2009
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    There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet!
     
  4. Lombardo

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    I like how peple can't accept that our president is ethnically diverse.
     
  5. spiffyone

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    It is a gimmick troll account. Not an elaborately well thought out one, mind you, but one that gets "cheap heat" which in turn generates "cheap lulz".

    I'm guessing it's part of the reason political debate or anything to do with politics is to be avoided around here, and I'm kind of sorry I even posted the "Obama...Nobel Peace Prize Winner??" topic. It wasn't a political topic even, just one expressing surprise at someone who is barely into his first term getting such an award, and I'm sure Dave had nothing but good intentions with this sort of topic...but, y'know...it just devolves too quickly it seems.

    Ah well....
     
  6. arc417

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    you spelled Allah wrong...
     
  7. Booch138

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    #67 Booch138, Oct 17, 2009
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    Allrighty.

    First of all, my issues in politics vary. I am a very open minded person, and very liberal. However, just because I am liberal doesn't mean I am a huge Obama Fanboy or anything.

    The corporations that are dodging more than 50 Billion dollars in Taxes. Why did the whitehouse give up on that? They were so strong in persuing the fact that these criminals are NOT PAYING ALL THIER TAXES. They say that "Ohh this is just unfair tax on our company, that's not fair!" ummm, no, you need to pay your taxes, like myself, and everyone else in this country.

    Afghanistan. I really hope Obama does the right thing. F*ck what McCrystal has to say, I don't agree with him, Biden doesnt agree with him, and Obama should not either. It's fine with getting rid of terrorist threats, I have no problem with that. The Taliban is not big... you do not need an entire f*cking military force to hunt down a relatively small group of people. Just like you wouldn't use a stick of dynomite to get rid of a mouse... Pull our troops out. We are going no where, and there isnt even a clean definition of what "Victory" is.

    Getting rid of don't ask, don't tell. This is just a stupid f*cking policy, and for the fact that we are one of the few countries left that still enforce this BS on OUR gay and lesbian brothers and sisters, is frankly, appauling. But that is of course a result of the rediculous notion that religion enforces great policy. Ill get more on that later. I am glad that Obama wants to end it, and I believe he will. I don't nessisarily like that he didn't allign a plan for when he is getting rid of it, but I believe he will. Put pressure on him though, pressure in US politics is one of the few ways you get sh!t done in this country.

    Gun control. Look, I have nothing against owning a gun. I OWN A GUN. But just because I have one doesn't mean you need to take it the f*ck everywhere... That is just not cool. You arn't proving anything but the fact that you are a p*ssy trying to intimidate people. Why do you need a gun? What situation would arise where people need to have a god damn shootout to solve something? What is this... the old western times? The idea that "If everyone carried guns around... everyone will be safer!". That is the most moronic theory I've ever heard. How does that make everyone safer? Wouldn't people be more safer if there were no guns at all? Like I said, if you want a gun GREAT! You are entitled to that. Just don't take to every god damn political event and fast food joint you can.

    Healthcare... We know where this is going. Fortunately for those of us who are really for a public option, we are getting closer than ever. Yeah the bill that just passed is udder sh*t, but there is plenty to work on. Everyone knows that, and the healthcare industry is f*cking themselves over with all the BS they are putting out (Phony reports of premiums going up... when they are in control of the premiums/ denying a healthy chubby baby healthcare because he "is above the 95th percentile"... yeah not helping your cause). It's about god damn time that we as the industrialized nation we are, gets the healthcare we deserve. Its a right, not a privelage. In a few days, I will be filing for f*cking bankruptcy because to cover me and my wife on my insruance, it costs $856 dollars a month. Who knows how much it will go up when my child gets here. This is just f*cking horrible, and I am not in the least bit the only one with this problem either.

    Now, onto yourofl.

    *ahem*

    You are a complete f*cking moron. And I say that with complete and total sincerity. You are siting MySpace as a legitamate source of any kind of information? Shame on you for being that god damn stupid. Get over your moronic racist fears that somehow he is the god damn anti-christ, born in terrorist kenya (Terrorist in Kenya...? That poor country could benefit from terrorist money trafficing... and that is just sad...). Why is it so god damn hard for you to believe and concede that he is, you know, American and is the president. Do you honestly think that in this system of government that a person NOT born in this country? (never mind the fact that he has proven it already. Just leave fact out of this one) There has already been people like you trying to prove on several occasions that he is not real, and his birth certificate is not real. Of all of these people, I think of Orrelly Tates (or however the f*ck you spell her name). She is a freakin fool. And has been shut down by EVERYONE she trys and fights with. She, just like you, are pandering at nonsense that you simply cannot prove to your advantage. But hey, that hasn't stopped you guys at all has it?

    But go ahead, obviously you exist like the minds of the wonderful Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. (it sucks to keep having to bring their names up, but for the fact that they are just pure idiots... I don't mind)

    You can disagree with his policies, you can dislike the fact that he became president, you can dislike what the f*ck he eats for breakfast in the morning. That doesn't matter. What matters is that he IS president, and you and your GOP fringe lost. Get the f*ck over it, sit down, and STFU.

    Now onto your religious beliefs.

    Why shouldnt women have the right to choose if they want an abortion? just because we are for it, doesn't mean we want to go out and get abortions every 4 weeks. It just means we respect the THE RIGHT to do so. Just because your say "Abortion is bad in the bible. Teh jezuz saidz so." doesn't mean a GOD DAMN thing to the person who has NO faith, or doesn't believe in Christianity. But you f*cks have always had a problem with accepting that.

    I am not trying to be mean to people who believe in Christ. I have nothing against YOU believing that at all. That's great, but unforunately there is no place for that in order to progress as mankind. Fundamentalist christianity is literally halting the progression of mankind. Every event that happens in this world has to either do with the world ending, or Jesus coming back. People thought John F. Kennedy was the Anti-Christ because he got shot in the head, and was "going to be ressurected as the Anti-Christ." It's been how long now? Sorry, I still have a standing house. And as far as I know, Jesus has not taken his "Followers" "yet". We as a country need to look PAST these people. They won't listen to us (as yourofl has clearly pointed out) so move PASS them. A village should not have to change to cater to the villiage idiot. We need to look passed all this bullsh*t and see that just because a centries old book says "Gays can't get married" and "Abortion is bad" doesn't mean that is WHAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. There are great morals in the book. Don't kill people, don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal. But look at people, like the religious right. We are in a war that is basically saying "Your government needs reform. Your god is bad *slaps hands*" in Iraq, and we were killing tons of people there. The god damn insurance industry is killing people at a rate of 48,000 people a year because of lack of insurance, yet the GOP (all overly Fundamentalist Christian) defends them and taking money from them (even a few democrat scumbags are taking some money) so they might as well be killing people. Don't lie... wait... HAHAHAHAHAHA.... don't lie. I'm not even going to go there. Don't cheat? Well... look at the attacks on ACORN. ACORN is in no way a perfect organization. But if your accusations are that they are defrauding the government and should be cut off because of that? Well you have several others that positively DWARF the amount of money in defrauding the government, like Blackwater for instance. Is it because some fake prostition crap someone tried to pull on them so it could get great soundbites on FOX news? What about Wackenhut? They were involed in a REAL child sex slave prostitution ring in Afghanistan. That is just f*cking awful... The "crimes" ACORN have been accused of PALE in comparison. All they want to do is get rid of ACORN because let's face it, they register millions of lower class people who are probably going to vote Democrat. God forbid that were to ever happen. And stealing? When do they not steal? Well... I am not going to get into that one.

    Sorry man, I just can't even begin to "respect" your opinion. When you have open debate on facts, then we can talk.

    /endrant

    P.S. Sorry for horrid grammar and a wall of chatter. I am very drunk. lol
     
  8. Lombardo

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    #68 Lombardo, Oct 17, 2009
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    **** on.
     
  9. Fletch

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    Hell yes.
     
  10. Squirt Reynolds

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  11. yourofl10

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  12. Michelangelo

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    #72 Michelangelo, Oct 17, 2009
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    Dear Booch,
    During his Obama's campaign, he promised many things that look great on paper, but end up failing in the real world. While saying this, he also promised to lower taxes. How can he fund this? For instance, he wants to pass a tax on soda, what the hell is that! Additionally, he literally said he wanted to "spread the wealth." How is that not communism? This brings me to healthcare, it has never worked. Why would it work now when it has greatly contributed to our nation's debt. On gun laws, even if guns were banned, there would be only one group of people (besides our military and police force) who would have guns, and that would be criminals. They would be able to get guns as easy as they could get drugs. Now abortion, that is just flat out murder, how can you kill something with a beating heart. Finally, the war in Iraq, how can you justify 9/11? Liberals would want to "negotiate." Like terrorists would actually listen to it. I have nothing against Obama, he's probably a great man, but you can't call someone like Rush an idiot just because he disagrees with you.
    Sincerely,
    Michael
     
  13. yourofl10

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  14. Squirt Reynolds

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  15. freedog

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    Oh is that the liberal strategy now? To try and make every gun owner look like a cowboy or a hillbilly from the movie Deliverance? FAKE
     
  16. eyemh8

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    as do all presidents I can't remember a single one that did everything they promised. Bush didn't say he would spread the wealth he just flat out did it and told us to deal with it. and a beating heart is life? how can we ever pull the plug on life long comatose? or the cow heart in science class i had beating with batteries? im definitely not left but im glad obama won because he hasn't done much irreversible crap yet hopefully it stays that way.
     
  17. Squirt Reynolds

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    It wasn't directed towards gun owners as much as it was bible-thumpers. But then again, those are two sides to the same coin most of the time.
     
  18. Michelangelo

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    You say Obama hasn't done much, truth is, he hasn't done anything. For example, his first day in office, he said he was going to close gitmo, and guess what, its still running. He also said he was going to pull the troops out if the middle east, guess what, he's sending more to afganistahn. And to top it off, he got a peace prize for what? Giving us hope. What has hope done for us?
     
  19. arc417

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    #79 arc417, Oct 18, 2009
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    Right on Michelangelo! No one wants to be a goddamn canadian with their unconditional free health care, legalized marijuana, on-demand fetus slayings, free right to marry, restricted weaponry or wanton unborn baby slaughtering

    Plus, even though the damn canadians aren't fighting any wars and aren;t being despised by over half the globe, it just means that the Canadians are pussies (with crappy award shows i might add).

    You don't want to be a pussy do you? Do you!?
     
  20. eyemh8

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    umm.... Thank you?
     

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