My reply to the homosexual shooter thread

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  1. starjimstar

    starjimstar Well-Known Member

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    I couldn't find the old one, so I have started a new one.

    The problem with most media is not that it is overtly homophobic (though that does exist.) It is usually a matter of heterosexism; an insidious status quo. It is very important for minority groups to have figures we can relate to. When my partner and I are threatened for holding hands in public, it is painfully clear, just how much we need equal representation; for ourselves, but also to desensitize the straight majority so we may be welcome under the umbrella of 'normal'.
     
  2. THEDeliriumTrigger

    THEDeliriumTrigger Well-Known Member

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    There was a reason it was closed.
     
  3. Brazilian Rider

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    The old one was locked.

    For a reason.
     
  4. starjimstar

    starjimstar Well-Known Member

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    Oh, what happened?
     
  5. THEDeliriumTrigger

    THEDeliriumTrigger Well-Known Member

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    This is a discussion for iPod gaming, not politics.

    Feel free to click the link on my sig and join if you do want a discussion, many members enjoy the debate :) But make sure to post in the politics thread
     
  6. touchy

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    I support you, but unfortunately there is a lot of apparent ignorance on the board. Apple is known as a very gay-friendly co. it's the customers who may not be. I'd rather see a game that had all types of people, inclusive. What is a gay shooter, really.
     
  7. Monopoly

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    I hate people like you who try to shove your bias beliefs down my throat. If you want your opinions heard go vote for a pussy (Liberal) in '12, and someone will coddle your naive rants about society.
     
  8. spiffyone

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    I wanted to chime in on that topic, but it was closed (and, honestly, it well should have been).

    Some posters were making statements that definitely veered into homophobic.

    That said, this post isn't about them.

    Something that a few posters stated caught my eye though:

    The idea that if a character in the game is gay, it's okay, just as long as the game itself is not about homosexuality. "Games shouldn't be centered on sexuality" or, in this case, homosexuality.

    But...I thought video games were a valid medium of artistic expression? And, if so...why can't games be centered around or focused on the character's homosexuality? Tons of novels, movies, plays, hell, even art exhibitions (sculpture, painting, photography) are geared toward individual expressions of homosexuality, the internal and external conflicts arising from such feelings (or, rather, such lives), etc.

    Is that not a valid topic for the game medium?

    Or is it that the medium itself has not matured enough as an artform for such topics to be valid, or, rather, expressed in a way that does not seem juvenile?

    The closest to a "homosexual" game we have are some obscure JP games, and those focus on plastering overtly homosexual erotica over simple arcade offerings. Then again, how does one go about creating an expression of the internal and external conflicts in a medium that has yet to truly grasp what makes it unique above other mediums (interactivity) and instead grabs onto elements that work in other mediums but really do not in this one due to going against the very strength of the medium (as developers often fall back on the "easy" way out of telling story through non-interactive, and IMHO very badly written, "cinematic" cutscenes). The medium itself hasn't developed a mature enough language to convey even the most trite and non-complex stories, so how can we expect it to convey right now such a deep issue as sexual orientation without it "getting in the way"?

    Perhaps a medium that hasn't even had it's Citizen Kane, or even, really, it's Man with a Movie Camera is much too young to have its Brokeback Mountain.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  9. GatorDeb

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    Why did you have to post something like this :(
     
  10. THEDeliriumTrigger

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    Im sorry to say it, but you just acted out what you were preaching against.

    This thread is going nowhere- reported.
     
  11. Monopoly

    Monopoly Well-Known Member

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    Im drunk :(
     
  12. spiffyone

    spiffyone Well-Known Member

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    Jeez...way to actually provide evidence to the point he was making :rolleyes:
     
  13. GatorDeb

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    Ah, ok, I can like you again in the morning :D
     
  14. Monopoly

    Monopoly Well-Known Member

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    McCain '12!

    I'd settle for Al Gore though :p
     
  15. spiffyone

    spiffyone Well-Known Member

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    ...

    Are you in the States?

    Seems awfully early to start.

    Ah...

    what the hell...

    I'll join ya

    *tosses back a shot
     
  16. Monopoly

    Monopoly Well-Known Member

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    Spring break for the win :)
     

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