Universal Plague Inc. - (by Ndemic Creations)

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  1. redpill

    redpill Well-Known Member

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    Does Drug 1/2 impact lethality at all? Or only infectivity? If we're trying to "eat the rich" if you will, maybe we should be going a step further and getting Drug 2 as well.

    Even if successful I could also see us getting stuck with a Madagascar/Phillipines/New Guinea closed port problem.
     
  2. Kayg0000

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    Drug 2 costs a lot and we have to spend 24 points on the 3 devolves.

    My run did have the "dry winds" message, I ignored it. Will try repeating until I get lucky conditions
     
  3. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Blood is pretty safe. It only has a 10% mutation factor but it also gives an amazing 80% infection rate for poor countries. Most hot countries are also poor while neither China nor India are considered poor.
     
  4. redpill

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    What's the reason for devolving those three again?
     
  5. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Drugs have 0 general stats.

    Drug 1 has 30% infection factor to wealthy
    Drug 2 has 70% infection factor to wealthy

    So, Drug does not increase infection rates in other types of countries at all.
     
  6. Celestus87

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    #1466 Celestus87, Mar 7, 2013
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    Well, if you sniff them out, you will find out that they don't actually decrease research time... they actually increase it. -_-

    They do indeed have a research speed decrease factor but it is so small that their severity counters it easily. Also, the minus infection factor in Photophobia is just terrible.

    Photophobia is the worst. I adds to severity, subtracts from infectivity and adds nothing to lethality. Noob trap!
     
  7. redpill

    redpill Well-Known Member

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    In that case, would it be cheaper to get to the lethal symptoms through the other route?
     
  8. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    The other route is far more expensive. I'm convinced that the reason why Insomnia, Fever and Photophobia are so cheap is because you are supposed to devolve them.
     
  9. redpill

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    #1469 redpill, Mar 7, 2013
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    It's still more expensive even when taking into account the 24 DNA it takes to devolve? Would also mean we could pick up Cannibalism which is lethal, but it's expensive.
     
  10. Celestus87

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    Give me a couple of mins. I'll have to do..............






























    ................MATHS!!! O_O
     
  11. redpill

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    Eep, be careful! It could also depend on which side randomly mutates first, which saves you the DNA for the first step.

    Also, I'm assuming that Gene Reshuffle increases research time left by a set amount, it's not a percentage of remaining cure, would everyone agree? Otherwise it would be worth considering getting it earlier if it were a percentage.
     
  12. Celestus87

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    #1472 Celestus87, Mar 7, 2013
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    Left route:

    Insomnia: 0 (cause it randomly mutated)
    Photophobia: 1
    Fever: 5
    Coma: 8
    Psychosis: 13
    Delirium: 12
    Encephalitis: 21

    Total base costs: 60 (+increasing costs)

    Right route:

    Salivation: 0 (same)
    Gastroenteritis: 8
    Polyphagia: 7
    Autophagia: 8
    Canibalism: 20
    Encephalitis: 21

    Total: 64 base costs (+ increasing costs)

    Those being said, the left route has a much better defense mechanism against the cure. The right route only has cannibalism, but it's not even close to being as powerful.
     
  13. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Reshuffle has only a minor effect on future research. It primarily increases the money required to find the cure. It also has a retroactive effect.
     
  14. Kayg0000

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    If we come down the right route do we still have to devolve, ifs not that's another 24 points in its favour.
     
  15. redpill

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    #1475 redpill, Mar 7, 2013
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    Thanks for the analysis, and that does not include the cost of devolving, correct? (24 DNA). Taking into account devolving costs you could afford to get Delerium coming from the right and they would about balance in cost, or am I not adding that right...

    Oh ok didn't realize. In that case the left would definitely be cheaper. I was thinking we didn't have to devolve the right half, but the point is too keep the severity low?

    And in that case I guess it's really important to get lucky and have Insomnia mutate instead of Hyper Salivation, because otherwise you'd have to devolve salivation too, no?
     
  16. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting fact:

    Left route has a base cost of 60 points. It costs 24 points to devolve the three symptoms.

    Concidentally, Genetic Reshuffle 2 costs 24 points in the diseases that have it enabled.

    In addition, the remaining 4 symtoms (Coma, Delirium, Psychosis, Encephalitis) contribute more or less an equal amount of minus research to what GRS2 would.



    Call me crazy, but I think this is part of the secret.
     
  17. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Let me sniff this out...
     
  18. Celestus87

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    Salivation & Polyphagia would need to be devolved. That's a minus 15 points.
     
  19. Celestus87

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    Add Xerophile to the recipe on your next attempt.

    So far:

    On start:
    a) Genetic Mimic
    b) Xerophile
    c) Drug 1
    d) Blood 1

    After random mutation:
    <in progress>
     
  20. redpill

    redpill Well-Known Member

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    I tried getting Cytochrome Surge gene also, started in Canada, made a lot of DNA off orange bubbles. As soon as USA was infected I bought Drug 1/2, Gene Hardening, and Reshuffle 1/2. Got Insomnia at 3.5 billion infected, all the rich countries were red, and despite my early expenses still had 100 DNA to spend thanks to red bubbles and more DNA bubbles. Then went lethal, and still only killed 1.2 billion. Australia started to break down but didn't get anyone else in time.
     

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