Universal MONSTER HUNTER FREEDOM UNITE (by CAPCOM)

Discussion in 'iPhone and iPad Games' started by nicodemus82, May 8, 2014.

  1. SherlockEB

    SherlockEB Well-Known Member
    Patreon Bronze

    Apr 22, 2013
    459
    0
    0
    #4301 SherlockEB, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
    I always thought GS is better than LS mostly because of the following words of mazereon




     
  2. Vovin

    Vovin 👮 Spam Police 🚓

    Nov 28, 2009
    6,514
    3
    38
    Germany
    #4302 Vovin, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
    I think, what I like most about MH is the fact, that there's nearly no magic in the game. Everything is sort of natural, even the beasts and their abilities.
    Ok, there's talking cats and alchemy, but besides that, everything is based on your skill and tactical thinking. No chance to pull out a mighty fireball spell and roast enemies within seconds. No stupid character classes. Just blademasters and archers or gunners.



    LS has too much advantages to ignore it. And if you know how to fill your spirit gauge quicky, you're dishing out some nice damage. I kill hermitaurs and ceanataurs with a LS quicker than with a hammer. But maybe only because I can handle the LS better than the hammer.
     
  3. Duivs

    Duivs Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2013
    1,762
    0
    0
    Guess what? Classified.
    Classified.
    I'm not saying the 'go into another area and back again' tigrex strategy(?) is cheating, but it is definitely exploiting the game in a way that shouldn't be exploited.

    Monsters use tricks to get the better of you, that's for sure. It's only fair that you do the same. I consider abusing rolling/dodging or backslashes and whatnot 'fair' as they require skill to pull off, however, exploiting the game is not.

    Repeatedly getting tigrex stuck in a wall? That wall was out there for a reason, fair play.
    Being a backslash master? Well done, you're a beast.
    Using sonic bombs to get the edge on a monster? Wise decision.
    Exploiting the game (eg getting diablos stuck on a ledge, cheating, exploiting the separation of areas to get a cheap tigrex kill)? No. Go away. You're ruining the satisfaction of winning a 'fair' fight for yourself.
     
  4. Duivs

    Duivs Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2013
    1,762
    0
    0
    Guess what? Classified.
    Classified.
    On a different note:
    Do you guys use the spirit combo often? I try to use it as soon as I can and, admittedly, often get a bit greedy :p
    Is it better to keep the damage bonus of a full spirit gauge or to deal lots of damage with the combo?
     
  5. Vovin

    Vovin 👮 Spam Police 🚓

    Nov 28, 2009
    6,514
    3
    38
    Germany
    #4305 Vovin, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014

    I think this depends on the situation. But using the damage bonus and pulling off the spirit combo just before it drains down might be the best use sometimes.

    This is what Kanade says:
    Red glow on the spirit gauge offers the highest boost to the Long Sword and what makes it the one of the best DPSing weapon in the game. Once you've obtained Red glow you have 1 minute to make full use of it. Connecting with a spirit finisher will reset the counter so it is possible to maintain the red glow for a whole quest.

    Mentality often gets the best of users and greed sets in resulting in many LSers spamming the spirit attacks to attempt to maintain the red glow's power, often getting hit by the monster during the spirit combos or tripping and disrupting allies. A rule of thumb I always follow is "better to lose the red glow by evading than to lose it by getting hit."


    And again, why shouldn't someone use this strategy I explained when he has real trouble with the Tigrex?
    I neither believe that you're ruining all fun you have with MH.
    And in MH, nearly all fights are unfair from the beginning. The monsters are bigger, better, badder with more damage potential and tons of other nasty stuff and tricks. It's o.k., as long as you win. Winning is, what counts in the end.
    Sure, I prefer a fight without exploits, but to quickly farm Tigrex a few times, this strategy works best. You can still beat him in an "honorable" fight another time.
     
  6. SherlockEB

    SherlockEB Well-Known Member
    Patreon Bronze

    Apr 22, 2013
    459
    0
    0
    #4306 SherlockEB, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
    Greatswords are really amazing on the hands of a skilled hunter.
    YouTube: video
     
  7. Duivs

    Duivs Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2013
    1,762
    0
    0
    Guess what? Classified.
    Classified.
    To use an ancient proverb (probably legit):
    It is not the destination that counts, but the journey...
     
  8. Vovin

    Vovin 👮 Spam Police 🚓

    Nov 28, 2009
    6,514
    3
    38
    Germany
    #4308 Vovin, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014

    Haha, it's all o.k., mate. I gladly agree to disagree. :)

    But I understand where you are coming from, what you're saying.
    MH is a game about skilll and you should win using skill, not dirty exploits. Still, you know, humans are very creative in working around certain things. I love to play games not how the devs want me to play them or supposed to play them, I love to play them sometimes in a "let's try what can I do" or "what's possible"-style. That's much fun, too.
    And that is exactly what I loved about The Stanley Parable or this iOS game with a ball and a road you follow (forgot the name, sorry). These games reward you for being creative, for going different ways.
     
  9. SherlockEB

    SherlockEB Well-Known Member
    Patreon Bronze

    Apr 22, 2013
    459
    0
    0
    #4309 SherlockEB, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014
    Hammer KO's monsters giving you a lot of time to deal damage while you'd have to find a good opening to use your spirit gauge.

    Terra Shogun Hammer Heroics


    I have a hard time believing this one
    Ukanlos Heroics
     
  10. Exact-Psience

    Exact-Psience Well-Known Member

    Jan 12, 2012
    22,664
    3
    38
    The Work-At-Home Guy
    Philippines
    Mazereon was basing it on numbers. Like i said, GS will always hit for more damage on each hit, but doesnt hit as often as LS does.

    GS is widely considered to be very effective against Tigrex, Plesioth, Rathalos or Rathian, but i've only seen the fastest times done by LS. GS is close, but always third after LS, with Hammers always doing things a little bit faster.
     
  11. Vovin

    Vovin 👮 Spam Police 🚓

    Nov 28, 2009
    6,514
    3
    38
    Germany
    #4311 Vovin, Sep 10, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2014

    ^ True so far!

    What Kanade from the MH Forums says:
    "Red glow on the spirit gauge offers the highest boost to the Long Sword and what makes it the one of the best DPSing weapon in the game."
    Sure, it makes less damage in a single hit as a GS, for example, but you can land 3 hits in a second.
    The hammer is still the best in damage output and combo potential.

    Oh, and btw., nobody should dismiss the Hunting Horn as a weak weapon. Sure, it's great to buff other players when hunting together, but by looking at the Ancient Fatalis Lute (great design, btw.), which has the following stats:

    Attack: 1,352
    Attribute: Dragon 380
    Affinity 0%
    Bonus Defense +8

    and if you also consider the half-dozen of high-class buffs, it's quite a nice weapon.
    The Fatalis Menace Lute has even more raw power but lacks in elemental power:

    Attack: 1,456
    Attribute: Dragon 320

    I want these one day! But the materials.... ack, ack...
     
  12. kdavis220

    kdavis220 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    200
    0
    0
    Is it normal for me to be 127+ hours into this game and I'm still no where near great equip? Besides my Devil Slicer, I'm still rocking lowbie Ceanataur Armor and I can't get Union Ore to upgrade my Hammer for my first +1k weapon....
     
  13. cooltea

    cooltea Well-Known Member
    Patreon Bronze

    Jan 19, 2011
    139
    0
    16
    France
    It only depends on what quests you are doing:
    until you get to high rank quests (guild or elder) you won't get the high rank materials required for these equips.
    I'm almost 140h in the game and I'm exactly where you are: upgrading my low-rank armor set, trying to find the best equips I can get from low-rank quests.

    To get to high-rank quests you either need to clear the urgent quests from the elder or to get to HR4 from guild quests.
     
  14. L.Lawliet

    L.Lawliet Well-Known Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    6,405
    420
    83
    I don't think you can be going through this game too slow. You could be going too fast but hunting takes time. Good equips don't just drop from the sky :D
     
  15. Duivs

    Duivs Well-Known Member

    Apr 13, 2013
    1,762
    0
    0
    Guess what? Classified.
    Classified.
    But good hammers DO drop onto monsters' heads!
     
  16. L.Lawliet

    L.Lawliet Well-Known Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    6,405
    420
    83
    [​IMG]

    Me and my bff Rathian looking at the beautiful view in the afternoon
     
  17. Vovin

    Vovin 👮 Spam Police 🚓

    Nov 28, 2009
    6,514
    3
    38
    Germany


    LOL, nice one! :D

    Did you try Tigrex with the strategy?
    And: if you can kill a Rathian, you should be able to kill a Tigrex.
     
  18. kdavis220

    kdavis220 Well-Known Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    200
    0
    0
    Ok, cool. Thanks cooltea and l.lawliet!

    "And: if you can kill a Rathian, you should be able to kill a Tigrex."

    -this made me think of that quote from the movie "Dodgeball"

    "If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball."
     
  19. L.Lawliet

    L.Lawliet Well-Known Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    6,405
    420
    83
    LOL :D:D .............. :eek: :eek: :eek:

    I will... one day... when I get a new pair of pants :cool:

    And what Davis said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZXHsNqkDI4

    That's you throwing the wrench at me.
     
  20. Edmilan

    Edmilan Well-Known Member

    Dec 2, 2011
    1,519
    0
    36
    Philippines
    Beautiful screenie!
     

Share This Page