Universal Pocket Planes by NimbleBit - Join Flight Crew #TouchArcade

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  1. Snakethesniper

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    understood, thank for your answers!
     
  2. Taeles

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    All three sound like a good idea to me. This is a sandbox game so feel free to try any or all of them :) None of them are game breakers and we can't tell you how to play your game yourself :)
     
  3. alphaae

    alphaae New Member

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    quick question for the pros, I'm remember of the touch flight crew but how do I get prizes. As long as I complete 5 items for the quest I get the prize? And when I say we win which is always. Thanks.
     
  4. Taeles

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    -chuckles at london being down for a thunderstorm- My entire operation just got split in two for the next 30 minutes heh.
     
  5. DeathShottz

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    Wow London closing puts me out of commission for half an hour cause I run LA to Moscow. This is great! Not!
     
  6. Taeles

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    Join toucharcade, do 5 deliveries, get prize auto delivered.
     
  7. Taeles

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    Lets get some popcorn and stare at the screen for the next 30 minutes, eh? Good thing there aren't timed deliveries in this game... though to be honest I'm suprised there aren't.
     
  8. Taeles

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    I'd like the ability to divert aircraft to their nearest airport. Example, london shuts down. I have a jet heading from la to new york and then to london. I'd like to hit a button and have that aircraft stop at new york so it dosent get locked down when it arrives in london from a flight i sent it on before london shut down.
     
  9. Pezmage

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    I think any coin savings you would make by taking the shorter trip people each leg of the way would be eaten up by the loss of the 25% bonus on the vast majority of the bitizens that you're transporting, wouldn't it?
     
  10. deadclown

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    Not at all. First, because instead of that 4-5 seat feeder plane, you're moving 10-12 people. Each person above the feeder capacity is incremental profit.

    Second, a bit over half of all passengers end up getting the 25% bonus. Here's how it works, using Seq's and example numbers:

    In NYC:
    - Pick up 3 Tokyo, 3 Delhi, 3 London; head east

    In London:
    - If there's 10 Tokyo, then layover 3 Delhi and go to Tokyo
    - If there's not, then pick up as many Tokyo as possible, layover any Delhi as needed (avg: 3-4 new Tokyo passengers)

    In Delhi:
    - Pick up Tokyo passengers to capacity, continue to Tokyo for 25% bonus
    - If you still can't get 10 Tokyo, then drop off ALL Tokyo and pick up NYC, London, and Delhi people; head west

    Next time a plane heads east along this route, you're almost certainly going to get all the original fliers to their destinations with the 25% bonus.

    If your route is LA to Toyko, upgrade NYC and Delhi airports first, because those are your most important layover slots.
     
  11. Pezmage

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    Interesting...I'd like to crunch numbers on this but that's way more math and number-finding that I want to do on a Friday evening.
     
  12. Pocketplanegod97

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    So I am currently running L.A. to Tokyo. I have a Pearjet-P and C on both sides feeding L.A. with Tokyo and vise-versa. Honolulu feeding L.A. and Bejing/Shanghai feeding Tokyo. My four main planes transporting these goods are 2 Aeroeagles-P and 2 Aeroeagles-C a Aeroeagles-P and a Aeroeagles-C on each side transporting these goods. The cities I stop at going to and from is L.A., New York, London, Tehran, Bejing/Shanghai and Tokyo. My main problem is that I don't have enough layover jobs going to Tokyo, it takes me for ever to reload and I was wondering is there another feeder city I can buy that can help me get Tokyo layover jobs to L.A.
    My second problem is having to many layovers in Tokyo, do you think it's a good idea to upgrade the airport? I only have 200k, started with 39k this morning so that's good :D, but I still have a lot less money :/
    Thank you for who ever answered these questions, the reason I use Aeroeagles as the transporters is because I am level 19, just 1 more level to get Fogbuster :D
     
  13. tofubean

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    Looking at this thread, I realise I'm not very efficient. As long as there's profit and i'm not making a big loss, i let all my planes fly with or without 25%. Hopefully it can pick up enough passengers for 25% somewhere along the way, if not I just head them to the final destination anyway. Mostly i look for the bux cargoes and passengers. No bux then it's normal coins.

    Does anyone know what's the maximum bux one can have? Wondering if i should keep accumulating or exchange them soon.
     
  14. Pezmage

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    #4374 Pezmage, Jul 7, 2012
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    Ok I lied, I went ahead and crunched a whole bunch of numbers using TheRustySnowman's calculator and numbers I got from in game. Hopefully this will be readable on the forum, it looked real nice on my speadsheet.

    The route I'm using is L.A. ---> N.Y. ---> London ---> Tehran ---> Beijing

    All numbers take into account Level 3 weight reduction and no other bonuses.

    So we're going to put the feeder (Aeros feeding Seqs) against the non-feeder (Seqs just legging it on their own)

    For the feeder the numbers are simple. It takes two trips with the Aero from L.A. to NY to get 12 bitizens to fill the Seq. It costs an Aero 961 coins to go from L.A. to N.Y., I'm going to assume you get at least a half-full Aero for the return trip to negate the fly-back cost, in a perfect world you'd make money on the fly back cost to negate the 961 cost.

    So just figuring you break even on the fly back, it's going to cost a total of 1922 coins to get your bitizens to the layover hub. This cost is going to just be subtracted from the end.

    A bitizen will pay 1819 coins to go from L.A. to Beijing, if you have 10 bitizens from L.A. to Shanghai you have 18190 coins, times the 25% bonus comes to 22737.5.

    It costs a Seq 5923 coins to make the trip from New York to Shanghai, we're going to add in the Aero feeder cost of 1922 for a total cost of 7845 to get those Bits from L.A. to N.Y.

    Total Paid : 22727.5
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    Total Cost: 7845

    Total profit : 14882 using feeders.

    Ok now using the non-feeder way is kind of wonky because you don't know what you're going to have at any leg of the trip, I'm just guessing what you'll get when you land for these numbers.

    So I'm going to put the numbers of guys and the coins they pay at each leg, it's going to be a lot of numbers so hopefully it makes sense.

    Starting at L.A. my Seq has:

    3 to NY at 394 a bit for 1182
    2 to London at 951 each
    3 to Tehran at 1321 each
    2 to Bejing at 1819 each

    It costs 1387 to go from L.A. to N.Y. which puts me at a net loss of 205 coins for the first leg.

    At N.Y. my Seq drops off the N.Y. bits and picks some other guys up and now has:

    2 to London at 951 each for 1902
    2 new for London at 607 each for 1214
    3 to Tehran at 1321 each
    1 to Beijing at 1819 each
    2 new to Beijing at 1418 each

    My gains at this leg are 1902 + 1214 for 3116.
    It costs 2242 to make this leg, so my profit on this leg is 1902, lets take away the 205 coins I lost on the last leg for a current trip profit of 1697.

    In London my Seq now has:
    3 to Tehran at 1321 each for 3963
    2 to Beijing at 1819 each
    1 to Beijing at 1418 each
    4 to Beijing at 943 each

    My gains for this leg are 3963
    It costs 1673 to fly from London to Tehran so my profit on this leg is 2290, plus my profit from the last leg puts me at a current trip profit of 3987.

    In Tehran my Seq wraps up and fills with Beijings for:
    2 to Beijing at 1819 each for 3638
    1 to Beijing at 1418 for 1418
    4 to Beijing at 942 each for 3768
    4 to Beijing at 548 each for 2192

    So my total income for this leg is going to be 11016. But now we're all Beijing so out total income for this leg with the 25% bonus is 13770.

    It costs 2008 coins to make the trip from Tehran to Beijing for a total profit of 11762 on this leg. Adding the profit from the last leg I get a final trip profit of

    15749

    So in the end you come out 867 coins ahead of the feeder plan, not a huge margin but a bit. You save the headache of having to deal with feeding layovers and I'm not sure which will ping you more often. I think the biggest bonus here is that you don't have to even have feeders in your fleet, you can just have as many Seqs as you can have in the air without making everything go dry. So as far as I'm concerned that's a total legitimate plan.

    The one thing that I didn't put into my calculations is those extra 2 Bitizens that you had left over from the feeding. I would have to discount the feeder cost by some percentage since every 5 trips you wouldn't have to feed.

    On that fifth trip you would make an additional 1922 coins, so if we spread that gain out across those 5 flights we cut the difference between the two methods to 483. Then if you take into account a full Aero heading back from feeding you cut that lead down even more. In the end it seems to be pretty much a wash. I have a strong feeling that a well-watched non-feed would have a higher avg. daily income than a well-watched feeder just because you could have way more big planes in the air at any one time. This is just a snapshot on ONE Seq making the trip, who knows what would happen if you took a full fleet into account, where you had like 10 seqs and feeders vs. 16 seqs alone ( I really think the 16 seqs are going to win, though how do you account for the feeders running short-leg profits while your end points are layover-full). I'm also not accounting for the fact that the vast majority of Feeder flights have a mixture of Bitizens. Some are from L.A., some are from Chicago, some are from N.Y., that drives the total flight profit down. This is a perfect-case scenario with all L.A. to Beijing guys. On the flip side, you might have no Beijing guys to start your non-fed flight...

    The non-feeder method might come out worse at times where you don't get many of your end-point, or might come out far better if you score 10 Beijing guys in L.A., it's random.
     
  15. deadclown

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    Excellent analysis of the method I touted versus feeders. Thanks!

    Since they're so close, a couple other things to factor in (probably just anecdotally):

    In favor of feeding:
    1) Most likely don't need upgrades to range
    2) more flexibility in accommodating various play-styles / schedules
    3) Less problems with layover caps

    In favor of seat-maxing:
    1) Waiting at airports for new jobs. This is something I often do, as a way to ensure the 25% bonus more often, and also to create flexibility a la (2) above
    2) less time spent accidentally loading a plane type you thought was the other AKA overall less time required on the user end
    3) Fewer layover slots left unused mid-route

    I think if you make good decisions about when to hang out on the tarmac for the next job cycle, seat-maxing ends up retaining the overall efficiency lead.
     
  16. Pezmage

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    Plus "seat-maxing" is a much cooler term for a method.
     
  17. Taeles

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    Random progress report :

    Airline Company : Fly by our Taeles!
    Level : 22
    Aircraft in service : 13
    . 2 FogBuster M
    . 5 Pearjet M
    . 5 Mohawk M
    . 1 Sea Knight M

    Los Angeles, Mexico, Chicago are feeding New York. New York runs London <-> Tehran <-> Bangkok <-> Tokyo. I'm lazy so dont have an established network on the tokyo end. Instead I have London, Tehran and Bangkok at level 2. New York and Tokyo are level 3. 20 deliveries away from being done with all the 100 delivery achievements, woot!

    /salutes, wanders off!
     
  18. alphaae

    alphaae New Member

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    Thanks for the heads up I just opened an airport in cape town and port Elizabeth and have been transporting engenieers and that's it we'll we will see if I get the prize tomorrow :) thanks for the help
     
  19. alphaae

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    Just opened an airport in cape town and Elizabeth and have been transporting engenieers for the last couple of hours. Here I come prizes :)
     
  20. EugeneC

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