Universal Plague Inc. - (by Ndemic Creations)

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  1. Kayg0000

    Kayg0000 Well-Known Member

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    Any country, any genes caveat Base Oxidisation is required because (for me at least) using Redpill's combo of Drug 1, GH, GRS 1 and 2 makes the random mutations (if any) be transmissions.

    So for a quickish game to 100% infect chose China, Genes CS, Aquacyte, Dopamine, Base Oxide and Urbophile.

    For a long game (going for high score), chose Canada, Sweden or Peru, CS (or MH is you don't want to have to pop bubbles), Aqua, Dopa, Base and Blank (remove to give no environment boost, longer game more DNA)
     
  2. Mkesaber

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    NAZG- POTUS revisited

    The more I think about it, POTUS is the only real breadcrumbs I've seen to solve NAZG.

    1. I came across an interesting discovery. In developing POTUS, I noticed a pop-up where the vice-president is elected and NOT Spalin. See pics below. If this is unique to Necroa, it is definitely a breadcrumb and is not an accident.
    2. POTUS requires a specific sequence, of which saliva 1 is part of, similar to the origin achievements, again another breadcrumb.
    3. the fact that this is sequence driven, just like the origin achievements, again makes sense.

    the sequence
    1. a sequence that requires coma (and predecessors) and drug 2, creates POTUS ill.
    2. once POTUS becomes ill, if you do nothing --vice-president is elected, if u evolve delirium -- Spalin elected. a sequence.
    3. once Spalin elected, you need to evolve phsychosis, saliva 1, and cold 2, in that order to get a threat. yet another sequence.
    4. we still need to figure out paralysis equivalent to get nuke.

    Why would the VP election (not Spalin) exist, saliva 1 needed, threat exist, and specific sequences needed, all to meet nothing in the end. This has to mean something. I know Kayg evolved almost everything to get a nuke, but couldn't. I just think it is an exact sequence that is needed, and he didn't get the exact one. Look at steps 1-3, if you deviate from that exact sequence, you don't get the threat. So I think step 4 is the same, an EXACT sequence, we just need to figure it out.

    If the VP election (not Spalin) doesn't exist in any other virus type, then this makes it a definitive breadcrumb in my opinion. If it does exist elsewhere, then disregard everything I just said.
     

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  3. Kayg0000

    Kayg0000 Well-Known Member

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    #2143 Kayg0000, Apr 4, 2013
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    NAZG- POTUS revisited

    The VP selection exists in the immune disease. Try nuking but don't evolve insanity and you will get the VP message.

    Nuking may well be in Necroa (James, in post 1192 said "There are zombie specific nukes as well").

    These messages are not unique to Necroa.
     
  4. Celestus87

    Celestus87 Well-Known Member

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    Or... the nuke threat/trigger could be a post-CR symptom... -_-
     
  5. a19950423

    a19950423 New Member

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    not reALLY,this actually exists before the necroa update. If the POTUS get ill and insanity is not evolved, th vice president will be elected instead of Spalin
     
  6. idealeech

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    seriously though, has the developer commented on this? i mean is NAZG even achievable?
     
  7. Mkesaber

    Mkesaber Well-Known Member

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    If it is not unique, then it's not the breadcrumb we're looking for. Maybe the trigger is post CR, which does nothing for nazg. Nuking does exist in necroa, but post CR. countries will nuke other countries out of fear of zombie populations. I guess POTUS is not the answer. It's the damn saliva1 that got me thinking it could be it.
     
  8. Mkesaber

    Mkesaber Well-Known Member

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    Yes he has. He said it is doable, and he's tested it in the current version we're all playing.
     
  9. idealeech

    idealeech Member

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    good to know... thank you

    lol i swear i've tried 10,000 times
     
  10. VictorT93

    VictorT93 Well-Known Member

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    #2150 VictorT93, Apr 4, 2013
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    "NAZG only possible in Casual mode"

    The significant throwaway comment the developer made was that he didn't think that NAZG was achieve able in Brutal mode. Doesn't that indicate that NAZG is a race against the cure, similar to the insane Bolt achievement in concept?

    There is also confirmation (page 80) that there are "zombie specific nukes (plural) as well" so the nuclear route discussed above may be the way - delirium would seem like the obvious route to go if you can find the right country to press the red button before the cure is complete.
     
  11. Mkesaber

    Mkesaber Well-Known Member

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    #2151 Mkesaber, Apr 4, 2013
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    NAZG theories

    Here is what we know, so people don't waste time trying to implement disproven strategies.

    1. Kill em all – not enough lethality
    2. Take em down – not enough severity to take down governments
    3. Race the cure – disproven, cannot outrace the cure
    4. Hide the virus (evolve symptoms but don’t get noticed) – all symptoms increase severity, as soon as severity increases you’re on the clock and lose.
    5. Go zombie – even if we omit the fact that NAZG says don’t make zombies, once you create them, end result is either humans or zombies survive, no other possible outcome. both won’t accomplish NAZG.
    6. Nuke em – nukes are post CR, POTUS not achievable.
    7. Slow the cure – no combo has created conditions to affect more than a handful of countries
    8. Stop the cure – no proof this exists. Other than nano-virus, nothing in the game allows you to do this.
    9. Origin start - so many options, no one has even come close to sniffing anything yet.

    7,8,9 are only theories not yet disproven
     
  12. Mkesaber

    Mkesaber Well-Known Member

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    #2152 Mkesaber, Apr 4, 2013
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    Speed Top Scores

    Anyone looking to speed race, here are the top scores.

    I hold top scores, unless indicated otherwise.

    Bacteria - 176
    Virus - 177 (tied with redpill)
    Fungus - 85
    Parasite - 210
    Prion - 227
    Nano Virus- 71
    Bio Weapon - 79
    Worm - 149
    Necroa - 232
    Cheat - 82

    All scores are legit under latest game version. If you have a better score, post it and I'll update.
     

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  13. Kayg0000

    Kayg0000 Well-Known Member

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    Fungus and bio both less than 100 days? How?
     
  14. Mkesaber

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    #2154 Mkesaber, Apr 4, 2013
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    Speed Strategies

    they're beatable. all scores legit under latest version.

    Bacteria, Virus, Parasite, Prion - see post 1040 (need to tweak on v1.5.3)

    fungus, bio, nano, cheat
    china
    ATP, native, sympto, mimic, urbo (use patho for fungus and bio)
    1. infect china
    2. evolve all T/A/S except (TOF, coma, int hemo, hemo schock)
    3. save and quit game
    4. restart and wait roughly 1.5b infected then evolve remaining symptoms
    5. just keep replaying until you get victory (5-10 tries due to islands)

    Worm
    Evolve every item below ASAP, no waiting.
    China
    ATP, Native, Trans-stasis, Mimic, extreme
    1. Eggs 2, rat 2, then evolve shitload of transmissions/abilities (no planes or gene shuffles)
    2. Neural breach to enslave (left side route)
    note: order of trojan planes: west africa, argentina, then island of choices.

    Necroa
    Evolve every item below ASAP, no waiting.
    China
    ATP, Suppresion, Dopamine, Mimic, Urbo
    1. Zoo, rat 2, bird 2, bat 1
    2. drug 1, heat 1, cold 1
    3. Evolve from insomnia to anabolic boost + lumbrical hypertrophy, then add peptide surge
    4. Max the horde abilities and send millions to infect resistant countries (pause game to stop the clock when sending hordes, spam countries daily)
     
  15. Kayg0000

    Kayg0000 Well-Known Member

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    #2155 Kayg0000, Apr 4, 2013
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    Got it :)

    Beat you on worm

    ATP Boost, Native Biome, Trans Statis, Mimic, Extreme, China start, Eggs 1, rodent.... more trans/abilities..... collect DNA ..... enslave at 100% infected.
     

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  16. Mkesaber

    Mkesaber Well-Known Member

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    Nice score.u obliterated my record by 23 days!
     
  17. TheEvilRobot

    TheEvilRobot Well-Known Member

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    Great game!

    Really enjoy it!

    I recommend it to everyone.
     
  18. B3NDoX

    B3NDoX Well-Known Member

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    There is a super easy way to cheat. Every time the virus evolves by itself with physical symptoms devolve it and then the will never find the virus and everybody gets infected. Then just evolve it all it once to a death symptom. It's not even hard please remove the ability to devolve diseases that got mutated automatically. I beat hard mode in 1 go.
     
  19. VictorT93

    VictorT93 Well-Known Member

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    No matter what I try, I can't get the "President ill" message to appear.

    1. Evolved drug 1/2 and infect USA, evolve from Insomnia to Coma, wait - nothing!

    2. Evolved drug 1 and infect USA, wait for around 80% infection, evolve from Insomnia to Coma and evolve drug 2, wait - nothing!

    3. Evolved drug 1 and infect USA, wait for 100% infection, evolve from Insomnia to Coma and evolve drug 2, wait - nothing!

    Am I missing something here?
     
  20. Kayg0000

    Kayg0000 Well-Known Member

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    #2160 Kayg0000, Apr 5, 2013
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    Which virus? Necroa costs to devolve and the costs increase, so does Virus. Nano-Virus your up against the clock right from the start so can't simply hide and wait. Bio will go lethal way before 100% infected if you try hiding on brutal mode.

    Just because you find it "easy" doesn't mean others do. Implementing your suggestion removes a perfectly valid method of playing the game (hiding and waiting) one that many like. If you don't like that method don't use it, play differently and use the genes to make it harder for yourself. By all means post suggestions but not ones that would ruin the fun for everyone else by forcing a particular method of play.

    Plague is a good game because it has a variety of methods of play which can be made harder/easier at the players choice. The key being the players choice.
     

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